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Old September 4th, 2004, 09:19 PM
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"Gordon Burditt" wrote in message
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I have been on the simplest low-carb diet for the last year.
I have lost 40 pounds.
I don't count calories. I count carbs.


It strikes me that counting only part of the food you eat is going
to cause problems (or at least not much success at weight loss) for
people who follow the letter but not the spirit of the rules.


Gordon L. Burditt


All I know is that my low carb diet worked for me, with no bad effects. After 1 year;
I went from a size 18 shirt to a 16 1/2.
My waist went for 56 inches to 46.

My HBA1C went from a reading of 10 to 6.3.
My fasting glucose went from 220 to 110.

PJ


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Old September 5th, 2004, 06:12 PM
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1800 is kind of high for women, I'd recommend 1500 calories. How
many miles do you plan to walk daily? "Brisk" is pretty relative...

Cygnus
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Linda Mathes wrote in message ...
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.

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Old September 5th, 2004, 06:12 PM
CygnusX-1
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1800 is kind of high for women, I'd recommend 1500 calories. How
many miles do you plan to walk daily? "Brisk" is pretty relative...

Cygnus
The Bringer of Balance


Linda Mathes wrote in message ...
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.

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Old September 6th, 2004, 06:12 PM
The Voice of Reason
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"Peanutjake" wrote in message ...
I have been on the simplest low-carb diet for the last year.
I have lost 40 pounds.
I don't count calories. I count carbs.
Here is my diet.

No potatoes
No rice
No pasta
No Tropical fruits
No fruit juices
1/2 the bread I used to eat.
Diet sodas
Splenda instead of sugar.
I avoid as much as possible, everything made from wheat.


Seems a lot of nice food to miss out on just to lose weight. If you
count calories rather than carbs you can eat what you want, no
restrictions.
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Old September 6th, 2004, 06:12 PM
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"Peanutjake" wrote in message ...
I have been on the simplest low-carb diet for the last year.
I have lost 40 pounds.
I don't count calories. I count carbs.
Here is my diet.

No potatoes
No rice
No pasta
No Tropical fruits
No fruit juices
1/2 the bread I used to eat.
Diet sodas
Splenda instead of sugar.
I avoid as much as possible, everything made from wheat.


Seems a lot of nice food to miss out on just to lose weight. If you
count calories rather than carbs you can eat what you want, no
restrictions.
  #26  
Old September 6th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Gordon Burditt
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I have been on the simplest low-carb diet for the last year.
I have lost 40 pounds.
I don't count calories. I count carbs.


It strikes me that counting only part of the food you eat is going
to cause problems (or at least not much success at weight loss) for
people who follow the letter but not the spirit of the rules.


Gordon L. Burditt


All I know is that my low carb diet worked for me, with no bad effects.


But you DIDN'T eat ten pounds of turkey a day, did you? You had
enough sense to limit your total intake even if the diet didn't
tell you to. (And I believe some low-carb diets DO tell you there
are limits on things besides carbs.)

There's no such thing as a diet that will work if you are allowed
to eat an unlimited amount of any food, and you actually DO eat
huge amounts of it. There are unwritten rules. If you obey the
unwritten rules (and the written ones), you'll likely have success
with your diet. If you don't, it won't work. And it may be fairly
easy for most people to obey them. But advertising that a diet
allows you to eat "as much as you want" of any food is just false
advertising. (Although it may work fine if you don't really pig
out on "free" foods.) People with normal appetites may have no
trouble staying within the unwritten rules. People with large
weight problems may not have "normal" appetites, and that's why
some of them have a large weight problem in the first place.

As an extreme and ridiculous example, I know of no diet that says
you can't drink some insane amount like 20 gallons of water a day.
Yeah, I know, that's ridiculous, nobody can commit suicide by
drinking too much water (unfortunately not true!). Well, there
have been some incidents with fraternity initiations that at least
put lives in danger, if not actually killed someone. I don't recall
the amount of water that actually sent them to the emergency room.

Low carb diets have a fairly good reputation for being at least
reasonable nutritionally (unlike some faddish single-food diets)
and a good portion of people actually lose weight on them. If it
works for you, great! It's not what my doctor recomments, but he
doesn't claim his recommendation is the only way to lose weight.
I don't object to low-carb diets. I object to the claim that there
are NO limits on protein or specific foods containing mostly protein,
like turkey and chicken. And not all low-carb diets say there are
no limits on such foods.

However, the record of one person losing weight is unconvincing
(even if it's not a lie). I think the weight-loss industry can,
given enough time, produce a success story for just about any diet,
unless it's actually poison. Even then, they might actually be
able to prove weight loss in one subject eating only unleaded
gasoline for 30 days (although they'd probably kill thousands in
the process.)

After 1 year;
I went from a size 18 shirt to a 16 1/2.
My waist went for 56 inches to 46.

My HBA1C went from a reading of 10 to 6.3.
My fasting glucose went from 220 to 110.


This is great progress, especially the HBA1C. Congratulations!

Gordon L. Burditt
  #27  
Old September 6th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Gordon Burditt
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I have been on the simplest low-carb diet for the last year.
I have lost 40 pounds.
I don't count calories. I count carbs.


It strikes me that counting only part of the food you eat is going
to cause problems (or at least not much success at weight loss) for
people who follow the letter but not the spirit of the rules.


Gordon L. Burditt


All I know is that my low carb diet worked for me, with no bad effects.


But you DIDN'T eat ten pounds of turkey a day, did you? You had
enough sense to limit your total intake even if the diet didn't
tell you to. (And I believe some low-carb diets DO tell you there
are limits on things besides carbs.)

There's no such thing as a diet that will work if you are allowed
to eat an unlimited amount of any food, and you actually DO eat
huge amounts of it. There are unwritten rules. If you obey the
unwritten rules (and the written ones), you'll likely have success
with your diet. If you don't, it won't work. And it may be fairly
easy for most people to obey them. But advertising that a diet
allows you to eat "as much as you want" of any food is just false
advertising. (Although it may work fine if you don't really pig
out on "free" foods.) People with normal appetites may have no
trouble staying within the unwritten rules. People with large
weight problems may not have "normal" appetites, and that's why
some of them have a large weight problem in the first place.

As an extreme and ridiculous example, I know of no diet that says
you can't drink some insane amount like 20 gallons of water a day.
Yeah, I know, that's ridiculous, nobody can commit suicide by
drinking too much water (unfortunately not true!). Well, there
have been some incidents with fraternity initiations that at least
put lives in danger, if not actually killed someone. I don't recall
the amount of water that actually sent them to the emergency room.

Low carb diets have a fairly good reputation for being at least
reasonable nutritionally (unlike some faddish single-food diets)
and a good portion of people actually lose weight on them. If it
works for you, great! It's not what my doctor recomments, but he
doesn't claim his recommendation is the only way to lose weight.
I don't object to low-carb diets. I object to the claim that there
are NO limits on protein or specific foods containing mostly protein,
like turkey and chicken. And not all low-carb diets say there are
no limits on such foods.

However, the record of one person losing weight is unconvincing
(even if it's not a lie). I think the weight-loss industry can,
given enough time, produce a success story for just about any diet,
unless it's actually poison. Even then, they might actually be
able to prove weight loss in one subject eating only unleaded
gasoline for 30 days (although they'd probably kill thousands in
the process.)

After 1 year;
I went from a size 18 shirt to a 16 1/2.
My waist went for 56 inches to 46.

My HBA1C went from a reading of 10 to 6.3.
My fasting glucose went from 220 to 110.


This is great progress, especially the HBA1C. Congratulations!

Gordon L. Burditt
  #28  
Old September 6th, 2004, 07:22 PM
Gordon Burditt
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I have been on the simplest low-carb diet for the last year.
I have lost 40 pounds.
I don't count calories. I count carbs.


It strikes me that counting only part of the food you eat is going
to cause problems (or at least not much success at weight loss) for
people who follow the letter but not the spirit of the rules.


Gordon L. Burditt


All I know is that my low carb diet worked for me, with no bad effects.


But you DIDN'T eat ten pounds of turkey a day, did you? You had
enough sense to limit your total intake even if the diet didn't
tell you to. (And I believe some low-carb diets DO tell you there
are limits on things besides carbs.)

There's no such thing as a diet that will work if you are allowed
to eat an unlimited amount of any food, and you actually DO eat
huge amounts of it. There are unwritten rules. If you obey the
unwritten rules (and the written ones), you'll likely have success
with your diet. If you don't, it won't work. And it may be fairly
easy for most people to obey them. But advertising that a diet
allows you to eat "as much as you want" of any food is just false
advertising. (Although it may work fine if you don't really pig
out on "free" foods.) People with normal appetites may have no
trouble staying within the unwritten rules. People with large
weight problems may not have "normal" appetites, and that's why
some of them have a large weight problem in the first place.

As an extreme and ridiculous example, I know of no diet that says
you can't drink some insane amount like 20 gallons of water a day.
Yeah, I know, that's ridiculous, nobody can commit suicide by
drinking too much water (unfortunately not true!). Well, there
have been some incidents with fraternity initiations that at least
put lives in danger, if not actually killed someone. I don't recall
the amount of water that actually sent them to the emergency room.

Low carb diets have a fairly good reputation for being at least
reasonable nutritionally (unlike some faddish single-food diets)
and a good portion of people actually lose weight on them. If it
works for you, great! It's not what my doctor recomments, but he
doesn't claim his recommendation is the only way to lose weight.
I don't object to low-carb diets. I object to the claim that there
are NO limits on protein or specific foods containing mostly protein,
like turkey and chicken. And not all low-carb diets say there are
no limits on such foods.

However, the record of one person losing weight is unconvincing
(even if it's not a lie). I think the weight-loss industry can,
given enough time, produce a success story for just about any diet,
unless it's actually poison. Even then, they might actually be
able to prove weight loss in one subject eating only unleaded
gasoline for 30 days (although they'd probably kill thousands in
the process.)

After 1 year;
I went from a size 18 shirt to a 16 1/2.
My waist went for 56 inches to 46.

My HBA1C went from a reading of 10 to 6.3.
My fasting glucose went from 220 to 110.


This is great progress, especially the HBA1C. Congratulations!

Gordon L. Burditt
  #29  
Old September 10th, 2004, 05:40 AM
Neil Williams
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"Linda Mathes" wrote in message
...
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


Why don't you just reduce your portion size by 1/3, cut
out junk food, and add weight-training to the exercise
routine? Caloric intake is so personal using charts seems
like a crap shoot (and that chart looks really high, too).

--Neil


  #30  
Old September 10th, 2004, 05:40 AM
Neil Williams
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"Linda Mathes" wrote in message
...
I am starting my diet today (September 1st) and would like to
know if the chart below is somewhat correct. I used this
formula many years ago but my memory isn't the best. Are
the numbers in the left column correct? If not, could you
please correct them and repost? Sorry if this is off topic.

Linda


1200-1800 calories per day = Lose weight
2100-2600 calories per day = Maintain weight
2800- +++ calories per day = Gain weight.

I'll be on the 1,800 calories per day diet. I'll also be
walking briskly for 30 minutes a day. Thanks for all input.


Why don't you just reduce your portion size by 1/3, cut
out junk food, and add weight-training to the exercise
routine? Caloric intake is so personal using charts seems
like a crap shoot (and that chart looks really high, too).

--Neil


 




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