muesli and protein

Reading the protein thread got me thinking about folk saying muesli for
breakfast isnt good on its own and should add some protein to make it
better.

Reading the label for my muesli - 'alpen no added sugar' - it gives
approx 11 gram of protein for 100 grams of muesli which is how much I
have + milk so isnt that enough? ... It is certainly working for me and
I dont crave food during the mornings.

My lunch time sandwiches are usually of tuna/sweetcorn or tuna/salad
types or if no tuna or salmon available I go for the roasted chicked
sandwiches so I get protein there too and also on my evening meal.

Anyway, I havent re-weighed yet after my first weigh in last week but
plan to re-weigh on fri morning to get my first reading on how its
going. Since last thursday I have pretty much stuck to 3 meals per day
with a snack or two most days and been fairly close to my planned 500 /
800 / 1200 calories per meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner) giving me approx
2500 for each day so will find out on friday how im doing weight wise.
Im also taking a complete multivitamin tablet with breakfast every
morning to cover anything my diet doesnt bring to the table yet.

Weight aside im certainly feeling better generally although that may
just be initial pride at being able to stick to it so far (small
achievement for some, major achievement for me).

Exercise has been lacking, I meant to get swimming but havent although I
have had a number of days at work where I have had to move around a lot
and do a lot of carrying, lifting, etc (I work in IT setting up networks
and maintaning a region of lots of computers and some of this kit is
heavy to say the least!) so ive probably had a fair amount of exercise
from that but I still want to do proper structured so will push myself
to get the baths.

Im shutting up now!

350/350/210

The issue is that your body cannot manufacture 8 of the amino acids you need
for good health. You have to get them from food. No plant food contains
all 8 of these amino acids. You have to mix whole grains with nuts
(almonds, pecans) and legumes (beans, peas, peanuts) to get them. You don't
have to mix them at the same meal, according to clinical studies. You just
have to get them sometime during the day. Any animal food provides all the
amino acids your body needs, both the ones you can manufacture and the ones
you can't.

The other issue is that animal food is the only natural source of
cyanocobalamin. You need this to prevent pernicious anemia.

Finally, the human body does not absorb the iron in plant foods as well as
it absorbs the iron in plant foods. The iron is bound into different
chemicals and the human body metabolizes the animal chemical better than the
plant chemical. So even fish is a better source of iron than spinach or
beans.

If this is really how you are eating, you need a wider variety of plant
foods in your diet because one thing meat is not good for is fiber.


"jas" wrote in message
. ..
Reading the protein thread got me thinking about folk saying muesli for
breakfast isnt good on its own and should add some protein to make it
better.

Reading the label for my muesli - 'alpen no added sugar' - it gives
approx 11 gram of protein for 100 grams of muesli which is how much I
have + milk so isnt that enough? ... It is certainly working for me and
I dont crave food during the mornings.

My lunch time sandwiches are usually of tuna/sweetcorn or tuna/salad
types or if no tuna or salmon available I go for the roasted chicked
sandwiches so I get protein there too and also on my evening meal.

Anyway, I havent re-weighed yet after my first weigh in last week but
plan to re-weigh on fri morning to get my first reading on how its
going. Since last thursday I have pretty much stuck to 3 meals per day
with a snack or two most days and been fairly close to my planned 500 /
800 / 1200 calories per meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner) giving me approx
2500 for each day so will find out on friday how im doing weight wise.
Im also taking a complete multivitamin tablet with breakfast every
morning to cover anything my diet doesnt bring to the table yet.

Weight aside im certainly feeling better generally although that may
just be initial pride at being able to stick to it so far (small
achievement for some, major achievement for me).

Exercise has been lacking, I meant to get swimming but havent although I
have had a number of days at work where I have had to move around a lot
and do a lot of carrying, lifting, etc (I work in IT setting up networks
and maintaning a region of lots of computers and some of this kit is
heavy to say the least!) so ive probably had a fair amount of exercise
from that but I still want to do proper structured so will push myself
to get the baths.

Im shutting up now!

350/350/210

The issue is that your body cannot manufacture 8 of the amino acids you need
for good health. You have to get them from food. No plant food contains
all 8 of these amino acids. You have to mix whole grains with nuts
(almonds, pecans) and legumes (beans, peas, peanuts) to get them. You don't
have to mix them at the same meal, according to clinical studies. You just
have to get them sometime during the day. Any animal food provides all the
amino acids your body needs, both the ones you can manufacture and the ones
you can't.

The other issue is that animal food is the only natural source of
cyanocobalamin. You need this to prevent pernicious anemia.

Finally, the human body does not absorb the iron in plant foods as well as
it absorbs the iron in plant foods. The iron is bound into different
chemicals and the human body metabolizes the animal chemical better than the
plant chemical. So even fish is a better source of iron than spinach or
beans.

If this is really how you are eating, you need a wider variety of plant
foods in your diet because one thing meat is not good for is fiber.


"jas" wrote in message
. ..
Reading the protein thread got me thinking about folk saying muesli for
breakfast isnt good on its own and should add some protein to make it
better.

Reading the label for my muesli - 'alpen no added sugar' - it gives
approx 11 gram of protein for 100 grams of muesli which is how much I
have + milk so isnt that enough? ... It is certainly working for me and
I dont crave food during the mornings.

My lunch time sandwiches are usually of tuna/sweetcorn or tuna/salad
types or if no tuna or salmon available I go for the roasted chicked
sandwiches so I get protein there too and also on my evening meal.

Anyway, I havent re-weighed yet after my first weigh in last week but
plan to re-weigh on fri morning to get my first reading on how its
going. Since last thursday I have pretty much stuck to 3 meals per day
with a snack or two most days and been fairly close to my planned 500 /
800 / 1200 calories per meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner) giving me approx
2500 for each day so will find out on friday how im doing weight wise.
Im also taking a complete multivitamin tablet with breakfast every
morning to cover anything my diet doesnt bring to the table yet.

Weight aside im certainly feeling better generally although that may
just be initial pride at being able to stick to it so far (small
achievement for some, major achievement for me).

Exercise has been lacking, I meant to get swimming but havent although I
have had a number of days at work where I have had to move around a lot
and do a lot of carrying, lifting, etc (I work in IT setting up networks
and maintaning a region of lots of computers and some of this kit is
heavy to say the least!) so ive probably had a fair amount of exercise
from that but I still want to do proper structured so will push myself
to get the baths.

Im shutting up now!

350/350/210

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 11:00:06 +0100, jas wrote:

Reading the label for my muesli - 'alpen no added sugar' - it gives
approx 11 gram of protein for 100 grams of muesli which is how much I
have + milk so isnt that enough? ... It is certainly working for me and
I dont crave food during the mornings.

My lunch time sandwiches are usually of tuna/sweetcorn or tuna/salad
types or if no tuna or salmon available I go for the roasted chicked
sandwiches so I get protein there too and also on my evening meal.

It sounds like you're getting plenty of protein. I think your
breakfast sounds fine; your cereal has more protein than most.

Anyway, I havent re-weighed yet after my first weigh in last week but
plan to re-weigh on fri morning to get my first reading on how its
going.

It sounds like you're doing well. I'm eager to hear how the weigh-in
goes!

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 11:00:06 +0100, jas wrote:

Reading the label for my muesli - 'alpen no added sugar' - it gives
approx 11 gram of protein for 100 grams of muesli which is how much I
have + milk so isnt that enough? ... It is certainly working for me and
I dont crave food during the mornings.

My lunch time sandwiches are usually of tuna/sweetcorn or tuna/salad
types or if no tuna or salmon available I go for the roasted chicked
sandwiches so I get protein there too and also on my evening meal.

It sounds like you're getting plenty of protein. I think your
breakfast sounds fine; your cereal has more protein than most.

Anyway, I havent re-weighed yet after my first weigh in last week but
plan to re-weigh on fri morning to get my first reading on how its
going.

It sounds like you're doing well. I'm eager to hear how the weigh-in
goes!

Chris
262/139/ (145-150)

In article ,
says...
If this is really how you are eating, you need a wider variety of plant
foods in your diet because one thing meat is not good for is fiber.


Since last week I started eating plenty of vegetables with my evening
meals and sometimes my lunch sandwich is a salad one too.

With the evening meal whereas I may have had lots of roast potatoes
(made with fat) i now have boiled pototoes and much less of them and
much more vegetables - the veg is always steam cooked.

It varies but I generally have 2 or 3 of the following with an evening
meal and much more of them now and much less of the pototoes:-

Carrots
Peas
Sprouts
Coliflower
Cabbage
Brocolli

350/350/210

In article ,
says...
If this is really how you are eating, you need a wider variety of plant
foods in your diet because one thing meat is not good for is fiber.


Since last week I started eating plenty of vegetables with my evening
meals and sometimes my lunch sandwich is a salad one too.

With the evening meal whereas I may have had lots of roast potatoes
(made with fat) i now have boiled pototoes and much less of them and
much more vegetables - the veg is always steam cooked.

It varies but I generally have 2 or 3 of the following with an evening
meal and much more of them now and much less of the pototoes:-

Carrots
Peas
Sprouts
Coliflower
Cabbage
Brocolli

350/350/210

You're doing great, jas. I wouldn't worry about the protein as it looks as
if you're doing just fine. The muesli has more protein than most cereals.

Beverly


"jas" wrote in message
. ..
Reading the protein thread got me thinking about folk saying muesli for
breakfast isnt good on its own and should add some protein to make it
better.

Reading the label for my muesli - 'alpen no added sugar' - it gives
approx 11 gram of protein for 100 grams of muesli which is how much I
have + milk so isnt that enough? ... It is certainly working for me and
I dont crave food during the mornings.

My lunch time sandwiches are usually of tuna/sweetcorn or tuna/salad
types or if no tuna or salmon available I go for the roasted chicked
sandwiches so I get protein there too and also on my evening meal.

Anyway, I havent re-weighed yet after my first weigh in last week but
plan to re-weigh on fri morning to get my first reading on how its
going. Since last thursday I have pretty much stuck to 3 meals per day
with a snack or two most days and been fairly close to my planned 500 /
800 / 1200 calories per meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner) giving me approx
2500 for each day so will find out on friday how im doing weight wise.
Im also taking a complete multivitamin tablet with breakfast every
morning to cover anything my diet doesnt bring to the table yet.

Weight aside im certainly feeling better generally although that may
just be initial pride at being able to stick to it so far (small
achievement for some, major achievement for me).

Exercise has been lacking, I meant to get swimming but havent although I
have had a number of days at work where I have had to move around a lot
and do a lot of carrying, lifting, etc (I work in IT setting up networks
and maintaning a region of lots of computers and some of this kit is
heavy to say the least!) so ive probably had a fair amount of exercise
from that but I still want to do proper structured so will push myself
to get the baths.

Im shutting up now!

350/350/210

You're doing great, jas. I wouldn't worry about the protein as it looks as
if you're doing just fine. The muesli has more protein than most cereals.

Beverly


"jas" wrote in message
. ..
Reading the protein thread got me thinking about folk saying muesli for
breakfast isnt good on its own and should add some protein to make it
better.

Reading the label for my muesli - 'alpen no added sugar' - it gives
approx 11 gram of protein for 100 grams of muesli which is how much I
have + milk so isnt that enough? ... It is certainly working for me and
I dont crave food during the mornings.

My lunch time sandwiches are usually of tuna/sweetcorn or tuna/salad
types or if no tuna or salmon available I go for the roasted chicked
sandwiches so I get protein there too and also on my evening meal.

Anyway, I havent re-weighed yet after my first weigh in last week but
plan to re-weigh on fri morning to get my first reading on how its
going. Since last thursday I have pretty much stuck to 3 meals per day
with a snack or two most days and been fairly close to my planned 500 /
800 / 1200 calories per meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner) giving me approx
2500 for each day so will find out on friday how im doing weight wise.
Im also taking a complete multivitamin tablet with breakfast every
morning to cover anything my diet doesnt bring to the table yet.

Weight aside im certainly feeling better generally although that may
just be initial pride at being able to stick to it so far (small
achievement for some, major achievement for me).

Exercise has been lacking, I meant to get swimming but havent although I
have had a number of days at work where I have had to move around a lot
and do a lot of carrying, lifting, etc (I work in IT setting up networks
and maintaning a region of lots of computers and some of this kit is
heavy to say the least!) so ive probably had a fair amount of exercise
from that but I still want to do proper structured so will push myself
to get the baths.

Im shutting up now!

350/350/210

"jas" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
If this is really how you are eating, you need a wider variety of plant
foods in your diet because one thing meat is not good for is fiber.


Since last week I started eating plenty of vegetables with my evening
meals and sometimes my lunch sandwich is a salad one too.

With the evening meal whereas I may have had lots of roast potatoes
(made with fat) i now have boiled pototoes and much less of them and
much more vegetables - the veg is always steam cooked.

It varies but I generally have 2 or 3 of the following with an evening
meal and much more of them now and much less of the pototoes:-

Carrots
Peas
Sprouts
Coliflower
Cabbage
Brocolli

350/350/210

Good choices. Just keep making these types of changes and you'll be fine.

Beverly