Ak, final SWWC, Maintenance wrong way !

You settled for a new pair of running shoes. I got a new laptop! (G)

I have equated my feelings about my "new look" with getting a new high
tech toy (a guy thing??) and so complemented it with a new high tech
toy.

I actually took an 8 week yoga course just as I started WW last Oct.
But that ended and the times for a new session were not good -
conflicted with the WW meeting, actually. I should check again.

Hey, pecan pie is permitted - just in the right quantities. But I got
nectarines just yesterday - perfect afternoon snack.

Seattle proper has very few of the critters in town. The mountains
are another story but they are gone for this season.

As for freeze - today almost feels like it - chilly and foggy this
morning and I can see that I will be exploiting that "clothing
cushion" real soon. I feel the shorts today are adding to the chill.
I saw one of the camping store catalogs had those zip-off pants - the
lower legs zip off (in case your imagination got the better of you!
(g))

We are running warmer than normal most days. The mountains are still
bone dry and there are small fires contributing smoke to many hiking
areas.

Hoping to be down a bit at today's WI......

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:29:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yes. Keeping it hung. And a reward is a new pair of running shoes, or even
a new bandana, or a CD or a tree ripe out of season peach, not PEcaN Pie !
and relaxation is Yoga, or a good book.... If not for west nile virus I
could probably lose a few pounds this week by going into my back yard and
donating blood to the millions of mosquitoes. We had all that rain......

I have a mean friend in South Carolina who said, "Oh, the first freeze will
kill them all".... It did not freeze ONE TIME all last winter.....

So we have this little cool front here that brought us some unseasonably
cool weather (mid 80's) and we cannot even step outside without bombing the
area, and I am Allergic to the bomb stuff. WHINE!!!!!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I think I have the hang of Maintenance. I just need permanent glue to
keep it HUNG!

But a thought just also occurred to me - the one we have always known
but maybe subconsciously ignored. IT AIN'T OVER - that is this is the
way it is - it is our way of life and way of eating. Relaxing means
sitting in an easy chair but not eating anything I want.

As for Winter - maybe I should not have installed the new windows -
they are intended to keep me warmer but that may mean burning less
calories (G)

Fred

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:07:32 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Very good point about last winter, Checking my graph, I can see that
there
was really no real difference between my average loss, winter or summer,
once I got past that first major drop. And shorter days don't slow me
down,
the reverse really because we can do a lot of outdoor things that are
torture in the summer here. And of course where you are, really cold
weather burns calories keeping yourself warm . I am sure we can do it
too. We just need to hang in. I hated maintenance the first couple of
weeks, felt like I was just lost or something. I am getting into it now.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I have a feeling that it is a natural tendency to maintain warmth (and
living in Texas probably does not overcome centuries of genetics)
through sufficient "stores!" Also, the weather up here and the
shortened daylight means less activity.

BUT - go back to your charts or mine - we did it last winter - that is
lost weight. So we should be able to, at least, hold it steady if we
find the correct point formula and keep vigilant to see what our
bodies really need. I know you can do it and I can also do it - we
just have to set our minds to do it.

I think the ordinary weeks between now and THEN (next week, next month
and even two years from now and this holiday season) can be controlled
and as long as we don't flip out totally, we can have a good time in
the season of holiday excess without blowing it badly.

I'm with you. I have joined nyny and may have Amberle change my goal
to 160 rather than the 164 of the top WW number.

Fred

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:45:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Fred I have a friend who thinks that winter causes one to tend to want
to
put on a few pounds. If that is so, we will have to be extra
vigilant.
Lets make a pact .. us maintainers .. to hang in there and start the
new
year at or below goal. This is the Real deal for me. I have lost
weight
countless times, this maintaining thing is a new world. Finding the
motivation to stand in one spot is not so easy for me, ADHD critter
that
I
am.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I actually have been weighing in each week altho, with the last two
months, between vacations and travel to me dad and then nyc, that
has
been about every two to 3 weeks. I also do not want to push the
limits as that might throw me off clearly Maintaining.

I would also like to hit 155 but don't seem to be able to drop it at
this point. And Winter makes it even more unlikely. But if I can
stick with 158-161, I'll be pretty content.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:52:43 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

haha, weight too long. I am sure that I am going to go for the
first
Satrurday each month. Heck, the reason I got here was to have that
motivation to stay here. I have really used the scale daily also
to
be
sure
that there is not an up trend going on. I don't have any problem
with
eating my target points for a few days until any pesky pound goes
off.
I
am
having a problem motivating myself to go down another 5 tho.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Ah, but you may decide to "weight" too long. I go for the first
WI
day of the month if I think I will make it! (G)

But it is amazing if you manage the first WI very early in the
month,
you really have almost TWO months till the next WI (the last of
the
next month). That can either be an advantage or
disadvantage..........

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:45:49 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I am glad we have a bit of flexibility about when we weigh in.
Down
here
Every month has at least one warm Saturday

"SuzyQ" wrote in message
...
I can certainly see your point Lesanne, also even in Texas we
may
not
want
to WI in shorts, t-shirt and sandals in the winter. :-)
--
SuzyQ
Weight 124
WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

"Lesanne" wrote in message
ink.net...
I do want to be more than .4 under my goal though, just in
case.
This
is
a
great time for me to watch my average weight chart though.
It
had
me
losing
a fraction this week. Their scale is much flakier than mine
as
a
general
rule, which is why I need a little space in there. No
telling
when
theirs
might be wieghing 3 or 4 heavy and if I am right at goal, I
would
have
to
pay. Paying is Bad. Free is Good. Considering where I
started,
I
love
my
weight where it is now, but I do need a little safety net.


"SuzyQ" wrote in message
...
Ah .6 is still close enough for maintainers :-)
--
SuzyQ
Weight 124
WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

"Lesanne" wrote in message

link.net...
Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5 from
my
top
of
range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know Why,
I
ate
every
point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too
much....
So
I
shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164

Zip off. Oh my ... So what were you saying?

"Fred" wrote in message
...
You settled for a new pair of running shoes. I got a new laptop! (G)

I have equated my feelings about my "new look" with getting a new high
tech toy (a guy thing??) and so complemented it with a new high tech
toy.

I actually took an 8 week yoga course just as I started WW last Oct.
But that ended and the times for a new session were not good -
conflicted with the WW meeting, actually. I should check again.

Hey, pecan pie is permitted - just in the right quantities. But I got
nectarines just yesterday - perfect afternoon snack.

Seattle proper has very few of the critters in town. The mountains
are another story but they are gone for this season.

As for freeze - today almost feels like it - chilly and foggy this
morning and I can see that I will be exploiting that "clothing
cushion" real soon. I feel the shorts today are adding to the chill.
I saw one of the camping store catalogs had those zip-off pants - the
lower legs zip off (in case your imagination got the better of you!
(g))

We are running warmer than normal most days. The mountains are still
bone dry and there are small fires contributing smoke to many hiking
areas.

Hoping to be down a bit at today's WI......

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:29:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yes. Keeping it hung. And a reward is a new pair of running shoes, or
even
a new bandana, or a CD or a tree ripe out of season peach, not PEcaN Pie
!
and relaxation is Yoga, or a good book.... If not for west nile virus I
could probably lose a few pounds this week by going into my back yard and
donating blood to the millions of mosquitoes. We had all that rain......

I have a mean friend in South Carolina who said, "Oh, the first freeze
will
kill them all".... It did not freeze ONE TIME all last winter.....

So we have this little cool front here that brought us some unseasonably
cool weather (mid 80's) and we cannot even step outside without bombing
the
area, and I am Allergic to the bomb stuff. WHINE!!!!!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I think I have the hang of Maintenance. I just need permanent glue to
keep it HUNG!

But a thought just also occurred to me - the one we have always known
but maybe subconsciously ignored. IT AIN'T OVER - that is this is the
way it is - it is our way of life and way of eating. Relaxing means
sitting in an easy chair but not eating anything I want.

As for Winter - maybe I should not have installed the new windows -
they are intended to keep me warmer but that may mean burning less
calories (G)

Fred

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:07:32 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Very good point about last winter, Checking my graph, I can see that
there
was really no real difference between my average loss, winter or
summer,
once I got past that first major drop. And shorter days don't slow me
down,
the reverse really because we can do a lot of outdoor things that are
torture in the summer here. And of course where you are, really cold
weather burns calories keeping yourself warm . I am sure we can do
it
too. We just need to hang in. I hated maintenance the first couple
of
weeks, felt like I was just lost or something. I am getting into it
now.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I have a feeling that it is a natural tendency to maintain warmth
(and
living in Texas probably does not overcome centuries of genetics)
through sufficient "stores!" Also, the weather up here and the
shortened daylight means less activity.

BUT - go back to your charts or mine - we did it last winter - that
is
lost weight. So we should be able to, at least, hold it steady if
we
find the correct point formula and keep vigilant to see what our
bodies really need. I know you can do it and I can also do it - we
just have to set our minds to do it.

I think the ordinary weeks between now and THEN (next week, next
month
and even two years from now and this holiday season) can be
controlled
and as long as we don't flip out totally, we can have a good time in
the season of holiday excess without blowing it badly.

I'm with you. I have joined nyny and may have Amberle change my
goal
to 160 rather than the 164 of the top WW number.

Fred

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:45:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Fred I have a friend who thinks that winter causes one to tend to
want
to
put on a few pounds. If that is so, we will have to be extra
vigilant.
Lets make a pact .. us maintainers .. to hang in there and start
the
new
year at or below goal. This is the Real deal for me. I have lost
weight
countless times, this maintaining thing is a new world. Finding
the
motivation to stand in one spot is not so easy for me, ADHD critter
that
I
am.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I actually have been weighing in each week altho, with the last
two
months, between vacations and travel to me dad and then nyc, that
has
been about every two to 3 weeks. I also do not want to push the
limits as that might throw me off clearly Maintaining.

I would also like to hit 155 but don't seem to be able to drop it
at
this point. And Winter makes it even more unlikely. But if I
can
stick with 158-161, I'll be pretty content.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:52:43 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

haha, weight too long. I am sure that I am going to go for the
first
Satrurday each month. Heck, the reason I got here was to have
that
motivation to stay here. I have really used the scale daily
also
to
be
sure
that there is not an up trend going on. I don't have any
problem
with
eating my target points for a few days until any pesky pound
goes
off.
I
am
having a problem motivating myself to go down another 5 tho.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Ah, but you may decide to "weight" too long. I go for the
first
WI
day of the month if I think I will make it! (G)

But it is amazing if you manage the first WI very early in the
month,
you really have almost TWO months till the next WI (the last
of
the
next month). That can either be an advantage or
disadvantage..........

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:45:49 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I am glad we have a bit of flexibility about when we weigh
in.
Down
here
Every month has at least one warm Saturday

"SuzyQ" wrote in message
...
I can certainly see your point Lesanne, also even in Texas
we
may
not
want
to WI in shorts, t-shirt and sandals in the winter. :-)
--
SuzyQ
Weight 124
WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

"Lesanne" wrote in message

ink.net...
I do want to be more than .4 under my goal though, just
in
case.
This
is
a
great time for me to watch my average weight chart
though.
It
had
me
losing
a fraction this week. Their scale is much flakier than
mine
as
a
general
rule, which is why I need a little space in there. No
telling
when
theirs
might be wieghing 3 or 4 heavy and if I am right at goal,
I
would
have
to
pay. Paying is Bad. Free is Good. Considering where I
started,
I
love
my
weight where it is now, but I do need a little safety
net.


"SuzyQ" wrote in message
...
Ah .6 is still close enough for maintainers :-)
--
SuzyQ
Weight 124
WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

"Lesanne" wrote in message

link.net...
Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5
from
my
top
of
range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know
Why,
I
ate
every
point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too
much....
So
I
shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164

EXACTLY! (G)

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 16:17:19 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Zip off. Oh my ... So what were you saying?

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
You settled for a new pair of running shoes. I got a new laptop! (G)

I have equated my feelings about my "new look" with getting a new high
tech toy (a guy thing??) and so complemented it with a new high tech
toy.

I actually took an 8 week yoga course just as I started WW last Oct.
But that ended and the times for a new session were not good -
conflicted with the WW meeting, actually. I should check again.

Hey, pecan pie is permitted - just in the right quantities. But I got
nectarines just yesterday - perfect afternoon snack.

Seattle proper has very few of the critters in town. The mountains
are another story but they are gone for this season.

As for freeze - today almost feels like it - chilly and foggy this
morning and I can see that I will be exploiting that "clothing
cushion" real soon. I feel the shorts today are adding to the chill.
I saw one of the camping store catalogs had those zip-off pants - the
lower legs zip off (in case your imagination got the better of you!
(g))

We are running warmer than normal most days. The mountains are still
bone dry and there are small fires contributing smoke to many hiking
areas.

Hoping to be down a bit at today's WI......

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:29:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Yes. Keeping it hung. And a reward is a new pair of running shoes, or
even
a new bandana, or a CD or a tree ripe out of season peach, not PEcaN Pie
!
and relaxation is Yoga, or a good book.... If not for west nile virus I
could probably lose a few pounds this week by going into my back yard and
donating blood to the millions of mosquitoes. We had all that rain......

I have a mean friend in South Carolina who said, "Oh, the first freeze
will
kill them all".... It did not freeze ONE TIME all last winter.....

So we have this little cool front here that brought us some unseasonably
cool weather (mid 80's) and we cannot even step outside without bombing
the
area, and I am Allergic to the bomb stuff. WHINE!!!!!

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I think I have the hang of Maintenance. I just need permanent glue to
keep it HUNG!

But a thought just also occurred to me - the one we have always known
but maybe subconsciously ignored. IT AIN'T OVER - that is this is the
way it is - it is our way of life and way of eating. Relaxing means
sitting in an easy chair but not eating anything I want.

As for Winter - maybe I should not have installed the new windows -
they are intended to keep me warmer but that may mean burning less
calories (G)

Fred

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:07:32 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Very good point about last winter, Checking my graph, I can see that
there
was really no real difference between my average loss, winter or
summer,
once I got past that first major drop. And shorter days don't slow me
down,
the reverse really because we can do a lot of outdoor things that are
torture in the summer here. And of course where you are, really cold
weather burns calories keeping yourself warm . I am sure we can do
it
too. We just need to hang in. I hated maintenance the first couple
of
weeks, felt like I was just lost or something. I am getting into it
now.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I have a feeling that it is a natural tendency to maintain warmth
(and
living in Texas probably does not overcome centuries of genetics)
through sufficient "stores!" Also, the weather up here and the
shortened daylight means less activity.

BUT - go back to your charts or mine - we did it last winter - that
is
lost weight. So we should be able to, at least, hold it steady if
we
find the correct point formula and keep vigilant to see what our
bodies really need. I know you can do it and I can also do it - we
just have to set our minds to do it.

I think the ordinary weeks between now and THEN (next week, next
month
and even two years from now and this holiday season) can be
controlled
and as long as we don't flip out totally, we can have a good time in
the season of holiday excess without blowing it badly.

I'm with you. I have joined nyny and may have Amberle change my
goal
to 160 rather than the 164 of the top WW number.

Fred

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:45:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Fred I have a friend who thinks that winter causes one to tend to
want
to
put on a few pounds. If that is so, we will have to be extra
vigilant.
Lets make a pact .. us maintainers .. to hang in there and start
the
new
year at or below goal. This is the Real deal for me. I have lost
weight
countless times, this maintaining thing is a new world. Finding
the
motivation to stand in one spot is not so easy for me, ADHD critter
that
I
am.


"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
I actually have been weighing in each week altho, with the last
two
months, between vacations and travel to me dad and then nyc, that
has
been about every two to 3 weeks. I also do not want to push the
limits as that might throw me off clearly Maintaining.

I would also like to hit 155 but don't seem to be able to drop it
at
this point. And Winter makes it even more unlikely. But if I
can
stick with 158-161, I'll be pretty content.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:52:43 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

haha, weight too long. I am sure that I am going to go for the
first
Satrurday each month. Heck, the reason I got here was to have
that
motivation to stay here. I have really used the scale daily
also
to
be
sure
that there is not an up trend going on. I don't have any
problem
with
eating my target points for a few days until any pesky pound
goes
off.
I
am
having a problem motivating myself to go down another 5 tho.

"Fred" wrote in message
.. .
Ah, but you may decide to "weight" too long. I go for the
first
WI
day of the month if I think I will make it! (G)

But it is amazing if you manage the first WI very early in the
month,
you really have almost TWO months till the next WI (the last
of
the
next month). That can either be an advantage or
disadvantage..........

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:45:49 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I am glad we have a bit of flexibility about when we weigh
in.
Down
here
Every month has at least one warm Saturday

"SuzyQ" wrote in message
...
I can certainly see your point Lesanne, also even in Texas
we
may
not
want
to WI in shorts, t-shirt and sandals in the winter. :-)
--
SuzyQ
Weight 124
WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

"Lesanne" wrote in message

link.net...
I do want to be more than .4 under my goal though, just
in
case.
This
is
a
great time for me to watch my average weight chart
though.
It
had
me
losing
a fraction this week. Their scale is much flakier than
mine
as
a
general
rule, which is why I need a little space in there. No
telling
when
theirs
might be wieghing 3 or 4 heavy and if I am right at goal,
I
would
have
to
pay. Paying is Bad. Free is Good. Considering where I
started,
I
love
my
weight where it is now, but I do need a little safety
net.


"SuzyQ" wrote in message
...
Ah .6 is still close enough for maintainers :-)
--
SuzyQ
Weight 124
WW Lifetime Membership Feb 03

"Lesanne" wrote in message

link.net...
Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5
from
my
top
of
range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know
Why,
I
ate
every
point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too
much....
So
I
shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164

Oh heck, doesn't really matter how you came to using all those points up ... I
still thank you for doing what scares the beejeezus out of me. grin What can we
blame the higher appetite on? I seem to be going through the same thing this
week. I'm not eating more but I've had to be much more concious of my choices
this week ... seems I've been searching constantly for something to eat. I
honestly can say I've been hungry too ... stomach has been rumbling majorly within
a few hours after eating.

You're right ... the online journal is extremely generous doling out those
activity points. I also use my own estimate ... I'm rather tough on myself.

Joyce


On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:51:59 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

LOL, initiative my hind leg, it was stress from Ma being sick. !! I was
hungry all the time. No more of that, back to using about half the flex
points and my own estimate of activity points instead of the one the online
journal gives me. They gave me more, to say the least.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Thank you for taking the initiative to do this experiment. I have been
too scared
to do it myself, but it does kind of confirm my suspicions ... too many
points on
the flexpoint system for maintainers. I've yet to figure out that
*number* I
need, no matter what I do I stay the same (which I guess is good). I
don't know
if I now have my metabolism totally screwed up from not eating enough.

Regardless, you are doing a fantastic job of maintaining! That's what's
important.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:10:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5 from my top of range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know Why, I ate every point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too much.... So I shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164

You know it is odd. I keep that daily average weight and it showed a small
loss last week despite. This week I have continued to be very hungry, and
if I am That hungry I am going to eat something (just making real healthy
choices). Still eating more points than I was 2 weeks ago, but my scale has
showed a new low this week that is sticking day to day. Go figure.


"Joyce" wrote in message
...
Oh heck, doesn't really matter how you came to using all those points up
.... I
still thank you for doing what scares the beejeezus out of me. grin
What can we
blame the higher appetite on? I seem to be going through the same thing
this
week. I'm not eating more but I've had to be much more concious of my
choices
this week ... seems I've been searching constantly for something to eat.
I
honestly can say I've been hungry too ... stomach has been rumbling
majorly within
a few hours after eating.

You're right ... the online journal is extremely generous doling out those
activity points. I also use my own estimate ... I'm rather tough on
myself.

Joyce


On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:51:59 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

LOL, initiative my hind leg, it was stress from Ma being sick. !! I was
hungry all the time. No more of that, back to using about half the flex
points and my own estimate of activity points instead of the one the
online
journal gives me. They gave me more, to say the least.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Thank you for taking the initiative to do this experiment. I have been
too scared
to do it myself, but it does kind of confirm my suspicions ... too many
points on
the flexpoint system for maintainers. I've yet to figure out that
*number* I
need, no matter what I do I stay the same (which I guess is good). I
don't know
if I now have my metabolism totally screwed up from not eating enough.

Regardless, you are doing a fantastic job of maintaining! That's
what's
important.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:10:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5 from my top of
range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know Why, I ate every
point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too much.... So I
shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164

I've been the same as you, Lesanne. Hungry so I am eating. I am making good
choices overall. For 5 days straight my scale showed an alltime low for me (just
over 131), and did stick there. Stepped up this morning, the day before the
*official* day ... and right back to where I was last week. So I'm thinking ...
maybe the average IS the way to go. Why would 1 or 2 higher weight days be
*truer* than 5 lower and constant weight days? Does it really matter? LOL

Joyce


On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:53:11 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

You know it is odd. I keep that daily average weight and it showed a small
loss last week despite. This week I have continued to be very hungry, and
if I am That hungry I am going to eat something (just making real healthy
choices). Still eating more points than I was 2 weeks ago, but my scale has
showed a new low this week that is sticking day to day. Go figure.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Oh heck, doesn't really matter how you came to using all those points up
... I
still thank you for doing what scares the beejeezus out of me. grin
What can we
blame the higher appetite on? I seem to be going through the same thing
this
week. I'm not eating more but I've had to be much more concious of my
choices
this week ... seems I've been searching constantly for something to eat.
I
honestly can say I've been hungry too ... stomach has been rumbling
majorly within
a few hours after eating.

You're right ... the online journal is extremely generous doling out those
activity points. I also use my own estimate ... I'm rather tough on
myself.

Joyce


On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:51:59 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

LOL, initiative my hind leg, it was stress from Ma being sick. !! I was
hungry all the time. No more of that, back to using about half the flex
points and my own estimate of activity points instead of the one the
online
journal gives me. They gave me more, to say the least.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Thank you for taking the initiative to do this experiment. I have been
too scared
to do it myself, but it does kind of confirm my suspicions ... too many
points on
the flexpoint system for maintainers. I've yet to figure out that
*number* I
need, no matter what I do I stay the same (which I guess is good). I
don't know
if I now have my metabolism totally screwed up from not eating enough.

Regardless, you are doing a fantastic job of maintaining! That's
what's
important.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:10:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5 from my top of
range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know Why, I ate every
point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too much.... So I
shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164

I have been doing that average weight thing for ages. And keeping a total
lost column as well. When I compare the total loss from that method, with
the total official WW loss for the same period, they are about .5 different.
So it obviously is accurate, the WW loss is much more erratic on a graph.
The average loss is almost a straight line, with the occational blip.


"Joyce" wrote in message
...
I've been the same as you, Lesanne. Hungry so I am eating. I am making
good
choices overall. For 5 days straight my scale showed an alltime low for
me (just
over 131), and did stick there. Stepped up this morning, the day before
the
*official* day ... and right back to where I was last week. So I'm
thinking ...
maybe the average IS the way to go. Why would 1 or 2 higher weight days
be
*truer* than 5 lower and constant weight days? Does it really matter?
LOL

Joyce


On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:53:11 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

You know it is odd. I keep that daily average weight and it showed a
small
loss last week despite. This week I have continued to be very hungry,
and
if I am That hungry I am going to eat something (just making real
healthy
choices). Still eating more points than I was 2 weeks ago, but my scale
has
showed a new low this week that is sticking day to day. Go figure.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Oh heck, doesn't really matter how you came to using all those points
up
... I
still thank you for doing what scares the beejeezus out of me. grin
What can we
blame the higher appetite on? I seem to be going through the same
thing
this
week. I'm not eating more but I've had to be much more concious of my
choices
this week ... seems I've been searching constantly for something to
eat.
I
honestly can say I've been hungry too ... stomach has been rumbling
majorly within
a few hours after eating.

You're right ... the online journal is extremely generous doling out
those
activity points. I also use my own estimate ... I'm rather tough on
myself.

Joyce


On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:51:59 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

LOL, initiative my hind leg, it was stress from Ma being sick. !! I
was
hungry all the time. No more of that, back to using about half the
flex
points and my own estimate of activity points instead of the one the
online
journal gives me. They gave me more, to say the least.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Thank you for taking the initiative to do this experiment. I have
been
too scared
to do it myself, but it does kind of confirm my suspicions ... too
many
points on
the flexpoint system for maintainers. I've yet to figure out that
*number* I
need, no matter what I do I stay the same (which I guess is good).
I
don't know
if I now have my metabolism totally screwed up from not eating
enough.

Regardless, you are doing a fantastic job of maintaining! That's
what's
important.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:10:30 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5 from my top of
range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know Why, I ate every
point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too much.... So I
shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164

Your results are extremely interesting, and I do think they might be much more
accurate when looking at the big picture. I decided yesterday to give it the
official go. On fridays, I will average the weeks results. Sooooooooo - even
though my result yesterday was a lower number, my *official* average for the week
turned out to be 132.2 (actual number on the scale was 132, and today was a tad
lower even). I'm going with the average, am perfectly happy and comfortable with
it. It takes the pressure off those swings that us women tend to deal with
weekly.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 132.2
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:42:56 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

I have been doing that average weight thing for ages. And keeping a total
lost column as well. When I compare the total loss from that method, with
the total official WW loss for the same period, they are about .5 different.
So it obviously is accurate, the WW loss is much more erratic on a graph.
The average loss is almost a straight line, with the occational blip.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I've been the same as you, Lesanne. Hungry so I am eating. I am making
good
choices overall. For 5 days straight my scale showed an alltime low for
me (just
over 131), and did stick there. Stepped up this morning, the day before
the
*official* day ... and right back to where I was last week. So I'm
thinking ...
maybe the average IS the way to go. Why would 1 or 2 higher weight days
be
*truer* than 5 lower and constant weight days? Does it really matter?
LOL

Joyce


On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:53:11 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

You know it is odd. I keep that daily average weight and it showed a
small
loss last week despite. This week I have continued to be very hungry,
and
if I am That hungry I am going to eat something (just making real
healthy
choices). Still eating more points than I was 2 weeks ago, but my scale
has
showed a new low this week that is sticking day to day. Go figure.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Oh heck, doesn't really matter how you came to using all those points
up
... I
still thank you for doing what scares the beejeezus out of me. grin
What can we
blame the higher appetite on? I seem to be going through the same
thing
this
week. I'm not eating more but I've had to be much more concious of my
choices
this week ... seems I've been searching constantly for something to
eat.
I
honestly can say I've been hungry too ... stomach has been rumbling
majorly within
a few hours after eating.

You're right ... the online journal is extremely generous doling out
those
activity points. I also use my own estimate ... I'm rather tough on
myself.

Joyce


On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:51:59 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

LOL, initiative my hind leg, it was stress from Ma being sick. !! I
was
hungry all the time. No more of that, back to using about half the
flex
points and my own estimate of activity points instead of the one the
online
journal gives me. They gave me more, to say the least.


"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Thank you for taking the initiative to do this experiment. I have
been
too scared
to do it myself, but it does kind of confirm my suspicions ... too
many
points on
the flexpoint system for maintainers. I've yet to figure out that
*number* I
need, no matter what I do I stay the same (which I guess is good).
I
don't know
if I now have my metabolism totally screwed up from not eating
enough.

Regardless, you are doing a fantastic job of maintaining! That's
what's
important.

Joyce
WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02
current weight: 133.3
Lifetime: 4/4/03

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:10:30 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Well dang, I gained .6. Not a great way to lose 5 from my top of
range.
But I am still .4 under goal, so whatever. I know Why, I ate every
point
this week, just to see. Well now I know That is too much.... So I
shall
try to eat less flex this week.

Lesanne
(365)247/163.6/164