Dr. Phil

I saw Dr. Phil on Larry King Live for a minute. He was touting his diet
book. He's so big, I don't know how he has any credibility with anyone about
dieting.

Cat

He is 6' 4" and very big boned. I wouldn't call him obese at all. I've seen
pictures of him playing tennis etc and he is hardly fat. But, he is a large
man, 220 or so I think I read.

Melissa


"Cat" wrote in message
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I saw Dr. Phil on Larry King Live for a minute. He was touting his diet
book. He's so big, I don't know how he has any credibility with anyone
about
dieting.

Cat

Big Boned Sic a thing disna e'en exist! Ye mak' me think o Eric Cartman

MadJock

Well, how much do you think a very large boned man of 6' 4" should weigh? He
might have 15-20 pounds he could lose, but he is very athletic and active.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a cheer leader for Dr. Phil, but he is hardly
obese. You can tell by looking at his hands and head size that he is
extremely large boned. Frame sizes do vary a great deal.

Melissa


"MadJock" wrote in message
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Big Boned Sic a thing disna e'en exist! Ye mak' me think o Eric
Cartman

MadJock

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:52:19 GMT, "Cat" wrote:

I saw Dr. Phil on Larry King Live for a minute. He was touting his diet
book. He's so big, I don't know how he has any credibility with anyone about
dieting.

I have not read his book. But I did watch an interview of him on the
web. (yes, there was this web sight where one could play a video of
him being interviewed)

I listened to that he said. He seemed to be more of a "diet motivator"
than a doctor giving out a eating diet. But then his book might do
that where the talk didn't.

But from my little exposure too him I felt he was doing some good if
he can get people to focus on their size and diet. There are many
people who are large and do not know anything about nutrition or how
to even begin to diet. I imagine he doing some good there.

I agree with you that a person's imagine is important. I think there
is facts now to support the theory that large is not unhealthy in all
cases. It is the fat to muscle ration which indicates that. A large
person can have better health than a thin person. But we don't usually
think like that when we see a person. We think big is bad. Etc.

I have read too many diet and nutrition books and to be honest with
you most of them do not have a photograph of the author on them.
I do not know how big the authors are and I have never even thought of
that. I just read the book for what it said.

I guess one could say.. Dr. Phil might be like the professional
boxer's trainers. There are men who train the boxers how to fight, and
they stay in the corners in between the rounds and tell the fighters
how to fight the next round. But these trainers don't fight
themselves.

I guess in this case if Dr. Phil's body is too much fat per pound then
he is declaring. "don't do what I do, do what I say".. smile..

I was large when I was younger. I lost the weight using a diet I
developed from my own reading. I got depressed twenty five years later
and gained a hundred pounds. I went back on the diet about a year ago,
had one relapse and returned to the diet a few months ago.

I know how to diet. I know exactly what to do to lose one hundred
pounds in less than a year. I have done it twice. I used the same diet
ideas this time as I did the first time. Even when I had gained the
weight again and walked around fat for seven years I "knew" how to
diet and could have told anyone "how" to do it.

I think the main issue here is to look at the diet and not the person
who is informing us.

But I do agree with you on that one point. When I was younger and
overweight I went to a doctor. He sat in his chair, and had this
stomach which looked like he had swallowed a beach ball and he was
chain smoking cigarettes. He had these ash trays on his desk which was
full of ashes and cigarette butts. He looked right at me and said.

"Well the first thing you have to do is lose some wight and quit using
tobacco."

Smile. He didn't impress me.

Monte




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I'm European - I don't really know him. I can accept that he can be heavy
without being fat - I just hate that phrase Sorry for any offence - I'm
not trying to start a fight You know how Eric Cartman always says 'I'm
not fat! I'm just big boned!!'. My apologies if the joke was taken in the
wrong way.

MadJock

"Melissa" wrote in message
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Well, how much do you think a very large boned man of 6' 4" should weigh?
He
might have 15-20 pounds he could lose, but he is very athletic and active.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a cheer leader for Dr. Phil, but he is hardly
obese. You can tell by looking at his hands and head size that he is
extremely large boned. Frame sizes do vary a great deal.

No problem. Dr. Phil is ok...my daughter and I watch him sometimes. He
states the painfully obvious for the perpetually stupid, but at least it's
not a bunch of pycho-babble.

Melissa

Melissa wrote:
Well, how much do you think a very large boned man of 6' 4" should weigh? He
might have 15-20 pounds he could lose, but he is very athletic and active.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a cheer leader for Dr. Phil, but he is hardly
obese. You can tell by looking at his hands and head size that he is
extremely large boned. Frame sizes do vary a great deal.

He was on Letterman last week, and said he knew Letterman had been saying
that Dr. Phil was too fat to be giving diet advice. They both took
off their suit jackets (Phil's jackets are apparently cut to hide his
shape), and stood up side by side in the middle of the stage. Phil has
a big double chin, and a large round belly. Letterman has the build of
a catalog model. Together, they joked about looking like a before and
after picture.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

"Montgomery Hounchell" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:52:19 GMT, "Cat" wrote:

I saw Dr. Phil on Larry King Live for a minute. He was touting his diet
book. He's so big, I don't know how he has any credibility with anyone
about
dieting.

I have not read his book. But I did watch an interview of him on the
web. (yes, there was this web sight where one could play a video of
him being interviewed)

I listened to that he said. He seemed to be more of a "diet motivator"
than a doctor giving out a eating diet. But then his book might do
that where the talk didn't.

But from my little exposure too him I felt he was doing some good if
he can get people to focus on their size and diet. There are many
people who are large and do not know anything about nutrition or how
to even begin to diet. I imagine he doing some good there.

I agree with you that a person's imagine is important. I think there
is facts now to support the theory that large is not unhealthy in all
cases. It is the fat to muscle ration which indicates that. A large
person can have better health than a thin person. But we don't usually
think like that when we see a person. We think big is bad. Etc.

I have read too many diet and nutrition books and to be honest with
you most of them do not have a photograph of the author on them.
I do not know how big the authors are and I have never even thought of
that. I just read the book for what it said.

I guess one could say.. Dr. Phil might be like the professional
boxer's trainers. There are men who train the boxers how to fight, and
they stay in the corners in between the rounds and tell the fighters
how to fight the next round. But these trainers don't fight
themselves.

I guess in this case if Dr. Phil's body is too much fat per pound then
he is declaring. "don't do what I do, do what I say".. smile..

In fact he has said as much.

I was large when I was younger. I lost the weight using a diet I
developed from my own reading. I got depressed twenty five years later
and gained a hundred pounds. I went back on the diet about a year ago,
had one relapse and returned to the diet a few months ago.

I know how to diet. I know exactly what to do to lose one hundred
pounds in less than a year. I have done it twice. I used the same diet
ideas this time as I did the first time. Even when I had gained the
weight again and walked around fat for seven years I "knew" how to
diet and could have told anyone "how" to do it.

I think the main issue here is to look at the diet and not the person
who is informing us.

I agree. It's definitely a case of easier said than done. I know more
about
good nutrition and exercise than most people I know but I'm still 100+lbs
overweight for one simple reason. I can never seem to put it all in
practice.
Motivation and determination are my biggest obstacles. I'm on my way though
it's been a long process to change my mentality so that I can change my
body.

But I do agree with you on that one point. When I was younger and
overweight I went to a doctor. He sat in his chair, and had this
stomach which looked like he had swallowed a beach ball and he was
chain smoking cigarettes. He had these ash trays on his desk which was
full of ashes and cigarette butts. He looked right at me and said.

"Well the first thing you have to do is lose some wight and quit using
tobacco."

Smile. He didn't impress me.

Monte


My doctor is like doctor phil, he could stand to lose a few but I value what
he preaches
more than what he practices because I know it's hard to put knowledge into
practice. I
have more respect for him as well because he has not told me that I need to
lose 100 lbs
only that I need to lose 60 (which would put me at 200lbs). He feels that
at that weight I
would be healthy.

I would however frown on any doctor who jeopardized the health of his
patients by smoking
in his office.