Loss of appetite, after only 2.5 days normal? Pls read.

Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker Barrel
marble cheese, and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took the skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

But what I have noticed, is that even though I have been eating less, I am
far less hungry, and don't want to sit down to a supersized McChicken meal,
or eat 2 cups of pasta, 4 pieces of bread, and beef-tomato sauce.

What am I eating? I am eating for dinner (at work, cant cook and work weird
shifts, so no getting to the grocery store (yet):

Kraft Cracker Barrel Marble Cheese (227g)
1 or 2 Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna (170g per can)...

I am drinking alot of tea (decaffeinated) and/or Pepsi, but that is about
it.

When I get home, I am eating usually 4-6 chicken hot dogs (regular sized),
or 4 eggs, and 6 or 7 strips of turkey bacon.
When I get up, I am eating perhaps a few pieces of sliced turkey, or getting
some chicken (sans skin) as I mentioned above.
Also drinking as much water as before (which was ALOT, to say the least)

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up, and your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

Thanks for reading. You all seem so helpful here.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:45:28 GMT, "Steven C \(Doktersteve\)"
wrote:

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up, and your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

Thanks for reading. You all seem so helpful here.

A little earlier than most, but certainly not abnormally so. Amazing,
isn't it, that you can lose weight without feeling miserably hungry
all the time.

My DH had *sworn* he was never going to try and lose weight again
after a miserable time with a low-fat starvation prescribed by a
dietician. A year ago he joined me in LC and feels amazingly healthy
and has dumped a lot of the excess fat he used to carry and yet he
doesn't feel deprived, hungry or miserable.. He's even gotten his
research assistant (DH is a professional scientist) to try the same
and he's doing well too.

Best of luck on your LC journey.

Aramanth
LC 5 1/2 years, plan to be there for life.

I can tell you from my own experience that this sounds normal. The very
first time I did Atkins I was sick as a dog for the first 2 days, then
everything was great. I felt so much better that I was kicking myself for
not doing it sooner. And to not be hungry. That is the best feeling in the
world for someone who used to ALWAYS be hungry. As long as you aren't
noticing any bad side effects, I wouldn't worry. Your body has just
adjusted really well, and quickly, to your diet change. Jump for joy (it
burns a few extra calories as well as making you feel good) and keep up the
good work.

Amanda


"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message
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Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker Barrel
marble cheese, and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as
eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took the
skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

But what I have noticed, is that even though I have been eating less, I am
far less hungry, and don't want to sit down to a supersized McChicken
meal,
or eat 2 cups of pasta, 4 pieces of bread, and beef-tomato sauce.

What am I eating? I am eating for dinner (at work, cant cook and work
weird
shifts, so no getting to the grocery store (yet):

Kraft Cracker Barrel Marble Cheese (227g)
1 or 2 Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna (170g per can)...

I am drinking alot of tea (decaffeinated) and/or Pepsi, but that is about
it.

When I get home, I am eating usually 4-6 chicken hot dogs (regular sized),
or 4 eggs, and 6 or 7 strips of turkey bacon.
When I get up, I am eating perhaps a few pieces of sliced turkey, or
getting
some chicken (sans skin) as I mentioned above.
Also drinking as much water as before (which was ALOT, to say the least)

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up, and your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

Thanks for reading. You all seem so helpful here.

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up, and your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

This has been the experience of both my husband and me....it's great! We're
pretty new to LC (7 weeks), so I hope it continues to be this way. I've
been on many a diet in my 45 years, but this has been the easiest one I've
ever been on, because I don't have cravings and I'm not hungry....and I
don't let myself get hungry, because I find that's when I'm most vulnerable
to wanting to eat carbs if they are around. I just pop a pork rind or some
nuts and I'm good to go.

Sue
LC since 10/6/03

"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message
news:IqTvb.17191$IZ1.1977@edtnps84...
Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT
reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it
is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

You would be surprised.

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of
carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker
Barrel
marble cheese,

1 carb per ounce

and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare
anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took
the skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

Breaded skin, even a little bit can be high (fer instance wendy's
chicken nuggets are 13 g for 5 little bites) assume you had at least 4
per bite.

But what I have noticed, is that even though I have been eating less,
I am
far less hungry, and don't want to sit down to a supersized McChicken
meal,
or eat 2 cups of pasta, 4 pieces of bread, and beef-tomato sauce.

Neato isn't it?

What am I eating? I am eating for dinner (at work, cant cook and work
weird
shifts, so no getting to the grocery store (yet):

Kraft Cracker Barrel Marble Cheese (227g)
1 or 2 Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna (170g per can)...

I am drinking alot of tea (decaffeinated) and/or Pepsi, but that is
about
it.

Tea also has carbs. .7 per 8 oz cup (brewed, decaffinated)

When I get home, I am eating usually 4-6 chicken hot dogs (regular
sized),

Anywhere from one to 8 carbs each. Check your label.

or 4 eggs,

half a carb each.

and 6 or 7 strips of turkey bacon.

depending on whether it was cured with sugar or not, could be 1 carb
each.

When I get up, I am eating perhaps a few pieces of sliced turkey, or
getting
some chicken (sans skin) as I mentioned above.
Also drinking as much water as before (which was ALOT, to say the
least)

Good!

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet
rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up

Glycogen. A form of energy stored in the muscles and liver. It is
burned before fat (the reason "they" say to you have to excercize for 20
minutes before you begin to burn fat).

, and your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

Sometimes. Men have an easier time in all phases than women, for
various reasons boiling down to female hormones suck massively because
insert Deity of your choice has a wicked sense of humor.

Congratulations on taking the plunge and welcome to the group. Bookmark
this site: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl for
instant access to lots of nutrition information.

So what's the Doktor in Doktorsteve for?

revek


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"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote in message
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Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT
reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it
is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

You would be surprised.

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of
carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker
Barrel
marble cheese,

1 carb per ounce


I did some math, and it works out like this:
1 Package @ 227g.
Each serving (1 serving = 30g) contains 0.7g of carb
227/20=7.56 servings per 227g package
7.56 x 0.7g carbs = 5.3g carbs total
:-)

and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare
anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took
the skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

Breaded skin, even a little bit can be high (fer instance wendy's
chicken nuggets are 13 g for 5 little bites) assume you had at least 4
per bite.


Thanks for letting me know that. That sort of info isnt easy to come by, but
i fugured it was safe, and since i am eating very little carb, it was ok.
In the future, i will be even MORE disciplined.

But what I have noticed, is that even though I have been eating less,
I am
far less hungry, and don't want to sit down to a supersized McChicken
meal,
or eat 2 cups of pasta, 4 pieces of bread, and beef-tomato sauce.

Neato isn't it?

What am I eating? I am eating for dinner (at work, cant cook and work
weird
shifts, so no getting to the grocery store (yet):

Kraft Cracker Barrel Marble Cheese (227g)
1 or 2 Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna (170g per can)...

I am drinking alot of tea (decaffeinated) and/or Pepsi, but that is
about
it.

Tea also has carbs. .7 per 8 oz cup (brewed, decaffinated)

When I get home, I am eating usually 4-6 chicken hot dogs (regular
sized),

Anywhere from one to 8 carbs each. Check your label.


1 serving (1 dog) = 0.3g of carbs each.
They are Maple Leaf chicken hot dogs.
I am pretty sure they arent available in the united states, maple leaf is a
canadian company.
Maple Leaf makes some of the best quality chicken products i have ever had.
Their grain fed chicken (its all they sell) has such a great taste to it, it
is all i will buy.

Thanks for the warning though. I have noticed that no name brand safeway
dogs have 2.5g of carbs each, so i went with the brand name stuff.

or 4 eggs,

half a carb each.

and 6 or 7 strips of turkey bacon.

depending on whether it was cured with sugar or not, could be 1 carb
each.


About 0.7g of carbs per serving, and i cannot recall what a serving is,
probably 1 or 2 pieces.
I dont know ounces (sorry), as i am in canada, and we are metric.

When I get up, I am eating perhaps a few pieces of sliced turkey, or
getting
some chicken (sans skin) as I mentioned above.
Also drinking as much water as before (which was ALOT, to say the
least)

Good!


thanks :-)

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet
rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up

Glycogen. A form of energy stored in the muscles and liver. It is
burned before fat (the reason "they" say to you have to excercize for 20
minutes before you begin to burn fat).

, and your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

Sometimes. Men have an easier time in all phases than women, for
various reasons boiling down to female hormones suck massively because
insert Deity of your choice has a wicked sense of humor.


Cool. Thats neat info to have. Thanks alot :-)
I have to admit, at first i thought you were knocking what i was eating (i
am terribly defensive)... But its encouraging to hear that i am doing well.

I am personally PARANOID about the carbs i am taking in, and i am trying to
stay as close to zero as i can.
I re-read my first post, and i said i was drinking pepsi.
Of course, that is DIET pepsi, i just wanted to point that out.

Congratulations on taking the plunge and welcome to the group. Bookmark
this site: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl for
instant access to lots of nutrition information.


Definately. Thanks.

So what's the Doktor in Doktorsteve for?

revek


Just a funny screen name i have been using since 1996. I use it now so i can
go to google groups and search for old posts i have made easilly, as there
are not many others with that name out there on usenet :-)

Thanks for the friendly info.


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In article IqTvb.17191$IZ1.1977@edtnps84, says...
Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker Barrel
marble cheese, and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took the skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

It's okay to eat the (unbreaded) skin -- in fact, it's probably BENEFICIAL
because you DO need the fat and skins are usually pretty tasty :-) What is
glaringly missing, however, is veggies. Most of the 20 carbs during induction
SHOULD come from veggies. It's also important to get ENOUGH food that your body
doesn't think there's a famine and thus tries to thwart losing any weight. Are
you taking supplements? These are also important.

It's great that you are experiencing the lack of cravings. It happened within a
couple of days for me, too. Welcome to the group!

--
Saffire
205/184/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

"Saffire" wrote in message
.. .
In article IqTvb.17191$IZ1.1977@edtnps84,
says...
Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT
reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of
carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker
Barrel
marble cheese, and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as
eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare
anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took the
skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

It's okay to eat the (unbreaded) skin -- in fact, it's probably BENEFICIAL
because you DO need the fat and skins are usually pretty tasty :-) What
is
glaringly missing, however, is veggies. Most of the 20 carbs during
induction
SHOULD come from veggies. It's also important to get ENOUGH food that
your body
doesn't think there's a famine and thus tries to thwart losing any weight.
Are
you taking supplements? These are also important.


I am taking a multi vitamin every morning, along with the first thing that i
munch on.
I havent felt any sorts of leg cramps at all, just a little bit of muscular
fatigue (i have been getting tired at a more decent hour the past few days,
i used to have days that were very long, but could not sleep well, and would
rely on an alarm to get up in the morning, but still got 8 hours of sleep a
day), but also energetic, more so than before.
I have been eating some sweet delmonte corn, but its 15 grams for 1/2 cup! I
assume its because there is alot of sugar in the water it is canned in.
I need to get something for "regularity" tomorrow from the health food
store.
I have cut down my trips to the washroom in one department, but i am peeing
alot more it seems... So i dont know what's happening. probably i am needing
to cut down how much i drink so i dont overdo it.
What are some low carb veggies that arent starch filled (and consequently,
filled with natuar sugars?)
What can i expect to pay for Psyllium husk?

It's great that you are experiencing the lack of cravings. It happened
within a
couple of days for me, too. Welcome to the group!

--
Saffire
205/184/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote:

Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker Barrel
marble cheese, and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took the skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

But what I have noticed, is that even though I have been eating less, I am
far less hungry, and don't want to sit down to a supersized McChicken meal,
or eat 2 cups of pasta, 4 pieces of bread, and beef-tomato sauce.

What am I eating? I am eating for dinner (at work, cant cook and work weird
shifts, so no getting to the grocery store (yet):

Kraft Cracker Barrel Marble Cheese (227g)
1 or 2 Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna (170g per can)...

I am drinking alot of tea (decaffeinated) and/or Pepsi, but that is about
it.

When I get home, I am eating usually 4-6 chicken hot dogs (regular sized),
or 4 eggs, and 6 or 7 strips of turkey bacon.
When I get up, I am eating perhaps a few pieces of sliced turkey, or getting
some chicken (sans skin) as I mentioned above.
Also drinking as much water as before (which was ALOT, to say the least)

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up, and your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

Thanks for reading. You all seem so helpful here.

Yes, that seems normal to me. BUT you need to eat veggies!
--
Jean B.

"Jean B." wrote in message ...
"Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote:

Hello... I started doing Atkins seriously (and for all the RIGHT
reasons,
not just to get a flat tummy) on Tuesday night, at about 10pm, so it is
about three days in a few hours that I have been under 20g of carbs...

I should also point out that I am most likely WAY under 20 grams of
carbs
(if that matters), I have literally just been eating Kraft Cracker
Barrel
marble cheese, and Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna in water... as well as
eggs
and turkey or chicken.
I definitely eat red meat, but I haven't had much time to prepare
anything
for myself.
Today I also had some chubby chicken (breasts) at A&W, which I took the
skin
off (but I snacked a bit on the skin, BAD Steven lol).

But what I have noticed, is that even though I have been eating less, I
am
far less hungry, and don't want to sit down to a supersized McChicken
meal,
or eat 2 cups of pasta, 4 pieces of bread, and beef-tomato sauce.

What am I eating? I am eating for dinner (at work, cant cook and work
weird
shifts, so no getting to the grocery store (yet):

Kraft Cracker Barrel Marble Cheese (227g)
1 or 2 Clover Leaf Flaked Light Tuna (170g per can)...

I am drinking alot of tea (decaffeinated) and/or Pepsi, but that is
about
it.

When I get home, I am eating usually 4-6 chicken hot dogs (regular
sized),
or 4 eggs, and 6 or 7 strips of turkey bacon.
When I get up, I am eating perhaps a few pieces of sliced turkey, or
getting
some chicken (sans skin) as I mentioned above.
Also drinking as much water as before (which was ALOT, to say the least)

So I am wondering if I am experiencing the norm? the book (new diet
rev.)
says that after 2 days your bodies limited supply of something (I cant
recall the name atm) produced from steady carb intake is used up, and
your
body starts to enter ketosis, and it mentions that you WILL loose your
constant hunger in most cases, but is it meant to happen this fast?
If so, awesome...

Thanks for reading. You all seem so helpful here.

Yes, that seems normal to me. BUT you need to eat veggies!


please, recommend some that aren't carb filled. from what I can see, Atkins
just states that no starch filled ones are ok, but what is best?