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Old December 3rd, 2003, 12:16 AM
B-D_
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I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!

But drinking this mix is not correct, according to the "pure water" rule
followers...
They would say:
You *must* drink 8 glasses of pure water on top of those mixed glasses!

Absurd?

You be the judge... suggestions?

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B-D_
Atkins since 11/24/03
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Old December 3rd, 2003, 12:37 AM
Mu-Pi
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"B-D_" wrote in message ...
I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!

But drinking this mix is not correct, according to the "pure water" rule
followers...
They would say:
You *must* drink 8 glasses of pure water on top of those mixed glasses!

Absurd?

You be the judge... suggestions?



At the end of the day you must have consumed a total of 8 glasses of pure
water. It does not matter in this definition if you drank 30 glasses of
"fluid" that is only 26.7% water (the rest being whatever).

As for the diuretic effect of the impurities in the water, that is a
different matter.

In any event, dilute your tea by 1/2 with pure water and drink 16 cups of
this mixture. You will be doing better in any event.

Myself, being a physicist, would rather be pedantic on the saying "not all
calories are equal". All calories are equal.
A calorie is defined as the amount of heat (energy) required to heat one
gram of water by one degree Celsius (at STP as initial conditions).
What is called a calorie in the context of diet is actually a kilocalorie.

In any event, all calories are the same because they are defined.

The more appropriate way to state the idea trying to be presented is that
not all caloric sources are the same.


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Old December 3rd, 2003, 12:58 AM
Dawn Taylor
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Default Why drink pure water when all liquids get mixed up inside?

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 00:16:53 +0100, B-D_ announced
in front of God and everybody:

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!


The basic wisdom behind it is that, first of all, your kidneys don't
have to do as much work to filter water as they do other forms of
beverage. So it's better for you.

As fat as caffeinated drinks tend to cause one to pee more -- the
caffeine irritates the bladder, stimulating more frequent urination --
so you're not absorbing as much water if you drink a lot of caffiene.
But you are, indeed, still getting water.

Me, I count my non-caffeinated beverages toward my water, try to drink
more water than I used to anyway, and limit my caffiene intake. That
works for me. I don't drink eight glasses of water a day in *addition*
to everything else -- I just factor in the decaf drinks and limit my
coffee and cola.

Dawn
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Old December 3rd, 2003, 02:16 AM
The Queen of Cans and Jars
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Default Why drink pure water when all liquids get mixed up inside?

B-D_ wrote:

I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!

But drinking this mix is not correct, according to the "pure water" rule
followers...
They would say:
You *must* drink 8 glasses of pure water on top of those mixed glasses!

Absurd?

You be the judge... suggestions?


drink whatever you want. your body, your science experiment.

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Old December 3rd, 2003, 03:39 AM
Bob Pastorio
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Default Why drink pure water when all liquids get mixed up inside?

B-D_ wrote:

I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.


Don't make it more complicated. Drink as much fluid as is comfortable
for you, irrespective of what it is. Your kidneys will sort it out.

That whole foolishness about coffee and tea being diuretics that will
cause dehydration is debunked daily by all the Starbucks and Lipton
addicts.

Pastorio

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Old December 3rd, 2003, 03:45 AM
Bob Pastorio
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Mu-Pi wrote:

"B-D_" wrote in message ...

I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!

But drinking this mix is not correct, according to the "pure water" rule
followers...
They would say:
You *must* drink 8 glasses of pure water on top of those mixed glasses!

Absurd?

You be the judge... suggestions?




At the end of the day you must have consumed a total of 8 glasses of pure
water. It does not matter in this definition if you drank 30 glasses of
"fluid" that is only 26.7% water (the rest being whatever).

As for the diuretic effect of the impurities in the water, that is a
different matter.

In any event, dilute your tea by 1/2 with pure water and drink 16 cups of
this mixture. You will be doing better in any event.

Myself, being a physicist, would rather be pedantic on the saying "not all
calories are equal". All calories are equal.
A calorie is defined as the amount of heat (energy) required to heat one
gram of water by one degree Celsius (at STP as initial conditions).
What is called a calorie in the context of diet is actually a kilocalorie.

In any event, all calories are the same because they are defined.

The more appropriate way to state the idea trying to be presented is that
not all caloric sources are the same.


Of course, all the calories in food are the same thing since they're
measurements. But not all food sources will be used the same way and
not all foods are actually available for caloric use. Forgive me if
this is what you're saying and I'm not getting it.

An obvious example of non-caloric calories is fiber. Stick it into a
bomb calorimeter and you get a number around 4 Kcalories per gram. But
since our bodies can't digest and use that fiber, it's a package of
calories not available to us. In effect, non-caloric to human
digestion even though containing those pedantic calories mentioned above.

Pastorio

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Old December 3rd, 2003, 03:59 AM
Mu-Pi
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"Bob Pastorio" wrote in message
...
Mu-Pi wrote:

"B-D_" wrote in message ...

I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!

But drinking this mix is not correct, according to the "pure water" rule
followers...
They would say:
You *must* drink 8 glasses of pure water on top of those mixed glasses!

Absurd?

You be the judge... suggestions?




At the end of the day you must have consumed a total of 8 glasses of

pure
water. It does not matter in this definition if you drank 30 glasses of
"fluid" that is only 26.7% water (the rest being whatever).

As for the diuretic effect of the impurities in the water, that is a
different matter.

In any event, dilute your tea by 1/2 with pure water and drink 16 cups

of
this mixture. You will be doing better in any event.

Myself, being a physicist, would rather be pedantic on the saying "not

all
calories are equal". All calories are equal.
A calorie is defined as the amount of heat (energy) required to heat one
gram of water by one degree Celsius (at STP as initial conditions).
What is called a calorie in the context of diet is actually a

kilocalorie.

In any event, all calories are the same because they are defined.

The more appropriate way to state the idea trying to be presented is

that
not all caloric sources are the same.


Of course, all the calories in food are the same thing since they're
measurements. But not all food sources will be used the same way and
not all foods are actually available for caloric use. Forgive me if
this is what you're saying and I'm not getting it.


You are, and that is the point of my pedantry.

An obvious example of non-caloric calories is fiber. Stick it into a
bomb calorimeter and you get a number around 4 Kcalories per gram. But
since our bodies can't digest and use that fiber, it's a package of
calories not available to us. In effect, non-caloric to human
digestion even though containing those pedantic calories mentioned above.

Pastorio



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Old December 3rd, 2003, 05:45 AM
Bob Peterson
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"Dawn Taylor" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 00:16:53 +0100, B-D_ announced
in front of God and everybody:

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!


The basic wisdom behind it is that, first of all, your kidneys don't
have to do as much work to filter water as they do other forms of
beverage. So it's better for you.

As fat as caffeinated drinks tend to cause one to pee more -- the
caffeine irritates the bladder, stimulating more frequent urination --
so you're not absorbing as much water if you drink a lot of caffiene.
But you are, indeed, still getting water.


Once it gets into your bladder its already ready to be excreted, so I doubt
this explanation holds any water (pun intended).


Me, I count my non-caffeinated beverages toward my water, try to drink
more water than I used to anyway, and limit my caffiene intake. That
works for me. I don't drink eight glasses of water a day in *addition*
to everything else -- I just factor in the decaf drinks and limit my
coffee and cola.

Dawn



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Old December 3rd, 2003, 08:01 AM
trebor4258
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Default Why drink pure water.....; Easy answer for me!


"B-D_" wrote in message ...
I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!

But drinking this mix is not correct, according to the "pure water" rule
followers...
They would say:
You *must* drink 8 glasses of pure water on top of those mixed glasses!

Absurd?

You be the judge... suggestions?

--
B-D_
Atkins since 11/24/03
199/191/165


Even the so called "experts" have backed off of this one in the past few
years. IIRC, they're counting all fluids now toward the "recommended daily"
intake of water. Duh!

Not drinking plain old water was one of the last things that I held out on
in trying to embrace LC as a WOE instead of a diet. Never really liked
water in the first place, and had no plans to change. One of my remaining
hold outs is caffeine and I just "ain't givin' up" the coffee.

For most of the first year, I finished my morning pot of coffee then usually
switched to diet sodas, tea, or some other flavored low-no calorie beverage.
Invariably I'd get hungry around lunch time and did my best to stay LC and
it all worked. I did notice, however, when I grabbed a diet soda (Splenda
sweetened, aspartame sweetened, or even saccharine sweetened) I'd end up
hungry within an hour or so of finishing it.

Ran out of sodas one week and was too lazy and cheap to hit the grocery
without them being on sale, so after I finished my coffee that day, I made
a big cup of ice water and sipped on it for the rest of the morning. I
really didn't even notice it at the time, but I didn't get nearly as hungry
as I did when I was drinking the sodas.

Can't really explain it, but for me, even the "fake" sweetness of the
alternate drinks drives my hunger pangs and plain old water doesn't.

I still grab a soda now and then, but I'm not drinking as many of them as I
used to and have probably doubled or tripled my "pure water" intake.

trebor



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Old December 3rd, 2003, 09:00 AM
Mu-Pi
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"trebor4258" wrote in message
nk.net...

"B-D_" wrote in message ...
I don't see the point in "you must drink 8 glasses of *pure* water per
day" rule, because you can drink additionally any other lo-carb beverage
if you're at the end of the day meeting that 8 glasses requirement of
pure water.

So let's say I drink 8 glasses of water and in the meantime I drink two
glasses of strong tea. The stomach is one and only one, so all this
water and tea gets mixed up and at the end in there and it's the same
like drinking 10 glasses of strong tea mixed 2:8 with water creating
some sort of weak tea taste. Which still tastes better than pure water!

But drinking this mix is not correct, according to the "pure water" rule
followers...
They would say:
You *must* drink 8 glasses of pure water on top of those mixed glasses!

Absurd?

You be the judge... suggestions?

--
B-D_
Atkins since 11/24/03
199/191/165


Even the so called "experts" have backed off of this one in the past few
years. IIRC, they're counting all fluids now toward the "recommended

daily"
intake of water. Duh!

Not drinking plain old water was one of the last things that I held out on
in trying to embrace LC as a WOE instead of a diet. Never really liked
water in the first place, and had no plans to change. One of my remaining
hold outs is caffeine and I just "ain't givin' up" the coffee.

For most of the first year, I finished my morning pot of coffee then

usually
switched to diet sodas, tea, or some other flavored low-no calorie

beverage.
Invariably I'd get hungry around lunch time and did my best to stay LC and
it all worked. I did notice, however, when I grabbed a diet soda (Splenda
sweetened, aspartame sweetened, or even saccharine sweetened) I'd end up
hungry within an hour or so of finishing it.

Ran out of sodas one week and was too lazy and cheap to hit the grocery
without them being on sale, so after I finished my coffee that day, I

made
a big cup of ice water and sipped on it for the rest of the morning. I
really didn't even notice it at the time, but I didn't get nearly as

hungry
as I did when I was drinking the sodas.

Can't really explain it, but for me, even the "fake" sweetness of the
alternate drinks drives my hunger pangs and plain old water doesn't.

I still grab a soda now and then, but I'm not drinking as many of them as

I
used to and have probably doubled or tripled my "pure water" intake.


"Water? Never drink it... fish fu*k in it."
W.C. Fields



 




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