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Old October 12th, 2003, 08:25 PM
Shashay Doofray
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Hi everybody, you might remember me. On August 1, 2003, I posted a message
to this ng entitled "Please help me understand what is going on."

Just to recap, I told you about how, despite going from a sedentary
lifestyle to a very active and physically demanding job, that six weeks
later, I hadn't lost a pound.

Well, As of September 24, I had still been working at that job *and* walking
3 miles a once a week on Saturdays. As far as food intake, the only
difference was that I did eat breakfast consisting of a cheese and bacon
bagel. That is the only additional daily food intake during this entire
period of time.

As of September 24th, I had gained 12 pounds. And NO, my clothes were NOT
fitting any looser, and NO, I didn't feel any better - at all - in fact I
felt worse than I ever had before.

So much for your theory of exercise and increasing activity to burn calories
and lose weight. When it comes to that idea, your all wet.

SD
back to her normal lifestyle now, and hopefully on the road to really losing
some pounds.

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Old October 12th, 2003, 08:44 PM
jayjay
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Well, so sorry you are struggling. I don't recall your specifics from
August. (with hundreds of posts a day, you can't remember them all).

But, bagels are calorie dense food items. And 3 miles once a week, well,
that might burn you an extra 400 calories - which is only equivalent to 1
bagel.


"Shashay Doofray" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody, you might remember me. On August 1, 2003, I posted a

message
to this ng entitled "Please help me understand what is going on."

Just to recap, I told you about how, despite going from a sedentary
lifestyle to a very active and physically demanding job, that six weeks
later, I hadn't lost a pound.

Well, As of September 24, I had still been working at that job *and*

walking
3 miles a once a week on Saturdays. As far as food intake, the only
difference was that I did eat breakfast consisting of a cheese and bacon
bagel. That is the only additional daily food intake during this entire
period of time.

As of September 24th, I had gained 12 pounds. And NO, my clothes were NOT
fitting any looser, and NO, I didn't feel any better - at all - in fact I
felt worse than I ever had before.

So much for your theory of exercise and increasing activity to burn

calories
and lose weight. When it comes to that idea, your all wet.

SD
back to her normal lifestyle now, and hopefully on the road to really

losing
some pounds.

--
*..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
((¸¸.·´ .·´ -:¦:- *Shashay* -:¦:-
-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*







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Old October 12th, 2003, 09:01 PM
Melissa
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Here's your original post:

For the past 7 years I have been about 40 lbs overweight. Initially, the
weight gain (in a 9 month period) was due to taking Depo Provera shots.
However, it has been more than 5 years and I still have not lost any weight.

Recently, I have gotten a good job that requires me to be much more
physically active than I have ever been before. To give you an idea of the
difference let me give you an idea of my "before" and "after" life style.

BEFO

Get up around 11 am or noon. Sit around. Work on computer. Do nothing.
Maybe go for a car ride.
Lunch at around 2 - 3 pm. Usually soup and sandwich or worse.
Afternoon. Not do much. Read. Maybe do a little sewing. Work on
computer. Do nothing much.
Dinner around 7, usually a nice meal (meat, starch, vegetable, salad)
A couple of beers
Snack at around midnight (usually a sandwich)
Bed at about 3 am

AFTER:

Up at 8:30 Breakfast at 9:00 (usually a boiled egg and toast or possibly
bagle and cream cheese) Vitamins.
Work all morning. On my feet constantly walking. Lifting 40 pounds of
merchandise repeatedly during the day. Possibly as much as 60- 100 times a
day. Constant walking, bending, lifting. No sitting down except for lunch
break.
Lunch. Sandwich, fresh veggies, potato chips, water
Afternoon (same as morning)
Dinner at 7 same as before
After dinner, check email
Snack at 11 same as before
bed by 1 am.

Now wouldn't you think that going from being absolutely sedentary to being
very physically active all day, that after 9 weeks I would have lost
SOMETHING?

Nope. Not a pound.

I am totally stupified. I thought I would be dropping weight like nobody's
business. Does anybody have a rational explanation for this?"

end quote


Without a calorie count, there is no way to explain anything. You could
easily be eating 3000-5000 calories per day. Walking 3 miles once per week
isn't going to do much for weight loss. If you now working a more physical
job, you are more likely eating more as well.

Count your calories for a few days, then post back with details. You have
to reduce your intake by 3500 calories to loose a pound. You do the math.

Melissa


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Old October 13th, 2003, 12:58 PM
Beverly
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"Shashay Doofray" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody, you might remember me. On August 1, 2003, I posted a

message
to this ng entitled "Please help me understand what is going on."

Just to recap, I told you about how, despite going from a sedentary
lifestyle to a very active and physically demanding job, that six weeks
later, I hadn't lost a pound.

Well, As of September 24, I had still been working at that job *and*

walking
3 miles a once a week on Saturdays. As far as food intake, the only
difference was that I did eat breakfast consisting of a cheese and bacon
bagel. That is the only additional daily food intake during this entire
period of time.

As of September 24th, I had gained 12 pounds. And NO, my clothes were

NOT
fitting any looser, and NO, I didn't feel any better - at all - in fact I
felt worse than I ever had before.


Have you tried going to www.fitday.com and entering your daily food intake
to see how many calories you're eating? Try to keep the calories at a 10 x
current weight range. This should certainly result in some weight loss.
Are you doing any exercise other than the 3 mile walk on Saturdays? I
workout 3 times a week at Curves and unless I watch my calorie intake I can
still can gain weight. Exercise helps but unless you keep your calories at
the proper level you'll just be a "fitter fatter person". Are you keeping
the protein/carb/fat ratio at a good level? It's really hard to gain 12
pounds unless you're eating above your required calorie range.


So much for your theory of exercise and increasing activity to burn

calories
and lose weight. When it comes to that idea, your all wet.

SD
back to her normal lifestyle now, and hopefully on the road to really

losing
some pounds.

--
*..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
((¸¸.·´ .·´ -:¦:- *Shashay* -:¦:-
-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*







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Old October 13th, 2003, 04:22 PM
determined
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"Shashay Doofray" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody, you might remember me. On August 1, 2003, I posted a

message
to this ng entitled "Please help me understand what is going on."

Just to recap, I told you about how, despite going from a sedentary
lifestyle to a very active and physically demanding job, that six weeks
later, I hadn't lost a pound.

Well, As of September 24, I had still been working at that job *and*

walking
3 miles a once a week on Saturdays. As far as food intake, the only
difference was that I did eat breakfast consisting of a cheese and bacon
bagel. That is the only additional daily food intake during this entire
period of time.

As of September 24th, I had gained 12 pounds. And NO, my clothes were NOT
fitting any looser, and NO, I didn't feel any better - at all - in fact I
felt worse than I ever had before.

So much for your theory of exercise and increasing activity to burn

calories
and lose weight. When it comes to that idea, your all wet.


Sounds like your food choices really SUCK. If the rest of your diet is
anything like your high fat high carb bagel breakfast, it's no wonder you
gained.

Bottom line is that you must eat MORE calories than you burn every day to
lose weight (diet + exercise), and that you must eat MORE calories than you
burn every day to gain weight. If you gained 12 lbs, then you are eating
TOO MUCH. Unless you have some medical problem affecting your metabolism -
but I doubt it.

Yeah, everybody wants to believe that really, there is some magic to losing
weight, that doesn't require diligence, effort, sweat, and sacrifice. But
it don't exist...

det


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Old October 13th, 2003, 11:07 PM
Shashay Doofray
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Sounds like your food choices really SUCK. If the rest of your diet is
anything like your high fat high carb bagel breakfast, it's no wonder you
gained.

Bottom line is that you must eat MORE calories than you burn every day to
lose weight (diet + exercise), and that you must eat MORE calories than

you
burn every day to gain weight. If you gained 12 lbs, then you are eating
TOO MUCH. Unless you have some medical problem affecting your

metabolism -
but I doubt it.


Yes, that's what everybody is saying. However, I changed nothing in my diet
except for the addition of a morning bagel and upped my physical activity by
at least 200 percent and NOT ONLY did I not lose weight, I gained it. So I
don't buy the theory.

SD


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Old October 13th, 2003, 11:48 PM
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"determined" wrote in message news:Bsydne9b5ti1XheiU-

Bottom line is that you must eat MORE calories than you burn every day to
lose weight (diet + exercise


oops, should be eat LESS calories than you burn to lose...


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Old October 13th, 2003, 11:50 PM
determined
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"Shashay Doofray" wrote in message
...
Sounds like your food choices really SUCK. If the rest of your diet is
anything like your high fat high carb bagel breakfast, it's no wonder

you
gained.

Bottom line is that you must eat MORE calories than you burn every day

to
lose weight (diet + exercise), and that you must eat MORE calories than

you
burn every day to gain weight. If you gained 12 lbs, then you are

eating
TOO MUCH. Unless you have some medical problem affecting your

metabolism -
but I doubt it.


Yes, that's what everybody is saying. However, I changed nothing in my

diet
except for the addition of a morning bagel and upped my physical activity

by
at least 200 percent and NOT ONLY did I not lose weight, I gained it. So

I
don't buy the theory.


What theory DO you buy? That some medical mystery is making you fat? Get
over it! Seriously - success will only come when you start taking a good
hard look at what you eat and being willing to exercise. Walking 3 miles
burns very few calories. Tell me, how many calories do you consume in a
day?

det


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Old October 13th, 2003, 11:53 PM
Melissa
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FWIW...you could easily gain 1 pound per week by adding that bagel to your
daily intake. A large New York style bagel can have 300-500 calories.
Depending on what you put on it could make it more as well.

Go on playing the victim and you'll never loose weight. You have to own the
problem to fix it. Regardless of what you believe, it's calories in and
calories used that determine gain or loss.

Melissa


"Shashay Doofray" wrote in message
...
Sounds like your food choices really SUCK. If the rest of your diet is
anything like your high fat high carb bagel breakfast, it's no wonder

you
gained.

Bottom line is that you must eat MORE calories than you burn every day

to
lose weight (diet + exercise), and that you must eat MORE calories than

you
burn every day to gain weight. If you gained 12 lbs, then you are

eating
TOO MUCH. Unless you have some medical problem affecting your

metabolism -
but I doubt it.


Yes, that's what everybody is saying. However, I changed nothing in my

diet
except for the addition of a morning bagel and upped my physical activity

by
at least 200 percent and NOT ONLY did I not lose weight, I gained it. So

I
don't buy the theory.

SD




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Old October 14th, 2003, 12:52 PM
Beverly
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"Shashay Doofray" wrote in message
...
Sounds like your food choices really SUCK. If the rest of your diet is
anything like your high fat high carb bagel breakfast, it's no wonder

you
gained.

Bottom line is that you must eat MORE calories than you burn every day

to
lose weight (diet + exercise), and that you must eat MORE calories than

you
burn every day to gain weight. If you gained 12 lbs, then you are

eating
TOO MUCH. Unless you have some medical problem affecting your

metabolism -
but I doubt it.


Yes, that's what everybody is saying. However, I changed nothing in my

diet
except for the addition of a morning bagel and upped my physical activity

by
at least 200 percent and NOT ONLY did I not lose weight, I gained it. So

I
don't buy the theory.

SD

If you were gaining on your previous diet and added a bagel then I'm not
surprised you packed on a few more pounds. If you really want to lose
weight you need to track your calories for a few days. You're probably
eating much more than you think.




 




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