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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
I am 20 years of age,and weigh 275 lbs.I have started a diet
consisting of the first 3 days of the week eating about 1000 calories without exercise,then the next 4 days eating about 2500 calories and doing cardio for an hour,sometimes half hour cardio and half hour weightlifting.Now,after the first 3 days of eating 1000 calories,i've lost about 10 pounds,and I know for a fact that its water weight,but when i continued the 4 days of eating 2500 calories and doing the exercise,the weight has not come back.Now I'm wondering,if i were to proceed to the 2nd week of this diet,will I lose a considerable amount of weight,im not necessarily saying 10 pounds,but something close to 5 pounds,and that being fat?Since the water weight is gone,meaning there is no more glycogen to get the energy from,then will it attack the fat?The doctor who told me to follow this diet plan told me a woman lost 30 pounds in a month using this method,and has not gained it back.She has kept the weight off,so I can interpret that since the glycogen stores were empty,the body has gone into fat burning mode.Your comments/opinions and suggestions are appreciated.Thanks for your time. Mack 314/275/200 |
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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
First thing is stop what you are doing. Workout at least
half an hour EVERY day, and keep the number of calories the same EVERY day. Bingeing is a bad idea whether you're talking about alchohol or food, and skipping meals is also one way to sabotage your weight loss plans. Get another doctor. The one you have obviously is clueless about eating and good health. Mack wrote: I am 20 years of age,and weigh 275 lbs.I have started a diet consisting of the first 3 days of the week eating about 1000 calories without exercise,then the next 4 days eating about 2500 calories and doing cardio for an hour,sometimes half hour cardio and half hour weightlifting.Now,after the first 3 days of eating 1000 calories,i've lost about 10 pounds,and I know for a fact that its water weight,but when i continued the 4 days of eating 2500 calories and doing the exercise,the weight has not come back.Now I'm wondering,if i were to proceed to the 2nd week of this diet,will I lose a considerable amount of weight,im not necessarily saying 10 pounds,but something close to 5 pounds,and that being fat?Since the water weight is gone,meaning there is no more glycogen to get the energy from,then will it attack the fat?The doctor who told me to follow this diet plan told me a woman lost 30 pounds in a month using this method,and has not gained it back.She has kept the weight off,so I can interpret that since the glycogen stores were empty,the body has gone into fat burning mode.Your comments/opinions and suggestions are appreciated.Thanks for your time. Mack 314/275/200 |
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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
Patricia Heil wrote:
First thing is stop what you are doing. Workout at least half an hour EVERY day, and keep the number of calories the same EVERY day. Sorry, incorrect. Many people find that alternating weight-lifting and cardio days is a great way to get in their exercise. I personally lift weights for about 45 minutes 3 days a week and do interval training for about 20 minutes three different days a week. It is a great system for startling your body into learning how to burn fat. Bingeing is a bad idea whether you're talking about alchohol or food, and skipping meals is also one way to sabotage your weight loss plans. Periodic refeeds keep you from having a leptin response that can sometimes cause binging. The Rotation Diet from the 80's was built on this premise and there is some basis for it. And, as Igor pointed out, 2500 calories isn't exactly binging for a 300 pound man. Get another doctor. The one you have obviously is clueless about eating and good health. Please don't listen to Patty Heil's advice. She is a perfectly nice woman but she doesn't appear to have learned anything new since 1980. Wendy |
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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
Mack wrote:
I am 20 years of age,and weigh 275 lbs.I have started a diet consisting of the first 3 days of the week eating about 1000 calories without exercise,then the next 4 days eating about 2500 calories and doing cardio for an hour,sometimes half hour cardio and half hour weightlifting. One of the basic premises we've learned on how to construct a diet at which you'll fail and regain all the weight is to construct one where you can't wait to quit it. A diet where you eat 1000 calories and don't exercise doesn't seem like one you should continue for the rest of your life. A better choice might be to do the 2500 calories six days a week and occasionally, maybe 1x a week, eat your old way just for a refeed and to handle cravings. This way you'd be teaching yourself how to eat when you actually GET to 180 pounds (or whatever you're aiming for.) Now,after the first 3 days of eating 1000 calories,i've lost about 10 pounds,and I know for a fact that its water weight,but when i continued the 4 days of eating 2500 calories and doing the exercise,the weight has not come back. What are your fat loss goals? If you are trying to look good for a photo shoot on the 8th then this might be a good plan and your water weight issues are pertinant. If you're trying to lose 95 pounds of fat then there is no point in caring about this or discussing it. Now I'm wondering,if i were to proceed to the 2nd week of this diet,will I lose a considerable amount of weight,im not necessarily saying 10 pounds,but something close to 5 pounds,and that being fat?Since the water weight is gone,meaning there is no more glycogen to get the energy from,then will it attack the fat? I really, really hate hearing people sit around projecting their future fat loss. It's part of the same mindset that says, "I'm going to diet to X number and then stop this silly way of eating so I can regain it all now." I did that in my twenties, too, and ended up fatter than ever. I'd love to see you be able to step off this merry-go-round and learn how to lose the fat for good. The doctor who told me to follow this diet plan told me a woman lost 30 pounds in a month using this method,and has not gained it back.She has kept the weight off,so I can interpret that since the glycogen stores were empty,the body has gone into fat burning mode.Your comments/opinions and suggestions are appreciated.Thanks for your time. I think what your body does when the glycogen reserves are gone is highly variable. It can use your next calorie to provide blood sugar to the brain, it can use it to restore glycogen reserves, it can use it to fuel current energy needs or it can store it as fat. Or it could store it as fat while burning some muscle for fuel! People who are very overweight often have more fat-storing enzymes than fat-burning enzymes, meaning they have an over-active insulin response that sweeps calories directly into fat cells even though those calories could better be used elsewhere. It also means that their muscles aren't used to demanding energy and the enzymes that convert fat into energy are few and far between. The best way to increase your fat-burning enzymes is to make your body to startling things: do high intensity interval training, for example, where your body suddenly requests lots of energy out of the blue. Or weight lifting, where suddenly your muscles are screaming they need energy to repair the damage you did yesterday. The best way to overcome insulin resistance is to pay attention to your glycemic load in your diet: choose meals that are high in fiber, protein and healthy fats. Eat small meals/snacks every three hours or so. Your doctor is not usually the best place to get weight-loss help. The doctor knows what we know, but doesn't usually know how to convey the truth to you in such a way as you'll actually do what you need to do. So doctors tell you a trick hoping you can at least implement the trick blindly. The answer, though, is this: 1.) Eat less 2.) Exercise more 3.) Repeat 4.) Forever. I really recommend you do some reading. Great books I've read are the Covert Baily books, Barry Sears books, Walter Willet's book, and my personal favorite, "Body for Life" by Bill Phillips. Good luck, Wendy |
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In article , Wendy
wrote: Patricia Heil wrote: First thing is stop what you are doing. Patricia, stop what you are doing by posting so many crocks! Please don't listen to Patty Heil's advice. She is a perfectly nice woman but she doesn't appear to have learned anything new since 1980. Wendy Where does she get her info? I at least read the daily newspapers even if the studies I sometimes post are not major or new. What is she thinking? |
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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
Just to post my progress.I have lost 15 pounds in 9 days,and i know
alll of it is not water weight or even muscle loss,i know for a fact i have burned alot of fat,my BF% has went down alot,and i feel that i have lost weight,my clothes are much much looser than before.I actually continued my diet but i'm only eating 1000 calories a day,and walking about 45 minutes a day.I DONT FEEL HUNGRY AT ALL,and every morning when i wake up,I feel like another load of fat has vanished.I'm getting moerate carbs and moderate proteins,and low fat.I take multivitamins every single day.I also drink at least 8 cups of water a day. Mack 314/268/200 |
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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
Just to post my progress.I have lost 15 pounds in 9 days,and i know
alll of it is not water weight or even muscle loss,i know for a fact i have burned alot of fat,my BF% has went down alot,and i feel that i have lost weight,my clothes are much much looser than before.I actually continued my diet but i'm only eating 1000 calories a day,and walking about 45 minutes a day.I DONT FEEL HUNGRY AT ALL,and every morning when i wake up,I feel like another load of fat has vanished.I'm getting moerate carbs and moderate proteins,and low fat.I take multivitamins every single day.I also drink at least 8 cups of water a day. Mack 314/268/200 |
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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
"Mack" Just to post my progress.I have lost 15 pounds in 9 days,and i know alll of it is not water weight or even muscle loss,i know for a fact i have burned alot of fat,my BF% has went down alot,and i feel that i have lost weight,my clothes are much much looser than before.I actually continued my diet but i'm only eating 1000 calories a day,and walking about 45 minutes a day.I DONT FEEL HUNGRY AT ALL,and every morning when i wake up,I feel like another load of fat has vanished.I'm getting moerate carbs and moderate proteins,and low fat.I take multivitamins every single day.I also drink at least 8 cups of water a day. Mack 314/268/200 Stay the course, Mack. You're doing super! I never feel as though layers of fat are disappearing, but sometimes I almost convince myself that I can feel the fat reserves in my body burning up when I'm exercising. Rowena. 273/225/150 |
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Water weight...Good or bad sign?!?
I don't konw that it's good or bad. I know that in the frist 3-4 weeks
I lost quite a bit of weight and then it leveled off for the next 25 pounds or so. Then it got a bit slower but again, leveled off for the next 15 pounds. The most recent 10 were pretty slow but I know that there was a lot going on because my BF% was dropping quite a bit during that time. Like you, I drink a lot of water -- 16 oz before work (if I go to the gym that morning, another 20 oz there). I bring a 32 oz Nalgene bottle of water to work and I drink that before leaving. Then I drink at least 3-4 more 16 oz classes at night. 1000 calories seems pretty low. You may consider bumping that up a bit -- at least in your mind. I mean, think of a budget. While you want to be within budget and it's OK to be below budget, you don't always need to be below budget. OTOH, I'm not advocating eating when you are not hungry. Do you know what I mean? On 10/13/2003 12:45 AM, Mack wrote: Just to post my progress.I have lost 15 pounds in 9 days,and i know alll of it is not water weight or even muscle loss,i know for a fact i have burned alot of fat,my BF% has went down alot,and i feel that i have lost weight,my clothes are much much looser than before.I actually continued my diet but i'm only eating 1000 calories a day,and walking about 45 minutes a day.I DONT FEEL HUNGRY AT ALL,and every morning when i wake up,I feel like another load of fat has vanished.I'm getting moerate carbs and moderate proteins,and low fat.I take multivitamins every single day.I also drink at least 8 cups of water a day. Mack 314/268/200 |
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