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Old August 19th, 2004, 01:37 PM
Annabel Smyth
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JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:


Actually, I eat a single serving of almonds a few times a week as one of my
5-6 meals a day and find they are very satisfying and tie me over very well
until my next mealtime. Plus they're portable and easy to eat on the way to
the gym. Studies have shown that adding almonds to a healthy diet
*promotes* weight loss.


Fair enough. I believe walnuts are alleged to have a similar effect,
no?


I'm no expert, but I think removing fat is very traumatic to the body.
The body wants and actually needs fat.


It's actually as impossible to cut fat out completely as it is to cut
carbohydrates! One can, however, lower the amount one eats very easily,
and there is medical evidence to prove that saturated fats are best
avoided as much as possible.


Of the 18g fat in a single serving of almonds, 12g are monounstaturated and
4g are polyunsaturated. It has a better nutritional profile than a similar
serving of most cheeses if you're worried about fat.

That's rather what I thought, in terms of nuts.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg

  #32  
Old August 19th, 2004, 01:57 PM
Mermaid
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Thanks everyone for all of the information. I also have a problem with
because we are so busy with activities I don't cook at home much anymore.
Or if I do it has to be a quickie and my husband is very picky at what
he will eat. So that is my predicament. I eat many things and love veggies.
But rarely will I fix something just for myself. Is there a book someone
knows of that might help me in my situation?

One good thing, I started working on the Nordic track last night. I did 30
min
at 2.5 mph. And I went to sleep like a baby. I was afraid it might cause me
to
wake up more and keep me from sleeping but it actually made me tired enough
to be sleepy. Maybe that is the answer. Mornings are out of the question.

Thanks,
Paulette


"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
Mermaid wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:

In trying to select my new eating program. I have a question. Which is

more
important?
Counting calories or fat grams? I have seen people go both ways. I have

some
cellulite and would like to deal with that too.

Both, and! The *only* way to lose weight is to burn more calories than
you take in. This means eating less and exercising more. However,
while protein and carbohydrate each have 4 calories (Kilocalories,
actually) per gramme, fat has 9. So if you can cut excess fat out of
your diet, it's a relatively easy and painless way to cut calories. It
is sensible to allow yourself a little "healthy" fat, such as olive oil,
or to take, as I do, a fish-oil supplement daily (keeps my joints
supple!), but if you cut out butter, margarine, lard, cheese (as much as
possible), egg yolks (again, as much as possible), and when you buy
prepared foods, only buy those that claim to have less than 5 grammes of
fat per 100 grammes of product, you will do well.

However, one caveat. When low fat eating became very popular, about
8-10 years ago, the market was flooded with "healthy" low-fat products.
Unfortunately, many of these products replaced the fat with sugar, or
artificial flavourings, to make up for the absence of fat. You would do
better, whatever way you choose to cut calories, to prepare as much of
your own food as possible, and to buy as little ready-made food as you
can. It is easy to make a fruit-cake and substitute pureed prunes for
the margarine, for instance, and you can even cut the sugar a little as
the prunes are sweet already. But a bought cake may have *extra* sugar
to make up for the lack of fat. Sigh.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg



  #33  
Old August 19th, 2004, 01:57 PM
Mermaid
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Thanks everyone for all of the information. I also have a problem with
because we are so busy with activities I don't cook at home much anymore.
Or if I do it has to be a quickie and my husband is very picky at what
he will eat. So that is my predicament. I eat many things and love veggies.
But rarely will I fix something just for myself. Is there a book someone
knows of that might help me in my situation?

One good thing, I started working on the Nordic track last night. I did 30
min
at 2.5 mph. And I went to sleep like a baby. I was afraid it might cause me
to
wake up more and keep me from sleeping but it actually made me tired enough
to be sleepy. Maybe that is the answer. Mornings are out of the question.

Thanks,
Paulette


"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
Mermaid wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:

In trying to select my new eating program. I have a question. Which is

more
important?
Counting calories or fat grams? I have seen people go both ways. I have

some
cellulite and would like to deal with that too.

Both, and! The *only* way to lose weight is to burn more calories than
you take in. This means eating less and exercising more. However,
while protein and carbohydrate each have 4 calories (Kilocalories,
actually) per gramme, fat has 9. So if you can cut excess fat out of
your diet, it's a relatively easy and painless way to cut calories. It
is sensible to allow yourself a little "healthy" fat, such as olive oil,
or to take, as I do, a fish-oil supplement daily (keeps my joints
supple!), but if you cut out butter, margarine, lard, cheese (as much as
possible), egg yolks (again, as much as possible), and when you buy
prepared foods, only buy those that claim to have less than 5 grammes of
fat per 100 grammes of product, you will do well.

However, one caveat. When low fat eating became very popular, about
8-10 years ago, the market was flooded with "healthy" low-fat products.
Unfortunately, many of these products replaced the fat with sugar, or
artificial flavourings, to make up for the absence of fat. You would do
better, whatever way you choose to cut calories, to prepare as much of
your own food as possible, and to buy as little ready-made food as you
can. It is easy to make a fruit-cake and substitute pureed prunes for
the margarine, for instance, and you can even cut the sugar a little as
the prunes are sweet already. But a bought cake may have *extra* sugar
to make up for the lack of fat. Sigh.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg



  #34  
Old August 19th, 2004, 02:09 PM
Beverly
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"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:


Actually, I eat a single serving of almonds a few times a week as one of

my
5-6 meals a day and find they are very satisfying and tie me over very

well
until my next mealtime. Plus they're portable and easy to eat on the way

to
the gym. Studies have shown that adding almonds to a healthy diet
*promotes* weight loss.


Fair enough. I believe walnuts are alleged to have a similar effect,
no?

Walnuts and almonds are about the same. I believe the almond has slighthly
more fiber than the walnut. Some people just don't care for the taste of
some walnuts. I like them in recipes but don't particularly like them as a
snack.

We had several walnut tress in the neighborhood where I grew up. My friends
and I often gathered them and cracked them open for eating. Some of them
could be quite bitter!

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...ages/Nuts?open



I'm no expert, but I think removing fat is very traumatic to the body.
The body wants and actually needs fat.

It's actually as impossible to cut fat out completely as it is to cut
carbohydrates! One can, however, lower the amount one eats very

easily,
and there is medical evidence to prove that saturated fats are best
avoided as much as possible.


Of the 18g fat in a single serving of almonds, 12g are monounstaturated

and
4g are polyunsaturated. It has a better nutritional profile than a

similar
serving of most cheeses if you're worried about fat.

That's rather what I thought, in terms of nuts.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg



  #35  
Old August 19th, 2004, 02:09 PM
Beverly
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"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:


Actually, I eat a single serving of almonds a few times a week as one of

my
5-6 meals a day and find they are very satisfying and tie me over very

well
until my next mealtime. Plus they're portable and easy to eat on the way

to
the gym. Studies have shown that adding almonds to a healthy diet
*promotes* weight loss.


Fair enough. I believe walnuts are alleged to have a similar effect,
no?

Walnuts and almonds are about the same. I believe the almond has slighthly
more fiber than the walnut. Some people just don't care for the taste of
some walnuts. I like them in recipes but don't particularly like them as a
snack.

We had several walnut tress in the neighborhood where I grew up. My friends
and I often gathered them and cracked them open for eating. Some of them
could be quite bitter!

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/b...ages/Nuts?open



I'm no expert, but I think removing fat is very traumatic to the body.
The body wants and actually needs fat.

It's actually as impossible to cut fat out completely as it is to cut
carbohydrates! One can, however, lower the amount one eats very

easily,
and there is medical evidence to prove that saturated fats are best
avoided as much as possible.


Of the 18g fat in a single serving of almonds, 12g are monounstaturated

and
4g are polyunsaturated. It has a better nutritional profile than a

similar
serving of most cheeses if you're worried about fat.

That's rather what I thought, in terms of nuts.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg



  #36  
Old August 19th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Annabel Smyth
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Mermaid wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

Thanks everyone for all of the information. I also have a problem with
because we are so busy with activities I don't cook at home much anymore.
Or if I do it has to be a quickie and my husband is very picky at what
he will eat. So that is my predicament. I eat many things and love veggies.
But rarely will I fix something just for myself. Is there a book someone
knows of that might help me in my situation?

In the UK I'd recommend "Rosemary Conley's Hip and Thigh Diet" (quite
why hip and thigh, I don't know) for a basic guide to low-fat eating.
There is the classic Dean Ornish's "Eat More, weigh less", and "Fit or
Fat", which may or may not be by the same author. If you're interested
in low carbohydrate, try Robert Atkins' book which is piled high in
every supermarket, bookshop and any other outlet you can care to think
of! Or buy a slimming magazine from the newsagent and look at some of
the books advertised there.

One good thing, I started working on the Nordic track last night. I did 30
min
at 2.5 mph. And I went to sleep like a baby. I was afraid it might cause me
to
wake up more and keep me from sleeping but it actually made me tired enough
to be sleepy. Maybe that is the answer. Mornings are out of the question.

You certainly aren't required to work out in the mornings unless that
happens to suit your personal metabolism/style! The point is as long as
you do something that works for you.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg

  #37  
Old August 19th, 2004, 02:14 PM
Annabel Smyth
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Mermaid wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

Thanks everyone for all of the information. I also have a problem with
because we are so busy with activities I don't cook at home much anymore.
Or if I do it has to be a quickie and my husband is very picky at what
he will eat. So that is my predicament. I eat many things and love veggies.
But rarely will I fix something just for myself. Is there a book someone
knows of that might help me in my situation?

In the UK I'd recommend "Rosemary Conley's Hip and Thigh Diet" (quite
why hip and thigh, I don't know) for a basic guide to low-fat eating.
There is the classic Dean Ornish's "Eat More, weigh less", and "Fit or
Fat", which may or may not be by the same author. If you're interested
in low carbohydrate, try Robert Atkins' book which is piled high in
every supermarket, bookshop and any other outlet you can care to think
of! Or buy a slimming magazine from the newsagent and look at some of
the books advertised there.

One good thing, I started working on the Nordic track last night. I did 30
min
at 2.5 mph. And I went to sleep like a baby. I was afraid it might cause me
to
wake up more and keep me from sleeping but it actually made me tired enough
to be sleepy. Maybe that is the answer. Mornings are out of the question.

You certainly aren't required to work out in the mornings unless that
happens to suit your personal metabolism/style! The point is as long as
you do something that works for you.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg

  #38  
Old August 19th, 2004, 02:16 PM
Beverly
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"Mermaid" wrote in message
...
Thanks everyone for all of the information. I also have a problem with
because we are so busy with activities I don't cook at home much anymore.
Or if I do it has to be a quickie and my husband is very picky at what
he will eat. So that is my predicament. I eat many things and love

veggies.
But rarely will I fix something just for myself. Is there a book someone
knows of that might help me in my situation?


What type book are you wanting - cookbook, etc?

How about cooking ahead and freezing individual servings for yourself and
the family? I do this with some types of soups. Vegetable soup is great
frozen and easy to pop in the mircrowave. You can cook and freeze chicken
breasts, steak, etc for adding to a quick salad. I recently found a recipe
in the SBD cookbook for vegetable quiche cups. You prepare them in muffin
cups, freeze and pop in the microwave for a great breakfast.



One good thing, I started working on the Nordic track last night. I did 30
min
at 2.5 mph. And I went to sleep like a baby. I was afraid it might cause

me
to
wake up more and keep me from sleeping but it actually made me tired

enough
to be sleepy. Maybe that is the answer. Mornings are out of the question.

Thanks,
Paulette


"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
Mermaid wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:

In trying to select my new eating program. I have a question. Which is

more
important?
Counting calories or fat grams? I have seen people go both ways. I have

some
cellulite and would like to deal with that too.

Both, and! The *only* way to lose weight is to burn more calories than
you take in. This means eating less and exercising more. However,
while protein and carbohydrate each have 4 calories (Kilocalories,
actually) per gramme, fat has 9. So if you can cut excess fat out of
your diet, it's a relatively easy and painless way to cut calories. It
is sensible to allow yourself a little "healthy" fat, such as olive oil,
or to take, as I do, a fish-oil supplement daily (keeps my joints
supple!), but if you cut out butter, margarine, lard, cheese (as much as
possible), egg yolks (again, as much as possible), and when you buy
prepared foods, only buy those that claim to have less than 5 grammes of
fat per 100 grammes of product, you will do well.

However, one caveat. When low fat eating became very popular, about
8-10 years ago, the market was flooded with "healthy" low-fat products.
Unfortunately, many of these products replaced the fat with sugar, or
artificial flavourings, to make up for the absence of fat. You would do
better, whatever way you choose to cut calories, to prepare as much of
your own food as possible, and to buy as little ready-made food as you
can. It is easy to make a fruit-cake and substitute pureed prunes for
the margarine, for instance, and you can even cut the sugar a little as
the prunes are sweet already. But a bought cake may have *extra* sugar
to make up for the lack of fat. Sigh.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg





  #39  
Old August 19th, 2004, 02:16 PM
Beverly
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"Mermaid" wrote in message
...
Thanks everyone for all of the information. I also have a problem with
because we are so busy with activities I don't cook at home much anymore.
Or if I do it has to be a quickie and my husband is very picky at what
he will eat. So that is my predicament. I eat many things and love

veggies.
But rarely will I fix something just for myself. Is there a book someone
knows of that might help me in my situation?


What type book are you wanting - cookbook, etc?

How about cooking ahead and freezing individual servings for yourself and
the family? I do this with some types of soups. Vegetable soup is great
frozen and easy to pop in the mircrowave. You can cook and freeze chicken
breasts, steak, etc for adding to a quick salad. I recently found a recipe
in the SBD cookbook for vegetable quiche cups. You prepare them in muffin
cups, freeze and pop in the microwave for a great breakfast.



One good thing, I started working on the Nordic track last night. I did 30
min
at 2.5 mph. And I went to sleep like a baby. I was afraid it might cause

me
to
wake up more and keep me from sleeping but it actually made me tired

enough
to be sleepy. Maybe that is the answer. Mornings are out of the question.

Thanks,
Paulette


"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
Mermaid wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:

In trying to select my new eating program. I have a question. Which is

more
important?
Counting calories or fat grams? I have seen people go both ways. I have

some
cellulite and would like to deal with that too.

Both, and! The *only* way to lose weight is to burn more calories than
you take in. This means eating less and exercising more. However,
while protein and carbohydrate each have 4 calories (Kilocalories,
actually) per gramme, fat has 9. So if you can cut excess fat out of
your diet, it's a relatively easy and painless way to cut calories. It
is sensible to allow yourself a little "healthy" fat, such as olive oil,
or to take, as I do, a fish-oil supplement daily (keeps my joints
supple!), but if you cut out butter, margarine, lard, cheese (as much as
possible), egg yolks (again, as much as possible), and when you buy
prepared foods, only buy those that claim to have less than 5 grammes of
fat per 100 grammes of product, you will do well.

However, one caveat. When low fat eating became very popular, about
8-10 years ago, the market was flooded with "healthy" low-fat products.
Unfortunately, many of these products replaced the fat with sugar, or
artificial flavourings, to make up for the absence of fat. You would do
better, whatever way you choose to cut calories, to prepare as much of
your own food as possible, and to buy as little ready-made food as you
can. It is easy to make a fruit-cake and substitute pureed prunes for
the margarine, for instance, and you can even cut the sugar a little as
the prunes are sweet already. But a bought cake may have *extra* sugar
to make up for the lack of fat. Sigh.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg





  #40  
Old August 19th, 2004, 04:13 PM
Annabel Smyth
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Beverly wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004:

Walnuts and almonds are about the same. I believe the almond has slighthly
more fiber than the walnut. Some people just don't care for the taste of
some walnuts. I like them in recipes but don't particularly like them as a
snack.

Here, they are more easily obtained in-shell than almonds are,
especially at Christmas, where they are part of the traditional fare.
My father spends hours after Christmas dinner cracking nuts for those
who want them, usually walnuts and Brazil nuts.

We had several walnut tress in the neighborhood where I grew up. My friends
and I often gathered them and cracked them open for eating. Some of them
could be quite bitter!

How absolutely lovely - not the bitter ones, of course! I don't think
I've ever had fresh walnuts, although I have a vague memory of pickled
ones, which were delicious.

I have sometimes had really fresh cob nuts, though, which are heaven!
And, of course, sweet chestnuts, although they are not a true nut, and
are fat free, I believe.
--
Annabel - "Mrs Redboots"
90/88/80kg

 




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