Review: Bartles & Jaymes low carb....

Austin (Leander technically). The H-E-B's vary widely in LC (faux food if JC
is listening) products. Luckily one of the ones by me seems to like to try
new products out fairly regularly.

"Diane Ball" wrote in message
...
You mention HEB - are you in TX somewhere? I am in San Antonio.
Diane
"RT" wrote in message
gy.com...
They have Margarita and Strawberry flavors, at 3g (total not net)
apiece.
I
got the Margarita.

It tastes like a wine cooler, so I guess they achieved that...It's not
quite
close enough to the real margarita I've been missing, but a nice change
from
Ultra or the hard stuff...

Only $2.99 for a six pack at H-E-B.

It doesn't have nutritional info on it of course, so I can't verify, but
I
imagine it's not hard to add some artificial flavor/sweetener to a basic
alcohol base...

Richard
247/194/175 (53 lbs since Feb 15, 04)

I'm slowly bumping up as well, but being so "close" to goal I'm a little
wary of upping too fast and bumming out :-)

80 a day sounds reasonable for maintenance though from what I have read.

"Bev-Ann" wrote in message
...
Jenny, how many carbs/day are you on for your maintenance? I'm aiming for
80g/day. Is this realistic?

on Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:41:33 -0400, "Jenny"
wrote:

Bartender,

I'm into my fifth year of low carbing and I've put in a couple months
researching the science behind blood sugar response.

Drinking causes low carb dieters problems for a few reasons. One is
calories. One is that it stops fat burning. One is that when people get
tipsy they tend to lose control and eat things they shouldn't.

Moderation is excellent, but if you are eating 120 grams a day of carb
you
are on a moderate, not low carb, regimen and you better be very, very
careful with your fat intake because there is a bunch of research showing
very bad things happening to the cardiovascular systems of people on
moderate carb/high fat diets. As soon as carbs go over 100 gm a day, the
physiology changes. You're likely to see high post-meal triglycerides and
these in combination with high circulating free fatty acids are bad news.

This is one of the big problems with the low carb diet and a reason, I
believe, why doctors have problems with it. They see patients lose a lot
of
weight in the diet phase, but then continue to eat the very high fat
foods
when they are in an increasingly high carb maintenance phase which does
harm
health.

-----
Bev

I'm slowly bumping up as well, but being so "close" to goal I'm a little
wary of upping too fast and bumming out :-)

80 a day sounds reasonable for maintenance though from what I have read.

"Bev-Ann" wrote in message
...
Jenny, how many carbs/day are you on for your maintenance? I'm aiming for
80g/day. Is this realistic?

on Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:41:33 -0400, "Jenny"
wrote:

Bartender,

I'm into my fifth year of low carbing and I've put in a couple months
researching the science behind blood sugar response.

Drinking causes low carb dieters problems for a few reasons. One is
calories. One is that it stops fat burning. One is that when people get
tipsy they tend to lose control and eat things they shouldn't.

Moderation is excellent, but if you are eating 120 grams a day of carb
you
are on a moderate, not low carb, regimen and you better be very, very
careful with your fat intake because there is a bunch of research showing
very bad things happening to the cardiovascular systems of people on
moderate carb/high fat diets. As soon as carbs go over 100 gm a day, the
physiology changes. You're likely to see high post-meal triglycerides and
these in combination with high circulating free fatty acids are bad news.

This is one of the big problems with the low carb diet and a reason, I
believe, why doctors have problems with it. They see patients lose a lot
of
weight in the diet phase, but then continue to eat the very high fat
foods
when they are in an increasingly high carb maintenance phase which does
harm
health.

-----
Bev

I'm going very slowly too. I add 5g carbs/day and stay at the level for 2
weeks. Then I'll add another 5g carbs/day for another 2 weeks and so on.
I tried adding 10g carbs but felt like crap so this is what seems to work
for me.

on Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:53:09 GMT, "RT"
wrote:

I'm slowly bumping up as well, but being so "close" to goal I'm a little
wary of upping too fast and bumming out :-)

80 a day sounds reasonable for maintenance though from what I have read.

-----
Bev

I'm in my mid-40's, not diabetic and still losing weight on between 1600
and 1800 calories/day, although it has slowed to about 1/2 pound/week.

on Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:19:37 -0400, "Jenny"
wrote:

Bev,

But for maintenance I find that calories are MUCH more significant than carb
levels. I have to watch my carbs because of the need to control blood sugar,
but even when I eat a lot of carbs, I have to keep my daily calorie total no
higher than 1600 or I will start to regain. That low number is partly
because I'm in my mid 50s, an age at which the female metabolism really
wants to get fat. It is also because I am maintaining a 30 lb loss and my
body has become a bit too efficient. When I was in my 30s I used to be able
to lose weight pretty easily and maintain on 2200 calories a day. But weight
loss at my age is a whole lot tougher.

My maintenance carb level tends to rise and fall. I'm in my second year of
maintenance now and over the year I've eaten anywhere from 40 to 120 grams a
day, so the average is around 80 but there is a lot of fluctuation.

Typically I'll eat a low carb breakfast and lunch and then have a higher
carb dinner if we are going out. If my carbs are up for a few days, I stay
away from high fat low carb treats like cheese and nuts or low carb ice
cream. If I'm keeping my carbs closer to 60 or 70 grams, I eat them.

Because I have diabetes, my basic ground rule is that my blood sugar should
not go over 140 mg/dl at 1 hour. Medication can make it possible to bump up
the carb intake without going over that limit, which is why my carb levels
are higher than they used to be. But if I really overdo it the blood sugar
goes up and I feel like crap. So I avoid that.

-----
Bev

RT"

writes:

80 a day sounds reasonable for maintenance though from what I have read.

If that works for you. In Atkins for Life, he gives maintenance menu plans for
people eating 45, 60, 80, and 100 carbs per day (I think -- the book is on
another floor and I'm not going to run fetch it to verify). I've found the
sample menus helpful, in that I can compare my own diet with them and see how
similar it is. I'm at about 90 carbs per day on maintenance, and the 80 and
100 carb menu plans would look good (and "reasonable") even before I went
low-carb.

If I plan on having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I just add those
carbs back in. Prior to going low-carb, I had wine with dinner most nights,
averaging a drink a day. While losing, I couldn't handle alcohol very well and
thought I'd never be able to have wine again. But on maintenance, I'm back to
maybe 2-3 drinks per week, and it seems to work pretty well.

Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04

RT"

writes:

80 a day sounds reasonable for maintenance though from what I have read.

If that works for you. In Atkins for Life, he gives maintenance menu plans for
people eating 45, 60, 80, and 100 carbs per day (I think -- the book is on
another floor and I'm not going to run fetch it to verify). I've found the
sample menus helpful, in that I can compare my own diet with them and see how
similar it is. I'm at about 90 carbs per day on maintenance, and the 80 and
100 carb menu plans would look good (and "reasonable") even before I went
low-carb.

If I plan on having a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, I just add those
carbs back in. Prior to going low-carb, I had wine with dinner most nights,
averaging a drink a day. While losing, I couldn't handle alcohol very well and
thought I'd never be able to have wine again. But on maintenance, I'm back to
maybe 2-3 drinks per week, and it seems to work pretty well.

Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04