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If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. What I didn't know at the time, but surely do now, is that despite the fact that you've forked out for the books, you still have to sign up for the meetings just to work out what your target of points should be. This strikes me as a little unfare, hence I'm disgruntled. I don't want to pay a sign up fee just to get my program straight, when I've already paid a lot for the books. Anyone know any way of identifying what my points target should be without have to pay up a whole other wod of cash to WW, which, may I say, seems pretty pricey from where I'm sitting? Thanks. |
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This site should help with the points. I can tell you the first entry for
less than 150 pounds should read 18-23 and not 8-23....looks like a typo. http://www.safehaven.us/weight_watchers_food_points.htm "Fludge" wrote in message ... Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. What I didn't know at the time, but surely do now, is that despite the fact that you've forked out for the books, you still have to sign up for the meetings just to work out what your target of points should be. This strikes me as a little unfare, hence I'm disgruntled. I don't want to pay a sign up fee just to get my program straight, when I've already paid a lot for the books. Anyone know any way of identifying what my points target should be without have to pay up a whole other wod of cash to WW, which, may I say, seems pretty pricey from where I'm sitting? Thanks. |
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"Fludge" wrote in message
... Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. What I didn't know at the time, but surely do now, is that despite the fact that you've forked out for the books, you still have to sign up for the meetings just to work out what your target of points should be. This strikes me as a little unfare, hence I'm disgruntled. I don't want to pay a sign up fee just to get my program straight, when I've already paid a lot for the books. Anyone know any way of identifying what my points target should be without have to pay up a whole other wod of cash to WW, which, may I say, seems pretty pricey from where I'm sitting? Thanks. You might want to post this question to alt.support.diet.weigh****chers. The target range is based on your weight. |
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Fludge wrote:
Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. I want to say this kindly, and I'm using a kind tone of voice, so bear that in mind when you read my stark print. No book will help you lower your calorie intake. You're going to have to do it yourself. Dally |
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Dally wrote:
Fludge wrote: Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. I want to say this kindly, and I'm using a kind tone of voice, so bear that in mind when you read my stark print. No book will help you lower your calorie intake. You're going to have to do it yourself. I was thinking the same thing. Except for the kind part. Dally |
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"Ignoramus15341" wrote in message ... In article , Fludge wrote: Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. What I didn't know That said, can you use a little ingenuity to compute points and target by yourself? My understanding is that WW "points" are calories in disguise. Not just calories in disguise. They also include fat and fiber. The OLD formula for WW points (in 1999 or 2000 or so) was pts = (calories/50) - (Fiber/5) + (Fat/12) The new formula has a limit for fiber, and, for all I know, they may have changed the formula lately. You should be able to see above that yeah, calories do play a large part, but if you have something high in calories, but also high in fiber, it will bring down the point value. Thus, in theory, making people eat more fiber rich foods. In theory, of course... Surely you can figure out how many calories you should be eating to lose weight, by yourself. What is "target"? The target weight? How tall are you and are you male or female? i |
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I'm the official ASDWW welcomer. Here's the notice I post for newbies over
there. You may find some of the information in it useful. -- Julie. 93.5/72.7/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg 205.7/159.9/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement. Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post. In the meantime, here's our FAQ: http://www.didian.com/asdww/ our welcome notice: http://www.geocities.com/welcomenotice/index.html Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life (Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in Amberle3's Challenges: HHH - Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/hhh.htm NYNY - New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/nyny.htm THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/thtp.htm RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge: http://www.angelfire.com/me4/travelgirl/rafl.htm Other acronyms: http://www.wwlissa.com/dwlz100+/100+acronyms.htm Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce - How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water. To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ... http://www.zythra.com/downloads/points.exe The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be used on the day they are earned. If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into. There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system. Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03 Please note that if you live in onther coutries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above can handle all of these programs. Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try if you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional. Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works! "Fludge" wrote in message ... Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. What I didn't know at the time, but surely do now, is that despite the fact that you've forked out for the books, you still have to sign up for the meetings just to work out what your target of points should be. This strikes me as a little unfare, hence I'm disgruntled. I don't want to pay a sign up fee just to get my program straight, when I've already paid a lot for the books. Anyone know any way of identifying what my points target should be without have to pay up a whole other wod of cash to WW, which, may I say, seems pretty pricey from where I'm sitting? Thanks. |
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I've been maintaining at +/- 1kg or so for the last three months. I've
found it surprisingly easy. The good eating habits learnt over a year and a half of going to WW meetings has obviously rubbed off. That and keeping up with my exercise program which I've finally realised has to be for life, not just for weightloss. -- Julie. 93.5/72.7/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg 205.7/159.9/162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb "Ignoramus30622" wrote in message ... Julie, good job on the weight loss. How are you maintaining? i In article , JulieB wrote: I'm the official ASDWW welcomer. Here's the notice I post for newbies over there. You may find some of the information in it useful. |
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if you tell me ur start weight and ur height i have the books and i could
tell you ur point range if you like angie ps i do weight watchers as well and have lost 30lbs so far "Fludge" wrote in message ... Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. What I didn't know at the time, but surely do now, is that despite the fact that you've forked out for the books, you still have to sign up for the meetings just to work out what your target of points should be. This strikes me as a little unfare, hence I'm disgruntled. I don't want to pay a sign up fee just to get my program straight, when I've already paid a lot for the books. Anyone know any way of identifying what my points target should be without have to pay up a whole other wod of cash to WW, which, may I say, seems pretty pricey from where I'm sitting? Thanks. |
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I'm male, that's the first thing to clear up, just in case it makes a
difference. Other than that, 5ft 11inches and currently about 168lbs. Thanks. "Anglea Woollcombe" wrote in message m... if you tell me ur start weight and ur height i have the books and i could tell you ur point range if you like angie ps i do weight watchers as well and have lost 30lbs so far "Fludge" wrote in message ... Hi. If this is way out of line, then lambast away, but I'm knew to these things, so be gentle. I went out after the holidays and bought two weight watchers books thinking it would help me lower my calory intake. What I didn't know at the time, but surely do now, is that despite the fact that you've forked out for the books, you still have to sign up for the meetings just to work out what your target of points should be. This strikes me as a little unfare, hence I'm disgruntled. I don't want to pay a sign up fee just to get my program straight, when I've already paid a lot for the books. Anyone know any way of identifying what my points target should be without have to pay up a whole other wod of cash to WW, which, may I say, seems pretty pricey from where I'm sitting? Thanks. |
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