I am fat and I can ride a bike for 2-4 miles

Jason Earl wrote:

"Real BBW" writes:

KY wrote:


Fat and fit is not a myth. I would ride a bike against any thin
person and keep up just fine. I ride at least two miles to the
grocery store or the coffee shop in my town almost every day. I
weigh around 240lbs. 5'10" tall

Fat and fit is not a myth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0leLrjA20xo

Are you kidding me? I saw no evidence whatsoever that the lady in
that spot was "fit" by any standard that I can think of. She
apparently can walk around under her own power, and she can manipulate
pool noodles and 1 lb. weights, but then so can just about anyone not
confined to a wheelchair.

Granted, "fit" is a relative term, and it is probably true that this
lady is somewhat more fit than before she started exercising.
However, at some point you have to say that a person is fit enough a
particular task. The lady in the spot is barely fit enough to get
around town by herself, but that's about the extent of her "fitness."
If the bar to be considered "fit" is lowered to the point where
fitness is defined as "being able to move under their own power" then
"fitness" becomes a much less worthy goal. The lady in that spot is
"fit" in the same sense that my little girl is a math genius because
she can count to 10. You just have to define "math genius" as anyone
who can count.

Don't get me wrong. Everyone has to start somewhere, and from my own
experience I know that going from fat and completely unfit to fat and
mostly unfit requires a great deal of effort. I just think that it is
counterproductive to set your fitness goals so ridiculously low. If
you redefine "fit" as being able to manipulate a pool noodle then
nearly everyone is fit, including people whose inactivity poses
serious health risks. Hooray, gold stars for everyone!

Jason

Lynn McAfee is a famous exercise instructor, you silly fat basher.

http://kellybliss.com/store/product_...hp?item_id=162


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/cp.01.html


http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/01...nce/index.html


http://www.radiancemagazine.com/issu..._99/truth.html

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On Jun 4, 2:24 pm, "KY" wrote:
Fat and fit is not a myth. I would ride a bike against any thin person and
keep up just fine. I ride at least two miles to the grocery store or the
coffee shop in my town almost every day. I weigh around 240lbs. 5'10" tall

I see fat people walking all the time and they are not out of breath or in a
scooter. I think the media and the helthcare system want the world to
believe being fat is a handicap and it isn't. Some extra weight doesn't hurt
at all as long as you are mobile and able to do what you want. Enough of the
negativity.

Ken Young

Well right. You see very thin people too who are short of breath often
from CPOD, congestive heart failure or other diease. Statistically
though, you are much more likely to be unhealthy if you are
overweight. The heavyweight weightlifters are often overweight too and
it isn't all muscle. They are probably not likely to drop dead of a
heart attack either, at least while they are young. I believe the
science which says overall it is healthier to stay within the medical
range for your weight. There will always be exceptions, but I think
with time (age), those exceptions become fewer and further between.
Those same weightlifters at 60 and weighing 350 pounds are not likely
to be able to jog 2 miles at my pace (I am also 60, but weight 138
lbs. and if they could they might drop dead at the end, although they
could still outlift me. Cycling, like weight lifting depends on
muscles and you are probably muscular as well as healthy for now. It
will likely catch up with you though. Lots of strong, muscular guys
drop dead with heart attacks....a lot more than the skinny ones. dkw

dooberheim wrote:

On Jun 5, 11:49 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Cubit" wrote in message

. net...

When I was 320 I was afraid physical activities could lead to
serious injuries. One fall from a bike could have broken several
bones, and God knows what else.

"Fat and fit?" Maybe, fat and strong, for the moment. However,
the odds are stacked against you for things like diabetes and
other health problems.

I guess, to make my case, I should research the life expectancy
of Sumo wrestlers.

That would be interesting to hear about.


Nippon Eiseigaku Zasshi. 1995 Aug;50(3):730-6.


[Risk factors for mortality and mortality rate of sumo wrestlers]

[Article in Japanese]

Hoshi A, Inaba Y.

Department of Epidemiology and Environmental Health, Juntendo
University School of Medicine, Tokyo, Japan.

We compared the mortality rate of sumo wrestlers with that of the
contemporaneous Japanese male population, and inferred the usefulness
of an index for predicting longevity in sumo wrestlers. The
standardized mortality ratios (SMR) for sumo wrestlers were very high
in each period, and also high for ages from 35 to 74. Cox's
proportional hazards model analysis revealed that the variables in
"nyuumaku" entry year and BMI were statistically significant (p
0.05) factors in mortality. In the survival curves, the lower BMI
group had good life expectancy compared with the higher BMI group. In
conclusion, the higher rate of mortality in sumo wrestlers seems to be
due to the markedly higher rate of mortality from 35 to 74 years old.
In sumo wrestlers, also, this study provides evidence that the higher
overweight groups have substantially higher risks for mortality.

Publication Types:
English Abstract

PMID: 7474495 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


DK

This is a study that was funded by the diet industry and the data was
twisted for the desired outcome. Sumo wrestlers, being fat and fit,
have a very high life expectancy.

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On Jun 6, 5:18 am, "Real BBW" wrote:
dooberheim wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:49 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Cubit" wrote in message

.net...

When I was 320 I was afraid physical activities could lead to
serious injuries. One fall from a bike could have broken several
bones, and God knows what else.

"Fat and fit?" Maybe, fat and strong, for the moment. However,
the odds are stacked against you for things like diabetes and
other health problems.

I guess, to make my case, I should research the life expectancy
of Sumo wrestlers.

That would be interesting to hear about.

Nippon Eiseigaku Zasshi. 1995 Aug;50(3):730-6.

[Risk factors for mortality and mortality rate of sumo wrestlers]

[Article in Japanese]

Hoshi A, Inaba Y.

Department of Epidemiology and Environmental Health, Juntendo
University School of Medicine, Tokyo, Japan.

We compared the mortality rate of sumo wrestlers with that of the
contemporaneous Japanese male population, and inferred the usefulness
of an index for predicting longevity in sumo wrestlers. The
standardized mortality ratios (SMR) for sumo wrestlers were very high
in each period, and also high for ages from 35 to 74. Cox's
proportional hazards model analysis revealed that the variables in
"nyuumaku" entry year and BMI were statistically significant (p
0.05) factors in mortality. In the survival curves, the lower BMI
group had good life expectancy compared with the higher BMI group. In
conclusion, the higher rate of mortality in sumo wrestlers seems to be
due to the markedly higher rate of mortality from 35 to 74 years old.
In sumo wrestlers, also, this study provides evidence that the higher
overweight groups have substantially higher risks for mortality.

Publication Types:
English Abstract

PMID: 7474495 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

DK

This is a study that was funded by the diet industry and the data was
twisted for the desired outcome.

Medical profession = diet industry? Evidence of said twisting?

Sumo wrestlers, being fat and fit,
have a very high life expectancy.

Evidence?

On Jun 5, 9:24 pm, "Gooserider" wrote:
"KY" wrote in message

...

Fat and fit is not a myth. I would ride a bike against any thin person and
keep up just fine. I ride at least two miles to the grocery store or the
coffee shop in my town almost every day. I weigh around 240lbs. 5'10" tall

I see fat people walking all the time and they are not out of breath or in
a scooter. I think the media and the helthcare system want the world to
believe being fat is a handicap and it isn't. Some extra weight doesn't
hurt at all as long as you are mobile and able to do what you want. Enough
of the negativity.

I'm a cyclist, OK. Riding a bicycle can be fantastic exercise----or it can
be easier than walking. I'm not impressed. Now if you said you were riding
20 I would say you have a point. 2-4 miles on a bike is what, 20 minutes?

About that. My ride to church on Sundays comes to 3.8 miles in 22
minutes, but I have hills on the route.

Incidentally, I'm 247 pounds, 6 feet tall, and can ride 40 miles at a
time, and I don't consider myself fit. The original poster is sadly
self-deluded.

In article ,
"Real BBW" wrote:

This is a study that was funded by the diet industry and the data was
twisted for the desired outcome. Sumo wrestlers, being fat and fit,
have a very high life expectancy.

Site please?

I'm really curious about that one.
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"Gooserider" wrote in message
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I'm a cyclist, OK. Riding a bicycle can be fantastic exercise----or it can
be easier than walking. I'm not impressed. Now if you said you were riding
20 I would say you have a point. 2-4 miles on a bike is what, 20 minutes?

I ride 26 miles round trip to and from work. I do it in 1 hour 45 minutes. I
weigh 312. I am not even nearly as fit as I want to be...yet. This
assumption that you can get out of your chair and go 2-4 miles on a bike
makes you a healthy overweight person is absurd.

Joe 357/312/220 (or less)

I googled "sumo wrestlers, life expectancy" and got, for the most part, the
same info as posted by dooberheim. You must have found your info elsewhere.
Perhaps you could post a link to your info. I would be glad to post several
links to mine, if people do not want to google it for themselves.


"Real BBW" wrote in message
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dooberheim wrote:

On Jun 5, 11:49 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Cubit" wrote in message

. net...

When I was 320 I was afraid physical activities could lead to
serious injuries. One fall from a bike could have broken several
bones, and God knows what else.

"Fat and fit?" Maybe, fat and strong, for the moment. However,
the odds are stacked against you for things like diabetes and
other health problems.

I guess, to make my case, I should research the life expectancy
of Sumo wrestlers.

That would be interesting to hear about.


Nippon Eiseigaku Zasshi. 1995 Aug;50(3):730-6.


[Risk factors for mortality and mortality rate of sumo wrestlers]

[Article in Japanese]

Hoshi A, Inaba Y.

Department of Epidemiology and Environmental Health, Juntendo
University School of Medicine, Tokyo, Japan.

We compared the mortality rate of sumo wrestlers with that of the
contemporaneous Japanese male population, and inferred the usefulness
of an index for predicting longevity in sumo wrestlers. The
standardized mortality ratios (SMR) for sumo wrestlers were very high
in each period, and also high for ages from 35 to 74. Cox's
proportional hazards model analysis revealed that the variables in
"nyuumaku" entry year and BMI were statistically significant (p
0.05) factors in mortality. In the survival curves, the lower BMI
group had good life expectancy compared with the higher BMI group. In
conclusion, the higher rate of mortality in sumo wrestlers seems to be
due to the markedly higher rate of mortality from 35 to 74 years old.
In sumo wrestlers, also, this study provides evidence that the higher
overweight groups have substantially higher risks for mortality.

Publication Types:
English Abstract

PMID: 7474495 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


DK

This is a study that was funded by the diet industry and the data was
twisted for the desired outcome. Sumo wrestlers, being fat and fit,
have a very high life expectancy.

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"The Historian" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jun 6, 5:18 am, "Real BBW" wrote:
dooberheim wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:49 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
"Cubit" wrote in message

.net...

When I was 320 I was afraid physical activities could lead to
serious injuries. One fall from a bike could have broken several
bones, and God knows what else.

"Fat and fit?" Maybe, fat and strong, for the moment. However,
the odds are stacked against you for things like diabetes and
other health problems.

I guess, to make my case, I should research the life expectancy
of Sumo wrestlers.

That would be interesting to hear about.

Nippon Eiseigaku Zasshi. 1995 Aug;50(3):730-6.

[Risk factors for mortality and mortality rate of sumo wrestlers]

[Article in Japanese]

Hoshi A, Inaba Y.

Department of Epidemiology and Environmental Health, Juntendo
University School of Medicine, Tokyo, Japan.

We compared the mortality rate of sumo wrestlers with that of the
contemporaneous Japanese male population, and inferred the usefulness
of an index for predicting longevity in sumo wrestlers. The
standardized mortality ratios (SMR) for sumo wrestlers were very high
in each period, and also high for ages from 35 to 74. Cox's
proportional hazards model analysis revealed that the variables in
"nyuumaku" entry year and BMI were statistically significant (p
0.05) factors in mortality. In the survival curves, the lower BMI
group had good life expectancy compared with the higher BMI group. In
conclusion, the higher rate of mortality in sumo wrestlers seems to be
due to the markedly higher rate of mortality from 35 to 74 years old.
In sumo wrestlers, also, this study provides evidence that the higher
overweight groups have substantially higher risks for mortality.

Publication Types:
English Abstract

PMID: 7474495 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

DK

This is a study that was funded by the diet industry and the data was
twisted for the desired outcome.

Medical profession = diet industry? Evidence of said twisting?

Sumo wrestlers, being fat and fit,
have a very high life expectancy.

Evidence?

all of the blurbs I've heard regarding life expectancy of sumo wrestlers put
them around 55... a good 20 yrs less than average people.

big whoop. 2 miles on a bike is NOTHING. Unless you've got like an 8%
grade or something. Can you run 2 miles? I didn't think so.