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Old July 26th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Annabel Smyth
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I *know* that every diet ever invented, whether it is low fat, low
carbohydrate, low calorie or low-anything-else says that You Must Eat
Breakfast.

However, I'm finding quite the easiest way to drop my calorie intake is
to not eat breakfast. This morning I frankly forgot! I found I was on
my way to the supermarket before I remembered I hadn't eaten anything
and, by the time I came home again, it was too late, and nearly
lunch-time, or at least nearly time to make a batch of ABC soup
(Alliums, broccoli and cabbage) (for recipe, see
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/Recipes/ABC.html)

On Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday mornings, we are at the ice rink by
7.00 or shortly thereafter; I simply can't eat that early, but usually
eat a banana before I get on the ice. And, increasingly, I'm finding
that this lasts me all morning. Can anybody see any reason why this
won't do?

The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes eat
salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme. But why
pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index, so Bad For
You. Wouldn't brown rice be better?
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Old July 26th, 2004, 02:48 PM
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"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
I *know* that every diet ever invented, whether it is low fat, low
carbohydrate, low calorie or low-anything-else says that You Must Eat
Breakfast.

However, I'm finding quite the easiest way to drop my calorie intake is
to not eat breakfast. This morning I frankly forgot! I found I was on
my way to the supermarket before I remembered I hadn't eaten anything
and, by the time I came home again, it was too late, and nearly
lunch-time, or at least nearly time to make a batch of ABC soup
(Alliums, broccoli and cabbage) (for recipe, see
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/Recipes/ABC.html)

On Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday mornings, we are at the ice rink by
7.00 or shortly thereafter; I simply can't eat that early, but usually
eat a banana before I get on the ice. And, increasingly, I'm finding
that this lasts me all morning. Can anybody see any reason why this
won't do?

The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes eat
salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme. But why
pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index, so Bad For
You. Wouldn't brown rice be better?
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 18 July 2004


Your soup recipe sounds good. I might have to give it a try. Do you know
if it can be frozen?

Here's an article on carb-loading. It's done mainly for endurance events.
I think most of us would be better sticking to the good carbs in our diets.
I do a lot of bike riding and I always eat the same breakfast before a ride
as I do on regular days. I stick with the oatmeal, protein powder and
ground flax seed. I do carry an energy bar with me just in case I need it.

http://www.the-athletes-edge.com/cgi..._happening.cgi

If the banana satisfies you I see no reason to eat additional food. It does
help to keep the metabolism working correctly when you spread the food
intake out over the day. I find I need to be up for a couple hours before I
eat breakfast. I'm one of those people who has to have a cup of coffee
firstg

Beverly



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Old July 26th, 2004, 02:55 PM
rosie read and post
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dr. atkins use to encourage folks to ONLY eat when hungry.
so when i am hungry, i eat.
(usually that is NOT at the typical breakfast time)

rosie
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"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
: I *know* that every diet ever invented, whether it is low fat, low
: carbohydrate, low calorie or low-anything-else says that You Must
Eat
: Breakfast.
:
: However, I'm finding quite the easiest way to drop my calorie
intake is
: to not eat breakfast. This morning I frankly forgot! I found I
was on
: my way to the supermarket before I remembered I hadn't eaten
anything
: and, by the time I came home again, it was too late, and nearly
: lunch-time, or at least nearly time to make a batch of ABC soup
: (Alliums, broccoli and cabbage) (for recipe, see
: http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/Recipes/ABC.html)
:
: On Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday mornings, we are at the ice rink
by
: 7.00 or shortly thereafter; I simply can't eat that early, but
usually
: eat a banana before I get on the ice. And, increasingly, I'm
finding
: that this lasts me all morning. Can anybody see any reason why
this
: won't do?
:
: The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top
athletes eat
: salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme.
But why
: pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index, so Bad
For
: You. Wouldn't brown rice be better?
: --
: Annabel Smyth
:
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
: Website updated 18 July 2004


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Old July 26th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Annabel Smyth
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 09:48:51, Beverly wrote:

Your soup recipe sounds good. I might have to give it a try. Do you know
if it can be frozen?

I don't see why not! I have never tried, but I expect it could be.
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Old July 26th, 2004, 03:13 PM
Annabel Smyth
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 09:48:51, Beverly wrote:

Your soup recipe sounds good. I might have to give it a try. Do you know
if it can be frozen?

I don't see why not! I have never tried, but I expect it could be.
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Website updated 18 July 2004
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Old July 26th, 2004, 03:15 PM
Annabel Smyth
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 13:42:29, Ignoramus19431
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I had asked:

The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes
eat salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme.
But why pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index,
so Bad For You. Wouldn't brown rice be better?


Are you an athlete?

Are you performing strenuous exercise? (say, running 10 miles in the
morning to keep in shape and get in the mood for the day full of real
exercise)

If not, then you should not eat like one.

I fail to see what this has to do with the question I asked. I asked
whether pasta was a high-glycemic food, which is what I had thought it
was. If you don't know the answer, please don't go off into some sort
of rant. FYI I am an ice-skater, and practice at least 4 days/week for
up to 3 hours at a time; at 51, that is probably enough right now.
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Annabel Smyth
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Website updated 18 July 2004
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Old July 26th, 2004, 03:15 PM
Annabel Smyth
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 13:42:29, Ignoramus19431
wrote:

I had asked:

The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes
eat salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme.
But why pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index,
so Bad For You. Wouldn't brown rice be better?


Are you an athlete?

Are you performing strenuous exercise? (say, running 10 miles in the
morning to keep in shape and get in the mood for the day full of real
exercise)

If not, then you should not eat like one.

I fail to see what this has to do with the question I asked. I asked
whether pasta was a high-glycemic food, which is what I had thought it
was. If you don't know the answer, please don't go off into some sort
of rant. FYI I am an ice-skater, and practice at least 4 days/week for
up to 3 hours at a time; at 51, that is probably enough right now.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 18 July 2004
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Old July 26th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Annabel Smyth
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 15:14:03, Ignoramus19431
wrote:

try this link

http://www.glycemicindex.com/

Pasta: 45
Brown Rice: 66


Thanks.

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Old July 27th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Chris Braun
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On 26 Jul 2004 13:42:29 GMT, Ignoramus19431
wrote:


The other question is this: we are forever hearing that top athletes
eat salad, pasta, chicken and fish, and permutations on that theme.
But why pasta? I thought it was supposed to have a high GI index,
so Bad For You. Wouldn't brown rice be better?


Are you an athlete?

Are you performing strenuous exercise? (say, running 10 miles in the
morning to keep in shape and get in the mood for the day full of real
exercise)


I've never found the concept of GI index to have any weight-loss
relevance for me. Others' experience may differ.

BTW, just last night I read the new issue of Hers Magazine (from
Muscle & Fitness, I believe). The whole issue was about how women
Olympians train and eat -- fascinating stuff. There was a
particularly interesting article about timing one's meals to fit with
one's activities.

Chris
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Old July 27th, 2004, 03:26 AM
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On 27 Jul 2004 00:49:23 GMT, Ignoramus19431
wrote:

I've never found the concept of GI index to have any weight-loss
relevance for me. Others' experience may differ.


Are you saying that GI is not a good measurement, or that for you, it
does not matter if you eat 100 calories from sugar vs, say, 100
calories from fat, as far as your satiety is concerned?


It doesn't seem to have any significance from any perspective for me.
But it isn't just about fat vs. sugar; there are more weird
differences -- like cherries are really low and watermelon really
high, and lima beans are way lower than fava beans, and rice bran is
way lower than oat bran. I certainly don't experience any difference
in satiety from eating one of these than the other. For that matter,
I've never noticed a difference in satiety between the same number of
calories from sugar as from fat. If anything, I'd probably feel more
satieted eating 170 calories worth of cereal or potato than 170
calories worth of peanuts, due to the greater bulk.

But I think the more significant argument made in favor of eating low
GI foods is that because they presumably raise blood sugar much less
than the higher GI foods, avoiding carb cravings a few hours later.
As I've said before, I've just never noticed this side effect. (As an
example, both days this weekend I ate far too many sweets at lunch.
And both days I didn't get hungry again for anything until 8-9 hours
later. And then it definitely was not for sweets or other carbs.)

Some athletes I know limit carb intake (though most talk about
"healthy" vs. "unhealthy" carbs, not specifically about GI index).
Others eat carbs freely. Almost all eat carbs before a competitive
event. (One reason for this, apart from a quicker energy hit, is that
digesting carbs is easier on most people's stomachs than digesting
fats or proteins.) I only worry about carb content to the extent that
I want to get some reasonable balance of nutrients and a somewhat
greater than average level of protein, so need to spend my calories
accordingly.


BTW, just last night I read the new issue of Hers Magazine (from
Muscle & Fitness, I believe). The whole issue was about how women
Olympians train and eat -- fascinating stuff. There was a
particularly interesting article about timing one's meals to fit
with one's activities.


Olympians who compete in aerobic or anaerobic sports?


A mix. Offhand, the ones I remember reading about competed in
swimming (short and long distance), running (from sprint to marathon),
triathlon, gymnastics, wrestling (I didn't know women did this),
weighlifting, cycling, water polo, synchronized swim, softball, and
pole vault. Some amazing stuff -- the marathoner runs 10-24 miles in
the morning, then another 4-6 before dinner. She also lifts weights 3
days a week.

Chris
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