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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:35:10 GMT, DZ wrote:

Faith IS about sanity and consistency (I'm not a believer, which just
makes everything more complicated).

As an unbeliever, the faith I speak of is unknown to you.


Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

DZ wrote in message

DRS wrote:
Full Mu_n wrote in message
he realizes that there is
absolutely no scientific evidence of the existence of God.

Neither Chung nor I need scientific proof. Faith is not resolved
logically and your insistence on God meeting your defining terms is
what the definition of Pride is all about.

No, it's the definition of sanity. Chung made a claim of empirical
fact despite the fact that he has exactly zero evidence to support
his claim. We'd be fools to take him seriously.

Faith IS about sanity and consistency (I'm not a believer, which just

Religious faith is fundamentally insane. It expects you to believe the
impossible for no good reason based on a mixture of threats and promises
which have no substance.

makes everything more complicated). There are smart and well adjusted
people who do genetics using evolutionary models and believe in
Creation of species at the same time. Depends on which hat you're
wearing at a time. This is neither contradictory nor dishonest.

It is absolutely both! Science starts from the evidence. Creationism
starts from an unquestionable premise and ignores all of the overwhelming
evidence against it. Creationism is a pack of lies from start to finish.
You cannot be a scientist and a Creationist at the same time because
believing in Creationism forces you to contradict the fundamentals of
science itself.

But you already knew that and just wanted to be provocative.

See http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/cre-error.html for a more a more
detailed destruction of the absurd notion that science and Creationism are
in any way compatible. See the many other links on Creationism on that site
for a complete demolition of Creationism per se.

Religious liars like you just make me hate religion more than ever.

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Full Mu_n wrote in message

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:35:10 GMT, DZ wrote:

Faith IS about sanity and consistency (I'm not a believer, which just
makes everything more complicated).

As an unbeliever, the faith I speak of is unknown to you.

I know it. It's a heap of ****.

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Full Mu_n wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:35:10 GMT, DZ wrote:

Faith IS about sanity and consistency (I'm not a believer, which just
makes everything more complicated).

As an unbeliever, the faith I speak of is unknown to you.

I already suspected this could be the case.

DZ

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"DRS" wrote in message
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DZ wrote in message

DRS wrote:
Full Mu_n wrote in message
he realizes that there is
absolutely no scientific evidence of the existence of God.

Neither Chung nor I need scientific proof. Faith is not resolved
logically and your insistence on God meeting your defining terms is
what the definition of Pride is all about.

No, it's the definition of sanity. Chung made a claim of empirical
fact despite the fact that he has exactly zero evidence to support
his claim. We'd be fools to take him seriously.

Faith IS about sanity and consistency (I'm not a believer, which just

Religious faith is fundamentally insane. It expects you to believe the
impossible for no good reason based on a mixture of threats and promises
which have no substance.

makes everything more complicated). There are smart and well adjusted
people who do genetics using evolutionary models and believe in
Creation of species at the same time. Depends on which hat you're
wearing at a time. This is neither contradictory nor dishonest.

It is absolutely both! Science starts from the evidence. Creationism
starts from an unquestionable premise and ignores all of the overwhelming
evidence against it. Creationism is a pack of lies from start to finish.
You cannot be a scientist and a Creationist at the same time because
believing in Creationism forces you to contradict the fundamentals of
science itself.

But you already knew that and just wanted to be provocative.

See http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/cre-error.html for a more a more
detailed destruction of the absurd notion that science and Creationism are
in any way compatible. See the many other links on Creationism on that si
te
for a complete demolition of Creationism per se.

Religious liars like you just make me hate religion more than ever.

AMEN!

DRS wrote in message

DZ wrote in message

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(I'm not a believer, which just

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Religious liars like you just make me hate religion more than ever.

OK, I take that back. I misread. But if you're not a believer why would
you be defending their lies?

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DRS wrote:
DZ wrote in message

Religious liars like you just make me hate religion more than ever.

I would lie on occasion, but I'm not religious. Hatred is a natural
evolutionary force that prevents interbreeding of subspecies, in my
view of the Nature, so you're entitled to that.

DZ

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"DRS" wrote:

Religious liars like you just make me hate religion more than ever.

They're no worse than dogmatic atheists.

I prefer agnostics, who are intellectually honest enough
to admit that they don't know any universal truths.

John M. Williams wrote in message

"DRS" wrote:

Religious liars like you just make me hate religion more than ever.

They're no worse than dogmatic atheists.

I prefer agnostics, who are intellectually honest enough
to admit that they don't know any universal truths.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the entire history of our species we have found
exactly zero credible evidence of any supernatural being who created the
universe. Moreover, the more we learn about the universe the less necessary
we find any such creator. Why then should I or anyone else give theism so
much as the time of day? The only dogmatic thing about my position is an
absolute insistence on credible, reliable evidence. If you've got a problem
with that we've got nothing to talk about.

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Ignoramus19432 wrote:
OftEntiMes sUCh people have eXtremELY vAgue idea ABOut just what god
is likE, to tHe point that THeir "bEliefs" CannOt lEAd to anY
praCTiCal cOnCluSionS anD cannot influence any deCisions.

Sometimes the fundamental question comes to "Why shouldn't I go ahead
and maul the neighbour".

God is the answer.

DZ

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