LC and running

"curt" wrote in message
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"Cubit" wrote in message
om...
SWAG

I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their transition
from
carb based to fat based energy. If you are already in Ketosis when you
start, you would not hit-the-wall.

?

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it could. I
don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out on LC is great, but
if
you want to go far and faster, you need carbs. It really is a no brainer.
Unless you think the whole athletic world is wrong.

The entire medical community is wrong. Why not the athletes who've been
brainwashed by sports physicians/nutritionists as well?


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Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| In article C3n2d.8624$yJ3.7022@trndny08, curt wrote:
|||
||| "Cubit" wrote in message
||| om...
|||| SWAG
||||
|||| I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their
|||| transition from carb based to fat based energy. If you are
|||| already in Ketosis when you start, you would not hit-the-wall.
||||
|||| ?
||||
|||| SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
|||
||| The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it
||| could. I don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out on
||| LC is great, but if you want to go far and faster, you need carbs.
||| It really is a no brainer. Unless you think the whole athletic
||| world is wrong.
||
|| I am not looking to run fast, I am looking to run a big (for me)
|| distance.
||

I think you'll find it quite possible to distance running provided you don't
exert yourself too much while doing it. An inexpensive heart rate monitor
*might* be useful (I find htem useful and fun).

The thing that makes all of this so fuzzy is that intensity depends on the
individual. For example, when I ride my bike over the hilly terrain around
here, it can be very intense for me due to my weight. However, for someone
who weighs 60 or 80 lbs less, that same route would be much less intense, so
they would likely do it with greater speed.

Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| In article C3n2d.8624$yJ3.7022@trndny08, curt wrote:
|||
||| "Cubit" wrote in message
||| om...
|||| SWAG
||||
|||| I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their
|||| transition from carb based to fat based energy. If you are
|||| already in Ketosis when you start, you would not hit-the-wall.
||||
|||| ?
||||
|||| SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
|||
||| The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it
||| could. I don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out on
||| LC is great, but if you want to go far and faster, you need carbs.
||| It really is a no brainer. Unless you think the whole athletic
||| world is wrong.
||
|| I am not looking to run fast, I am looking to run a big (for me)
|| distance.
||

I think you'll find it quite possible to distance running provided you don't
exert yourself too much while doing it. An inexpensive heart rate monitor
*might* be useful (I find htem useful and fun).

The thing that makes all of this so fuzzy is that intensity depends on the
individual. For example, when I ride my bike over the hilly terrain around
here, it can be very intense for me due to my weight. However, for someone
who weighs 60 or 80 lbs less, that same route would be much less intense, so
they would likely do it with greater speed.

Penelope Baker wrote:
|| "curt" wrote in message
|| news:C3n2d.8624$yJ3.7022@trndny08...
|||
||| "Cubit" wrote in message
||| om...
|||| SWAG
||||
|||| I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their
|||| transition from carb based to fat based energy. If you are
|||| already in Ketosis when you start, you would not hit-the-wall.
||||
|||| ?
||||
|||| SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
|||
||| The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it
||| could. I don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out on
||| LC is great, but if you want to go far and faster, you need carbs.
||| It really is a no brainer. Unless you think the whole athletic
||| world is wrong.
||
|| The entire medical community is wrong. Why not the athletes who've
|| been brainwashed by sports physicians/nutritionists as well?

Because the athletes haven't been brainwashed. These people have to perform
and if eating a high fat diet worked they would have discovered it by now.
There are those who have tried to do intense exercise on LC diets and they
have found that it doesn't work. It's called hitting the wall or bonking
out. Neither are good.

Penelope Baker wrote:
|| "curt" wrote in message
|| news:C3n2d.8624$yJ3.7022@trndny08...
|||
||| "Cubit" wrote in message
||| om...
|||| SWAG
||||
|||| I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their
|||| transition from carb based to fat based energy. If you are
|||| already in Ketosis when you start, you would not hit-the-wall.
||||
|||| ?
||||
|||| SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
|||
||| The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it
||| could. I don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out on
||| LC is great, but if you want to go far and faster, you need carbs.
||| It really is a no brainer. Unless you think the whole athletic
||| world is wrong.
||
|| The entire medical community is wrong. Why not the athletes who've
|| been brainwashed by sports physicians/nutritionists as well?

Because the athletes haven't been brainwashed. These people have to perform
and if eating a high fat diet worked they would have discovered it by now.
There are those who have tried to do intense exercise on LC diets and they
have found that it doesn't work. It's called hitting the wall or bonking
out. Neither are good.

"Ignoramus26859" wrote in message
...
After switching to my LC paleo diet, I noticed an increase in
endurance. I usually run for 30 minutes. I used to be tired by the end
of the run, but now I feel as fresh as if I just started running. I
cannot scientifically explain why that is so.

Anyway, I would like to experiment a bit and run longer, and maybe run
a half marathon without deviating from my LC plan. Where I end up will
depend on how well it goes as I ramp up the distance.

My question is, can anyone offer relevant personal experiences here?

Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body fat as
primary source of energy?

i

Myself. I have more energy now than I've had in over thirty years.

I spend the night last night dancing with women between five and fifteen
years younger than me, and I wore them all out. Ready to get back on that
dance floor again!

Finally! A practical application! Now there is an exercise program AND a
reason to do it!

Placid


"Jim Bard" wrote in message
...

"Ignoramus26859" wrote in message
...
After switching to my LC paleo diet, I noticed an increase in
endurance. I usually run for 30 minutes. I used to be tired by the end
of the run, but now I feel as fresh as if I just started running. I
cannot scientifically explain why that is so.

Anyway, I would like to experiment a bit and run longer, and maybe run
a half marathon without deviating from my LC plan. Where I end up will
depend on how well it goes as I ramp up the distance.

My question is, can anyone offer relevant personal experiences here?

Another question, at slow running speed, can one run using body fat as
primary source of energy?

i

Myself. I have more energy now than I've had in over thirty years.

I spend the night last night dancing with women between five and fifteen
years younger than me, and I wore them all out. Ready to get back on that
dance floor again!

On 17 Sep 2004 00:49:47 GMT, Ignoramus26859
wrote:

In article , Roger Zoul wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| In article C3n2d.8624$yJ3.7022@trndny08, curt wrote:
|||
||| "Cubit" wrote in message
||| om...
|||| SWAG
||||
|||| I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their
|||| transition from carb based to fat based energy. If you are
|||| already in Ketosis when you start, you would not hit-the-wall.
||||
|||| ?
||||
|||| SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
|||
||| The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it
||| could. I don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out on
||| LC is great, but if you want to go far and faster, you need carbs.
||| It really is a no brainer. Unless you think the whole athletic
||| world is wrong.
||
|| I am not looking to run fast, I am looking to run a big (for me)
|| distance.
||

I think you'll find it quite possible to distance running provided you
don't
exert yourself too much while doing it. An inexpensive heart rate
monitor
*might* be useful (I find htem useful and fun).

See my separate post, I just tried distance running today.

Instead of a hr monitor, I simply check if I can still talk while
running.

The thing that makes all of this so fuzzy is that intensity depends on
the
individual. For example, when I ride my bike over the hilly terrain
around
here, it can be very intense for me due to my weight. However, for
someone
who weighs 60 or 80 lbs less, that same route would be much less
intense, so
they would likely do it with greater speed.

I completely understand. My issue is sustaining modest intensity, not
high intensity.

i

I was riding up a hill the other day, and someone who weighed about 50
pounds less (or more -- I'm guessing) blew by me. It's nice to have high
weight as an excuse! (Instead of talent, genetics, etc.)

--
Bob M
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On 17 Sep 2004 00:49:47 GMT, Ignoramus26859
wrote:

In article , Roger Zoul wrote:
Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|| In article C3n2d.8624$yJ3.7022@trndny08, curt wrote:
|||
||| "Cubit" wrote in message
||| om...
|||| SWAG
||||
|||| I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their
|||| transition from carb based to fat based energy. If you are
|||| already in Ketosis when you start, you would not hit-the-wall.
||||
|||| ?
||||
|||| SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
|||
||| The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it
||| could. I don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out on
||| LC is great, but if you want to go far and faster, you need carbs.
||| It really is a no brainer. Unless you think the whole athletic
||| world is wrong.
||
|| I am not looking to run fast, I am looking to run a big (for me)
|| distance.
||

I think you'll find it quite possible to distance running provided you
don't
exert yourself too much while doing it. An inexpensive heart rate
monitor
*might* be useful (I find htem useful and fun).

See my separate post, I just tried distance running today.

Instead of a hr monitor, I simply check if I can still talk while
running.

The thing that makes all of this so fuzzy is that intensity depends on
the
individual. For example, when I ride my bike over the hilly terrain
around
here, it can be very intense for me due to my weight. However, for
someone
who weighs 60 or 80 lbs less, that same route would be much less
intense, so
they would likely do it with greater speed.

I completely understand. My issue is sustaining modest intensity, not
high intensity.

i

I was riding up a hill the other day, and someone who weighed about 50
pounds less (or more -- I'm guessing) blew by me. It's nice to have high
weight as an excuse! (Instead of talent, genetics, etc.)

--
Bob M
remove ".x" to reply

Bob M wrote:
|| On 17 Sep 2004 00:49:47 GMT, Ignoramus26859
|| wrote:
||
||| In article , Roger Zoul wrote:
|||| Ignoramus26859 wrote:
|||||| In article C3n2d.8624$yJ3.7022@trndny08, curt wrote:
|||||||
||||||| "Cubit" wrote in message
||||||| om...
|||||||| SWAG
||||||||
|||||||| I've read that when marathon runners hit-the-wall, it their
|||||||| transition from carb based to fat based energy. If you are
|||||||| already in Ketosis when you start, you would not hit-the-wall.
||||||||
|||||||| ?
||||||||
|||||||| SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
|||||||
||||||| The body can not convert fat as fast as it can carbs. I wish it
||||||| could. I don't care if you are in ketosis or not. Working out
||||||| on LC is great, but if you want to go far and faster, you need
||||||| carbs. It really is a no brainer. Unless you think the whole
||||||| athletic world is wrong.
||||||
|||||| I am not looking to run fast, I am looking to run a big (for me)
|||||| distance.
||||||
||||
|||| I think you'll find it quite possible to distance running provided
|||| you don't
|||| exert yourself too much while doing it. An inexpensive heart rate
|||| monitor
|||| *might* be useful (I find htem useful and fun).
|||
||| See my separate post, I just tried distance running today.
|||
||| Instead of a hr monitor, I simply check if I can still talk while
||| running.
|||
|||| The thing that makes all of this so fuzzy is that intensity
|||| depends on the
|||| individual. For example, when I ride my bike over the hilly
|||| terrain around
|||| here, it can be very intense for me due to my weight. However, for
|||| someone
|||| who weighs 60 or 80 lbs less, that same route would be much less
|||| intense, so
|||| they would likely do it with greater speed.
|||
||| I completely understand. My issue is sustaining modest intensity,
||| not high intensity.
|||
||| i
||
|| I was riding up a hill the other day, and someone who weighed about
|| 50 pounds less (or more -- I'm guessing) blew by me. It's nice to
|| have high weight as an excuse! (Instead of talent, genetics, etc.)

hehe...yeah....and don't forget age!