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Marathon and LC -- found an interesting post
Ignoramus474 wrote:
:: From a guy who ran a marathon on LC... :: :: http://tinyurl.com/4f7fb That's Rudy - she ain't no guy. |
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Ignoramus474 wrote:
:: From a guy who ran a marathon on LC... :: :: http://tinyurl.com/4f7fb That's Rudy - she ain't no guy. |
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Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind that I am
talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a marathon on LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It depends on what kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles on an LC, but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was a time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am convinced that if I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but right now I can't due to the shape I am in. So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 on a carb rich diet. Just my findings for myself. Curt "Ignoramus474" wrote in message ... From a guy who ran a marathon on LC... http://tinyurl.com/4f7fb |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:54:35 GMT, curt wrote:
Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind that I am talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a marathon on LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It depends on what kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles on an LC, but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was a time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am convinced that if I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but right now I can't due to the shape I am in. So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 on a carb rich diet. Just my findings for myself. Curt I also think it depends on what your output is. If you're time trialing up a mountain, you'll have higher carb requirements than if you're biking on flat ground with no wind. -- Bob in CT Remove ".x" to reply |
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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:54:35 GMT, curt wrote: :: ::: Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind ::: that I am ::: talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a ::: marathon on ::: LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It ::: depends on what ::: kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles ::: on an LC, ::: but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was a ::: time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am ::: convinced that if ::: I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but ::: right now ::: I can't due to the shape I am in. ::: ::: So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very ::: good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 ::: on a carb rich ::: diet. Just my findings for myself. ::: ::: Curt ::: :: :: I also think it depends on what your output is. If you're time :: trialing up a mountain, you'll have higher carb requirements than if :: you're biking on flat ground with no wind. When I haul my butt up a hill on a bike, I expend more wattage than a lighter person would who is going the same speed. Conditioning factors into ones ability to output watts. My guess is that you can train your body to convert fat to usage energy more readily up to a certain point, but sooner or later carbs will be needed (once you go anaerobic). |
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Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:54:35 GMT, curt wrote: :: ::: Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind ::: that I am ::: talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a ::: marathon on ::: LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It ::: depends on what ::: kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles ::: on an LC, ::: but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was a ::: time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am ::: convinced that if ::: I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but ::: right now ::: I can't due to the shape I am in. ::: ::: So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very ::: good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 ::: on a carb rich ::: diet. Just my findings for myself. ::: ::: Curt ::: :: :: I also think it depends on what your output is. If you're time :: trialing up a mountain, you'll have higher carb requirements than if :: you're biking on flat ground with no wind. When I haul my butt up a hill on a bike, I expend more wattage than a lighter person would who is going the same speed. Conditioning factors into ones ability to output watts. My guess is that you can train your body to convert fat to usage energy more readily up to a certain point, but sooner or later carbs will be needed (once you go anaerobic). |
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Roger Zoul wrote in message ...
Bob in CT wrote: :: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:54:35 GMT, curt wrote: :: ::: Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind ::: that I am ::: talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a ::: marathon on ::: LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It ::: depends on what ::: kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles ::: on an LC, ::: but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was a ::: time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am ::: convinced that if ::: I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but ::: right now ::: I can't due to the shape I am in. ::: ::: So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very ::: good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 ::: on a carb rich ::: diet. Just my findings for myself. ::: ::: Curt ::: :: :: I also think it depends on what your output is. If you're time :: trialing up a mountain, you'll have higher carb requirements than if :: you're biking on flat ground with no wind. When I haul my butt up a hill on a bike, I expend more wattage than a lighter person would who is going the same speed. Conditioning factors into ones ability to output watts. My guess is that you can train your body to convert fat to usage energy more readily up to a certain point, but sooner or later carbs will be needed (once you go anaerobic). Glycogen is burned even before you go anaerobic. Because burning glycogen requires 10% less oxygen for the same energy output, as your pace increases the body will start to burn it, far before you go anaerobic. For example, in the 50km race I did last week, my effort level was very high, but probably anaerobic for only a few minutes out of over 5.5 hours. I burned alot of fat and alot of glycogen, and I ate 800+ cal of mostly glucose, with some protein during the race. Still, a majority of my energy came from fat. - Tony |
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Roger Zoul wrote in message ...
Bob in CT wrote: :: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:54:35 GMT, curt wrote: :: ::: Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind ::: that I am ::: talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a ::: marathon on ::: LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It ::: depends on what ::: kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles ::: on an LC, ::: but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was a ::: time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am ::: convinced that if ::: I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but ::: right now ::: I can't due to the shape I am in. ::: ::: So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very ::: good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 ::: on a carb rich ::: diet. Just my findings for myself. ::: ::: Curt ::: :: :: I also think it depends on what your output is. If you're time :: trialing up a mountain, you'll have higher carb requirements than if :: you're biking on flat ground with no wind. When I haul my butt up a hill on a bike, I expend more wattage than a lighter person would who is going the same speed. Conditioning factors into ones ability to output watts. My guess is that you can train your body to convert fat to usage energy more readily up to a certain point, but sooner or later carbs will be needed (once you go anaerobic). Glycogen is burned even before you go anaerobic. Because burning glycogen requires 10% less oxygen for the same energy output, as your pace increases the body will start to burn it, far before you go anaerobic. For example, in the 50km race I did last week, my effort level was very high, but probably anaerobic for only a few minutes out of over 5.5 hours. I burned alot of fat and alot of glycogen, and I ate 800+ cal of mostly glucose, with some protein during the race. Still, a majority of my energy came from fat. - Tony |
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Tony wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote in message ... ::: Bob in CT wrote: ::::: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:54:35 GMT, curt wrote: ::::: :::::: Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind :::::: that I am :::::: talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a :::::: marathon on :::::: LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It :::::: depends on what :::::: kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles :::::: on an LC, :::::: but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was :::::: a time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am :::::: convinced that if :::::: I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but :::::: right now :::::: I can't due to the shape I am in. :::::: :::::: So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very :::::: good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 :::::: on a carb rich :::::: diet. Just my findings for myself. :::::: :::::: Curt :::::: ::::: ::::: I also think it depends on what your output is. If you're time ::::: trialing up a mountain, you'll have higher carb requirements than ::::: if you're biking on flat ground with no wind. ::: ::: When I haul my butt up a hill on a bike, I expend more wattage than ::: a lighter person would who is going the same speed. Conditioning ::: factors into ones ability to output watts. My guess is that you ::: can train your body to convert fat to usage energy more readily up ::: to a certain point, but sooner or later carbs will be needed (once ::: you go anaerobic). ::: :: :: Glycogen is burned even before you go anaerobic. Because burning :: glycogen requires 10% less oxygen for the same energy output, as :: your pace increases the body will start to burn it, far before you :: go anaerobic. For example, in the 50km race I did last week, my :: effort level was very high, but probably anaerobic for only a few :: minutes out of over 5.5 hours. I burned alot of fat and alot of :: glycogen, and I ate 800+ cal of mostly glucose, with some protein :: during the race. Still, a majority of my energy came from fat. You're correct. |
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Tony wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote in message ... ::: Bob in CT wrote: ::::: On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:54:35 GMT, curt wrote: ::::: :::::: Just to elaborate on how I feel on this subject. Keeping in mind :::::: that I am :::::: talking about my own experience. I feel many people can run a :::::: marathon on :::::: LC and some people can run a marathon on no food at all. It :::::: depends on what :::::: kind of shape a person is in. I can ride my bike for 40-50 miles :::::: on an LC, :::::: but after that time I need food (carbs) and fast. Now there was :::::: a time earlier that I couldn't ride nearly that far on LC. I am :::::: convinced that if :::::: I was in better shape, I could ride for 60, 70 or more on LC, but :::::: right now :::::: I can't due to the shape I am in. :::::: :::::: So IMHO, you can run a marathon on LC, but you need to be in very :::::: good shape. I feel if you can run 26 miles on LC, you can run 36 :::::: on a carb rich :::::: diet. Just my findings for myself. :::::: :::::: Curt :::::: ::::: ::::: I also think it depends on what your output is. If you're time ::::: trialing up a mountain, you'll have higher carb requirements than ::::: if you're biking on flat ground with no wind. ::: ::: When I haul my butt up a hill on a bike, I expend more wattage than ::: a lighter person would who is going the same speed. Conditioning ::: factors into ones ability to output watts. My guess is that you ::: can train your body to convert fat to usage energy more readily up ::: to a certain point, but sooner or later carbs will be needed (once ::: you go anaerobic). ::: :: :: Glycogen is burned even before you go anaerobic. Because burning :: glycogen requires 10% less oxygen for the same energy output, as :: your pace increases the body will start to burn it, far before you :: go anaerobic. For example, in the 50km race I did last week, my :: effort level was very high, but probably anaerobic for only a few :: minutes out of over 5.5 hours. I burned alot of fat and alot of :: glycogen, and I ate 800+ cal of mostly glucose, with some protein :: during the race. Still, a majority of my energy came from fat. You're correct. |
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