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  #11  
Old September 5th, 2004, 09:39 PM
Roger Zoul
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Use something like spamsubtract to block such stuff on the server so it
never gets to your PC. Nothing like this ever even gets downloaded because
if I don't recognize the sender or if the subject line makes no sense to me,
I nuke it. My virus software does a lot less work, too.

www.spamsubtract.com


Carmen wrote:
|| Lots of the Return-Path emails are Yahoo, but there are also some
|| Starmate, Flashmail, Awemail, FS1860.net, Sonnet and other ISPs
|| represented. They aren't "traceable". I suspect they're some sort
|| of
|| spam that didn't quite turn out right but if someone could direct me
|| towards a way to stop them using OE's Message Rules or by some sort
|| of add-on software I'd be grateful.
||
|| Thanks and take care,
|| Carmen


  #12  
Old September 5th, 2004, 09:39 PM
Roger Zoul
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Use something like spamsubtract to block such stuff on the server so it
never gets to your PC. Nothing like this ever even gets downloaded because
if I don't recognize the sender or if the subject line makes no sense to me,
I nuke it. My virus software does a lot less work, too.

www.spamsubtract.com


Carmen wrote:
|| Lots of the Return-Path emails are Yahoo, but there are also some
|| Starmate, Flashmail, Awemail, FS1860.net, Sonnet and other ISPs
|| represented. They aren't "traceable". I suspect they're some sort
|| of
|| spam that didn't quite turn out right but if someone could direct me
|| towards a way to stop them using OE's Message Rules or by some sort
|| of add-on software I'd be grateful.
||
|| Thanks and take care,
|| Carmen


  #13  
Old September 5th, 2004, 10:33 PM
jamie
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Carmen wrote:
Lots of the Return-Path emails are Yahoo, but there are also some
Starmate, Flashmail, Awemail, FS1860.net, Sonnet and other ISPs
represented. They aren't "traceable". I suspect they're some sort of
spam that didn't quite turn out right but if someone could direct me
towards a way to stop them using OE's Message Rules or by some sort of
add-on software I'd be grateful.


I believe they're noob-spammers, mistyping an extra return or
particular characters at the beginning of a line in the header of their
spamware, so the server sees it as the end of the message. The header
gets parsed alone, and the headless bodies are dropped by the server.

I don't know offhand how you could filter with OE, as I don't use OE.
Being a linux geek, I do it with procmail. There are probably
third party antispamware apps for Win that could handle filtering
on other headers, and compound rules like blank to and from.
I use a lot of filtering on Received headers, to block Asian spam.

If I didn't know how to write filtering rules with procmail, my
Newsguy email account has very advanced spamfiltering configuration
via a web interface, and they allow you the option of adding your ISP
email accounts to their spamfilter. You can optionally have it put
filtered messages in a holding queue for 4 days to examine, instead
of deleting, in case you didn't write your filter rule quite right,
and then change it to delete when you're sure the rule is correct.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

  #14  
Old September 5th, 2004, 10:33 PM
jamie
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Carmen wrote:
Lots of the Return-Path emails are Yahoo, but there are also some
Starmate, Flashmail, Awemail, FS1860.net, Sonnet and other ISPs
represented. They aren't "traceable". I suspect they're some sort of
spam that didn't quite turn out right but if someone could direct me
towards a way to stop them using OE's Message Rules or by some sort of
add-on software I'd be grateful.


I believe they're noob-spammers, mistyping an extra return or
particular characters at the beginning of a line in the header of their
spamware, so the server sees it as the end of the message. The header
gets parsed alone, and the headless bodies are dropped by the server.

I don't know offhand how you could filter with OE, as I don't use OE.
Being a linux geek, I do it with procmail. There are probably
third party antispamware apps for Win that could handle filtering
on other headers, and compound rules like blank to and from.
I use a lot of filtering on Received headers, to block Asian spam.

If I didn't know how to write filtering rules with procmail, my
Newsguy email account has very advanced spamfiltering configuration
via a web interface, and they allow you the option of adding your ISP
email accounts to their spamfilter. You can optionally have it put
filtered messages in a holding queue for 4 days to examine, instead
of deleting, in case you didn't write your filter rule quite right,
and then change it to delete when you're sure the rule is correct.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

  #15  
Old September 5th, 2004, 10:33 PM
jamie
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Carmen wrote:
Lots of the Return-Path emails are Yahoo, but there are also some
Starmate, Flashmail, Awemail, FS1860.net, Sonnet and other ISPs
represented. They aren't "traceable". I suspect they're some sort of
spam that didn't quite turn out right but if someone could direct me
towards a way to stop them using OE's Message Rules or by some sort of
add-on software I'd be grateful.


I believe they're noob-spammers, mistyping an extra return or
particular characters at the beginning of a line in the header of their
spamware, so the server sees it as the end of the message. The header
gets parsed alone, and the headless bodies are dropped by the server.

I don't know offhand how you could filter with OE, as I don't use OE.
Being a linux geek, I do it with procmail. There are probably
third party antispamware apps for Win that could handle filtering
on other headers, and compound rules like blank to and from.
I use a lot of filtering on Received headers, to block Asian spam.

If I didn't know how to write filtering rules with procmail, my
Newsguy email account has very advanced spamfiltering configuration
via a web interface, and they allow you the option of adding your ISP
email accounts to their spamfilter. You can optionally have it put
filtered messages in a holding queue for 4 days to examine, instead
of deleting, in case you didn't write your filter rule quite right,
and then change it to delete when you're sure the rule is correct.

--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

  #16  
Old September 5th, 2004, 11:47 PM
Carmen
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Hello again,
Snip of Blank Email problem details
Okay, I dug around a bit, looked at some of your suggestions and found
a potential solution in Google:

http://tinyurl.com/5dbat
I wasn't aware that one could get the option to change filter terms to
a "not" later in the process. This gentleman's solution may do the
trick. It was easy enough to set up, so now I guess I just wait. It
leaves me wondering why OE was given to brain-damaged squirrels to
develop though.

Thank you guys. :-) I'm saving all the suggestions in case it
doesn't work.

Take care,
Carmen
  #17  
Old September 5th, 2004, 11:47 PM
Carmen
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Hello again,
Snip of Blank Email problem details
Okay, I dug around a bit, looked at some of your suggestions and found
a potential solution in Google:

http://tinyurl.com/5dbat
I wasn't aware that one could get the option to change filter terms to
a "not" later in the process. This gentleman's solution may do the
trick. It was easy enough to set up, so now I guess I just wait. It
leaves me wondering why OE was given to brain-damaged squirrels to
develop though.

Thank you guys. :-) I'm saving all the suggestions in case it
doesn't work.

Take care,
Carmen
  #18  
Old September 5th, 2004, 11:49 PM
Carmen
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Hi,
On 5-Sep-2004, "FOB" wrote:

I've gotten a few of those. I've been using K9 to filter out spam,
after a
bit of training it does an excellent job. It puts spam into a
separate
folder where you can quickly scan the headers to see if there is
anything
good that got misclassified. That happens very rarely and I only
continue
to do it because I occasionally get mail generated from my website
that it
might mistake as spam. It's much quicker to scan it all in a
separate
folder than to pick out the bad among the good. Free at
www.keir.net


Thank you. I've put this away in case the solution I found doesn't
stop the blank emails. (Crossing fingers)

Take care,
Carmen
  #19  
Old September 5th, 2004, 11:49 PM
Carmen
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Hi,
On 5-Sep-2004, "FOB" wrote:

I've gotten a few of those. I've been using K9 to filter out spam,
after a
bit of training it does an excellent job. It puts spam into a
separate
folder where you can quickly scan the headers to see if there is
anything
good that got misclassified. That happens very rarely and I only
continue
to do it because I occasionally get mail generated from my website
that it
might mistake as spam. It's much quicker to scan it all in a
separate
folder than to pick out the bad among the good. Free at
www.keir.net


Thank you. I've put this away in case the solution I found doesn't
stop the blank emails. (Crossing fingers)

Take care,
Carmen
  #20  
Old September 5th, 2004, 11:49 PM
Carmen
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Hi,
On 5-Sep-2004, "FOB" wrote:

I've gotten a few of those. I've been using K9 to filter out spam,
after a
bit of training it does an excellent job. It puts spam into a
separate
folder where you can quickly scan the headers to see if there is
anything
good that got misclassified. That happens very rarely and I only
continue
to do it because I occasionally get mail generated from my website
that it
might mistake as spam. It's much quicker to scan it all in a
separate
folder than to pick out the bad among the good. Free at
www.keir.net


Thank you. I've put this away in case the solution I found doesn't
stop the blank emails. (Crossing fingers)

Take care,
Carmen
 




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