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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
Sure, why not?
A high-carb vegetarian diet will melt pounds off you. It has been proved over and over again. Just thought that you might want to know. |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
Mr. Natural-Health wrote: Sure, why not? A high-carb vegetarian diet will melt pounds off you. It has been proved over and over again. Just thought that you might want to know. You can provide a cite I suppose? Let me guess, the esteemed "Journal of 'Cause I Said So", May 2006 issue? Carmen |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
Mr. Natural-Health wrote: Sure, why not? A high-carb vegetarian diet will melt pounds off you. Someone with your kind of brain damage would be better served by shutting the f**k up. It would save you from the constant embarassment that your stupidity engenders from those of us who have some intellectual capacity. TC |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
Carmen wrote: Mr. Natural-Health wrote: A high-carb vegetarian diet will melt pounds off you. It has been proved over and over again. Just thought that you might want to know. You can provide a cite I suppose? Let me guess, the esteemed "Journal of 'Cause I Said So", May 2006 issue? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in595998.shtml gives an example of a high-carb vegetarian diet causing weight loss without any reduction of calories. I suppose just about any diet shows a weight loss except the high fructose soda pop diet. IIRC, the body is inefficient at converting carbohydrates to fat so that is a possible cause for the weight loss. Of course, the other nutrients in a vegetarian diet might be helpful in burning calories. -- Ron |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
Ron Peterson wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in595998.shtml gives an example of a high-carb vegetarian diet causing weight loss without any reduction of calories. Bull****. That study was crap. The only way you lose weight on a high carb diet is thru malnourishment and or abject starvation. I suppose just about any diet shows a weight loss except the high fructose soda pop diet. Wrong again. A diet has to satiate you. That requires a diet with no refined carbs. You need whole food carbs. And you need animal fats and proteins to fill you up and provide important nutrients that are lacking in any diet that excludes animal sourced foods. IIRC, the body is inefficient at converting carbohydrates to fat so that is a possible cause for the weight loss. Of course, the other nutrients in a vegetarian diet might be helpful in burning calories. -- Ron More utter BS. The body takes refined carbs and converts them very efficiently into body fat. Read any bio-chem textbook and you will see in the first or second chapter that carbs easily convert to fat. There is nothing in a vegetarian diet that is helpful in burning calories. And a vegetarian diet is missing a couple of dozen very important nutrients in sufficient amounts for optimal health. Vegetarianism is not good nutrition, regardless of how you look at it. Starvation of important animal-sourced nutrients will lead to weight loss, but it will most definitely not lead to optimal health. TC |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
Ron Peterson wrote:
IIRC, the body is inefficient at converting carbohydrates to fat so that is a possible cause for the weight loss. Of course, the other nutrients in a vegetarian diet might be helpful in burning calories. That's the principle behind low fat diets. If you go on a low fat diet and you aren't constantly hungry, go for it. The advantage of low carb diets is more people aren't hngry on them. Both work for some people. |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
On 5 May 2006 13:39:28 -0700, "TC" wrote:
Ron Peterson wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in595998.shtml gives an example of a high-carb vegetarian diet causing weight loss without any reduction of calories. Bull****. That study was crap. The only way you lose weight on a high carb diet is thru malnourishment and or abject starvation. Uh no I suppose just about any diet shows a weight loss except the high fructose soda pop diet. Wrong again. A diet has to satiate you. That requires a diet with no refined carbs. Really? A couple of bananas and I am full. You need whole food carbs. And you need animal fats and proteins to fill you up and provide important nutrients that are lacking in any diet that excludes animal sourced foods. You don't need to "fill up" on animal fats and proteins to get the few required nutrients as the rest can be found elsewhere. IIRC, the body is inefficient at converting carbohydrates to fat so that is a possible cause for the weight loss. Of course, the other nutrients in a vegetarian diet might be helpful in burning calories. -- Ron More utter BS. The body takes refined carbs and converts them very efficiently into body fat. Read any bio-chem textbook and you will see in the first or second chapter that carbs easily convert to fat. Funny how I always gain weight when I eat more fat? Of course fat has more calories duh. There is nothing in a vegetarian diet that is helpful in burning calories. Activity is the key here And a vegetarian diet is missing a couple of dozen very important nutrients in sufficient amounts for optimal health. Vegetarianism is not good nutrition, regardless of how you look at it. It is quite easy to get the required nutrients and protein on a low fat diet. I think you are getting confused between a vegan diet and a low fat/vegetarian diet. Starvation of important animal-sourced nutrients will lead to weight loss, but it will most definitely not lead to optimal health. Oh really? So nutrient density is what causes obesity? LOL |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
On 5 May 2006 10:45:35 -0700, "TC" wrote:
Someone with your kind of brain damage would be better served by shutting the f**k up. TC So I guess we won't be hearing from you for awhile? |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvement in cardiovascular disease (CVD);
TC wrote: Mr. Natural-Health wrote: Sure, why not? A high-carb vegetarian diet will melt pounds off you. Someone with your kind of brain damage would be better served by shutting the f**k up. It would save you from the constant embarassment that your stupidity engenders from those of us who have some intellectual capacity. If you are so smart, why are you so bloody stupid? |
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Increasing evidence supports carb diets for weight loss and improvementin cardiovascular disease (CVD);
Marengo wrote: On 5 May 2006 10:37:01 -0700, "Mr. Natural-Health" wrote: |Sure, why not? | |A high-carb vegetarian diet will melt pounds off you. | For a while. Until the blood glucose and insulin spikes and valleys lead to metabolic syndrome and diabetes. Then you lose weight by having toes and feet amputated. I agree. High carb will work until the blood glucose roller coaster ride creates non-compliance (drives you nuts with hunger and sporadic overeating because you're not willing to prepare and eat 6 - 8 itty bitty unsatisfying meals every day). Those who still fear fat and think that grains and legumes are beneficial can utilize the moderate carb diets (40-30-30, zone, southbeach or their own custom variation) and have a better shot at consistent compliance. Any diet that creates caloric restriction and subsequent weight loss will improve markers of health. Therefore, the best diet is the diet that can be complied with consistently. In the absence of consistent compliance, the argument as to which is better, low carb or low fat, is meaningless. As calories are restricted more and more, macronutrient ratio matters less and less (as far as improvement in markers for disease is concerned). In my opinion, the best diet is the one that best addresses ones individual situation. For example, if one has diabetes or the metabolic syndrome, low carb is the best choice. If one has blocked arteries, then ultra low fat is the best choice. If a person is healthy (disease free), a moderate carb diet (relaxed low carb or low fat based on metabolic typing and/or consistent compliance) is best. -- |
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