Low carb, high fat cute garden plants?

Bill wrote:

| That's a foolish diet, you may lose weight for a while, but you may
| also die from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack, etc.,
| before the next year is up.
|
| Low carb diet is nothing but a scam.
|
| Bill


Please cite the research to back up your claims.

Oh that;s right, you can't -- because it's purely fiction!

LMAO!
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Bill wrote:

| That's a foolish diet, you may lose weight for a while, but you may
| also die from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack, etc.,
| before the next year is up.
|
| Low carb diet is nothing but a scam.
|
| Bill


Please cite the research to back up your claims.

Oh that;s right, you can't -- because it's purely fiction!

LMAO!
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Ig -

Check out this site for some ideas: http://www.ediblelandscaping.com/

I was thinking olive, but that might not work in zone 5.


Ignoramus2437 wrote:
|| I am on a low carb high fat "paleo diet". In the front yard, we have
|| a concrete retaining wall that is a boundary of our land. Beyond the
|| retaining wall, 3 feet lower, is a public sidewalk. I rented a
|| monster tiller recently, and tilled a 24" strip of land immediately
|| adjacent to the retaining wall. (did a lot of other tilling to plant
|| a lawn elsewhere).
||
|| My desire is to plant some pretty, high fat, low carb, edible plants
|| that are not grains.
||
|| I live in Zone 5 (N Illinois).
||
|| One plant that I can think of is sunflowers. Maybe I will throw some
|| corn into it, for looks and for other members of my family, but I am
|| looking for other suggestions.
||
|| Thanks!
||
|| i

Ig -

Check out this site for some ideas: http://www.ediblelandscaping.com/

I was thinking olive, but that might not work in zone 5.


Ignoramus2437 wrote:
|| I am on a low carb high fat "paleo diet". In the front yard, we have
|| a concrete retaining wall that is a boundary of our land. Beyond the
|| retaining wall, 3 feet lower, is a public sidewalk. I rented a
|| monster tiller recently, and tilled a 24" strip of land immediately
|| adjacent to the retaining wall. (did a lot of other tilling to plant
|| a lawn elsewhere).
||
|| My desire is to plant some pretty, high fat, low carb, edible plants
|| that are not grains.
||
|| I live in Zone 5 (N Illinois).
||
|| One plant that I can think of is sunflowers. Maybe I will throw some
|| corn into it, for looks and for other members of my family, but I am
|| looking for other suggestions.
||
|| Thanks!
||
|| i

I saw your earlier post talking about growing chilies - you might have to
treat your chilies plants the way you treat your olive tree if you're
planning to grow them. Otherwise you'll have to seed a new batch every
year.

Do you have a glass house? They perform particularly well in a glass house
from what I heard.


"Ignoramus2437" wrote in message
...
In article , Roger Zoul wrote:
Ig -

Check out this site for some ideas: http://www.ediblelandscaping.com/

I was thinking olive, but that might not work in zone 5.

Thanks. We actually do own an olive tree, but it grows in a huge
pot. We take it out for the summer and will take it inside for the
winter.

i


Ignoramus2437 wrote:
|| I am on a low carb high fat "paleo diet". In the front yard, we have
|| a concrete retaining wall that is a boundary of our land. Beyond the
|| retaining wall, 3 feet lower, is a public sidewalk. I rented a
|| monster tiller recently, and tilled a 24" strip of land immediately
|| adjacent to the retaining wall. (did a lot of other tilling to plant
|| a lawn elsewhere).
||
|| My desire is to plant some pretty, high fat, low carb, edible plants
|| that are not grains.
||
|| I live in Zone 5 (N Illinois).
||
|| One plant that I can think of is sunflowers. Maybe I will throw some
|| corn into it, for looks and for other members of my family, but I am
|| looking for other suggestions.
||
|| Thanks!
||
|| i

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:17:39 +0100, "Ada Ma"
wrote:

I saw your earlier post talking about growing chilies - you might have to
treat your chilies plants the way you treat your olive tree if you're
planning to grow them. Otherwise you'll have to seed a new batch every
year.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Do you have a glass house?

No, then I couldn't throw stones.


Penelope



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Bill wrote:

"Ignoramus2437" wrote in message
...

I am on a low carb high fat "paleo diet". In the front yard, we have a
concrete retaining wall that is a boundary of our land. Beyond the
retaining wall, 3 feet lower, is a public sidewalk. I rented a monster
tiller recently, and tilled a 24" strip of land immediately adjacent
to the retaining wall. (did a lot of other tilling to plant a lawn
elsewhere).

My desire is to plant some pretty, high fat, low carb, edible plants
that are not grains.


That's a foolish diet, you may lose weight for a while, but you may also die
from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack, etc., before the next
year is up.

Low carb diet is nothing but a scam.

Bill


That explains it Bill! Thanks for the info.

I ate a low carb peanut butter sandwich last year and I immediately died
from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack etc., just as you
said. Luckily I had my reincarnation insurance paid up, wasn't it?

You are a very useful guy to have around Bill. Your in-depth knowledge
and incredible insight into scams and human nutrition is something that
can only be admired.

I guess that avocados are poison eh Bill? What with the high fat, low
carbs. Maybe they are Saddam's secret weapons of mass destruction? They
are a sort of drab military green after all. Do you think that someone
should whisper into Bush's ear?

What do you suggest as a good diet Bill?

It is obvious that you personally are thriving amazingly well on BS, but
for those of us with a little more taste and discernment, coupled with
a lack of access to fresh bovine created food sources, what would be a
good thing?

Regards

David




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Bill wrote:

"Ignoramus2437" wrote in message
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I am on a low carb high fat "paleo diet". In the front yard, we have a
concrete retaining wall that is a boundary of our land. Beyond the
retaining wall, 3 feet lower, is a public sidewalk. I rented a monster
tiller recently, and tilled a 24" strip of land immediately adjacent
to the retaining wall. (did a lot of other tilling to plant a lawn
elsewhere).

My desire is to plant some pretty, high fat, low carb, edible plants
that are not grains.


That's a foolish diet, you may lose weight for a while, but you may also die
from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack, etc., before the next
year is up.

Low carb diet is nothing but a scam.

Bill


That explains it Bill! Thanks for the info.

I ate a low carb peanut butter sandwich last year and I immediately died
from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack etc., just as you
said. Luckily I had my reincarnation insurance paid up, wasn't it?

You are a very useful guy to have around Bill. Your in-depth knowledge
and incredible insight into scams and human nutrition is something that
can only be admired.

I guess that avocados are poison eh Bill? What with the high fat, low
carbs. Maybe they are Saddam's secret weapons of mass destruction? They
are a sort of drab military green after all. Do you think that someone
should whisper into Bush's ear?

What do you suggest as a good diet Bill?

It is obvious that you personally are thriving amazingly well on BS, but
for those of us with a little more taste and discernment, coupled with
a lack of access to fresh bovine created food sources, what would be a
good thing?

Regards

David




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Hi Dave:

A fool you are! LOL

I have no problem with you believing in a high fat, low carb diet, I find
the planet overpopulated with fatso's anyway.
The nutrition committee of the American Heart Association has issued a
science advisory warning that high-protein diets have not been proven
effective and pose health risks. The report covered the Atkins, Zone,
Protein Power, Sugar Busters, and Stillman diets. The committee stated:

a.. Such diets may produce short-term weight loss through dehydration.
b.. Weight loss may also occur through caloric restriction resulting from
the fact that the diets are relatively unpalatable.
c.. The high fat content may be harmful to the cardiovascular system in
the long run.
d.. Any improvement in blood cholesterol levels and insulin management
would be due to weight loss, not the change in composition.
e.. A very high-protein diet is especially risky for patients with
diabetes because it can speed the progression of diabetic kidney disease
[8].
http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...opics/lcd.html

Bill

I ate a low carb peanut butter sandwich last year and I immediately died
from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack etc., just as you
said. Luckily I had my reincarnation insurance paid up, wasn't it?

You are a very useful guy to have around Bill. Your in-depth knowledge and
incredible insight into scams and human nutrition is something that can
only be admired.

I guess that avocados are poison eh Bill? What with the high fat, low
carbs. Maybe they are Saddam's secret weapons of mass destruction? They
are a sort of drab military green after all. Do you think that someone
should whisper into Bush's ear?

What do you suggest as a good diet Bill?

It is obvious that you personally are thriving amazingly well on BS, but
for those of us with a little more taste and discernment, coupled with a
lack of access to fresh bovine created food sources, what would be a good
thing?

Regards

David

"marengo" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote:

| That's a foolish diet, you may lose weight for a while, but you may
| also die from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack, etc.,
| before the next year is up.
|
| Low carb diet is nothing but a scam.
|
| Bill


Please cite the research to back up your claims.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...opics/lcd.html

There is plenty of research to back up my claim, problem is that fat people
won't believe it. Being fat is being lazy and being lazy means that you are
looking for a panacea.

You can lose weight with any diet, but to lose weight with high fat, low
carbs permanently, you have to die, and die you will, as Dr. Atkins did at
258 lbs with conditions arising from his cardiomyopathy, a lack of blood
flow.

The Bottom Line
Although short-range studies have found that low-carbohydrate diets can
produce weight loss, no study has demonstrated that such diets are safe or
effective for long-term use [11-14,22,23]. Atkins advocated his diet for
more than 30 years and stated that more than 60,000 patients treated at his
center had used his diet as their primary protocol. However, he never
published any study in which people who used his program were monitored over
a period of several years. The recent popularity of low-carbohydrate diets
has encouraged food companies to market low-carbohydrate foods for people
who want to "watch their carbs." Most of these foods are much higher in fat
than the foods they are designed to replace. I believe that "low-carb"
advertising is encouraging both dieters and nondieters to eat high-fat
foods, which is exactly the opposite of what medical and nutrition
authorities have been urging for decades. Following a low-carbohydrate diet
under medical supervision may make sense for some people, but a
population-wide increase in fat consumption is a recipe for disaster.

For Additional Information
a.. American Heart Association Statement on High Protein Diets
b.. atkinsfacts.org: Archive of documents about the Atkins diet

Oh that;s right, you can't -- because it's purely fiction!

LMAO!

The joke is on you fat boy! LOL

Bill
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