My Butt hurts.

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Immensely. The more money you put between your crotch and the bicycle
seat, the more comfortable it is. Cheap bike shorts are a waste of
money. Get a good pair of Pearl Izumi shorts. Attack PRT's are good.
I've seen them anywhere between $49.99 and $59.99. The padded
underwear is useless. Also, do not wear underwear under your bike
shorts. The only thing you should wear in between you and your shorts
is some Bag Balm (see below).

the reason I wanted something simple is I am not going to change clothes when I
get to work. a little extra comfort is all I need. for longer rides I know I
need good riding gear.

When I seriously commuted to work on a bike for the first time
(working at a bike shop), a CAT 1 racer gave me some great advice for
the burning crotch. Bag Balm or medicated Vaseline. I apply about
three fingers worth of Bag Balm to the area where my thigh meets my
crotch and in between, before every ride. I won't bother your bike
shorts, but don't try this with regular clothes. My wife tells me it
leaves that area of my body very soft and supple.

bag balm good deal i was wondering what would work.

A good seat is also a must. Many, and I mean MANY, swear by the
Brooks B-17 leather saddle. After a relatively short break-in period,
the Brooks forms to your body and provides the ultimate ride. People
who tour and spend 10 hours a day for weeks at a time on a bike saddle
ride a Brooks. There has to be something to that. The B-17 goes for
about $60.

looks like the company went out of business. may take some hunting to find one
if I can.
well ebay has a bunch but now I need money (G)
Lastly, rec.bicycles.misc and rec.bicycles.tech are the best place on
usenet for this kind of stuff. www.sheldonbrown.com is the best place
on the web. Sheldon has written more on bicycles than most people
care to read.

just started there. don't know How I missed the two.


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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:30:24 GMT, Steve Knight
wrote:


the reason I wanted something simple is I am not going to change clothes when I
get to work. a little extra comfort is all I need. for longer rides I know I
need good riding gear.

Changing isn't as big a deal as it sounds. Simply wear a small back
pack or messenger bag on your ride to carry the clothes in. You can
put a rack on the back of your bike and put small panniers or a rack
trunk on it to carry your gear in. All you need is 5 minutes and a
bathroom to change your clothes.

bag balm good deal i was wondering what would work.

It won't work the same with standard clothes.

looks like the company went out of business. may take some hunting to find one
if I can.

Brooks didn't go out of business. You can find their saddles all over
the place.

http://www.wallbike.com/
www.nashbar.com
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/saddles.html

Just to name a few.



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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:55:00 GMT, -= ®atzofratzo =-

Changing isn't as big a deal as it sounds. Simply wear a small back
pack or messenger bag on your ride to carry the clothes in. You can
put a rack on the back of your bike and put small panniers or a rack
trunk on it to carry your gear in. All you need is 5 minutes and a
bathroom to change your clothes.

it is if your lazy about such things (G) but my bike is a racing bike so ther is
no place to hang anything but on my back. my backpack is getting full of daily
needs stuff and not much room to carry anything. lets see my small tool kit my
sandals so I can walk if I need too a light rain/wind jacket my camel pack
water bottle. it's not a small backpack either. if I need to carry something to
work I am almost out of luck. for the daily commute it has to be as pain free as
possible in the hassle of changing clothes. I just need a bit more comfort in
the crotch area the ride is only 45 minutes long.




Brooks didn't go out of business. You can find their saddles all over
the place.

so much for the page i was reading the reviews of them on (G)

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On 9/26/2003 10:30 PM, Steve Knight wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:55:00 GMT, -= ®atzofratzo =-


Changing isn't as big a deal as it sounds. Simply wear a small back
pack or messenger bag on your ride to carry the clothes in. You can
put a rack on the back of your bike and put small panniers or a rack
trunk on it to carry your gear in. All you need is 5 minutes and a
bathroom to change your clothes.


it is if your lazy about such things (G) but my bike is a racing bike so ther is
no place to hang anything but on my back. my backpack is getting full of daily
needs stuff and not much room to carry anything. lets see my small tool kit my
sandals so I can walk if I need too a light rain/wind jacket my camel pack
water bottle. it's not a small backpack either. if I need to carry something to
work I am almost out of luck. for the daily commute it has to be as pain free as
possible in the hassle of changing clothes. I just need a bit more comfort in
the crotch area the ride is only 45 minutes long.

Well you could always add a rack and panniers. Many are designed for
road bikes so they should work fine on yours. Here's one example site:
http://www.panniers.com/text_index.html

You'd have to check and see if the bar bag fits dropped bars or not.

You may want to check with your Local Bike Shop on this as well --
especially if you want help with installation.

Anyway, I would still recommend good bike shorts and a saddle that suits
you better.

Steve Knight wrote:

: it is if your lazy about such things (G) but my bike is a racing bike
: so ther is no place to hang anything but on my back. my backpack is
: getting full of daily
: needs stuff and not much room to carry anything. lets see my small tool
: kit my sandals so I can walk if I need too a light rain/wind jacket my
: camel pack water bottle. it's not a small backpack either. if I need to
: carry something to work I am almost out of luck. for the daily commute
: it has to be as pain free as possible in the hassle of changing clothes.
snip

Might you consider a cheapo commute bike and leave the racing bike
in the vault at home? I have a truly ancient touring bike that I
have, with help from a friend, modified to suit me. I have a rack
on the back for my homemade pannier :-), I have strike bars for
comfort, front light and backlight. My commute ride is also about
40 mins one way. I've made it as cmfy for myself as I can. I can
pack a lot of stuff in that little bag of mine!

I also don't have much fear that anyone is going to steal my bike
(although, you betcha, I lock 'er up!). She ain't pretty, she
ain't a speed demon (normal cruising speed for me is anywhere from
15-19mph), but she goes pretty far :-)

Good luck, fellow cycling enthusiast!

Tammy