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bob the builder wrote:
I am getting ready to start weight watchers on Monday, March 1st for the first time. I don't have any information on what is ok and what to avoid. Can you take diet pills like Trim Spa and Stacker 2 along with WW? Is that a bad thing to do or can it be helpful? Thanks! You can...but you can also drive to your meeting with your feet, doesn't mean its a good idea...though I'm sure the makers of the products would love for you to buy them. |
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buck naked wrote:
bob the builder wrote: I am getting ready to start weight watchers on Monday, March 1st for the first time. I don't have any information on what is ok and what to avoid. Can you take diet pills like Trim Spa and Stacker 2 along with WW? Is that a bad thing to do or can it be helpful? Thanks! You can...but you can also drive to your meeting with your feet, doesn't mean its a good idea...though I'm sure the makers of the products would love for you to buy them. My personal take on these things is that long term they are not good: they do not teach good eating habbits for life, and depending on them rather than re-educating yourself and your eating habbits is useless. Once you stop taking them, you'll just slip back into the bad old ways. I wouldn't even bother with them for a quick start. Things that suppress apatite are not necessary on WW: as your food intake decreases, and your weight, your stomach learns to feel full on less, and indeed, over time it shrinks along with the rest of you. Dietry suppliments like vitimines are also unnecessary: if you follow the plan, you get a good mixed diet of protien, carbs, and vegetables, with sufficient daily supplies of everything you need unless you have a specific health problem, in which case weight loss should be supervised by a qualified medical team. WW themselves will tell you this. Just to give you an idea of what you CAN eat on WW, here was the meal I ate and served to my type 1 diabetic DH and my fast growing 9 YO son: Roast chicken (no stuffing, couldn't be bothered to make any!) Gravy (made with the hald bottle of wine I slung over the chicken, and the liquids from cooking it, a little cornflour, and some of the water from the veggies, as it came out a bit thick!) Roast potatoes ('dry' roast with a quick spray of olive oil rather than swimming in fat!) Lightly boiled carrots and broccoli Fresh home made fruit salad - no cream (I forgot to buy it!), and no added sugar This lot filled me to 'stuffed' point - I had about 3 portions of veg for no points at all! - and came to 8 points, and I added 2 more for a glass of wine. Ten points for dinner, out of a total of 22 allowed me for the day - a high point meal for me. This left me with 2 points from today, plus 3 saved from yesterday to play with, as I use 8 points on lunch after a lie-in and no breakfast. Tomorrow I'll make the other half of the roasted birdie into a mediaeval 'Blamanger of capons', and later in the week the rest of the carcass will become a nice low point chicken and leek soup. We eat well. So far I have lost 34 pounds without resorting to any artificial help or diertry suppliments of any sort. The best booster for weight loss is exercise: use a few more calories than you consume every day and the weight will slide off. Follow WW properly and you need never feel deprived or hungry. Good luck on your downward slide! -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Kate - just why didn't you invite us all over for dinner? Sounds
wonderful. I'll make you a quilt if you'll fix my dinner every evening. ;-0 If you can beg for a quilt, I can beg for dinner!!!!! -- Donna in Idaho Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/ Remove "invalid" to reply "Kate Dicey" wrote in message ... buck naked wrote: bob the builder wrote: I am getting ready to start weight watchers on Monday, March 1st for the first time. I don't have any information on what is ok and what to avoid. Can you take diet pills like Trim Spa and Stacker 2 along with WW? Is that a bad thing to do or can it be helpful? Thanks! You can...but you can also drive to your meeting with your feet, doesn't mean its a good idea...though I'm sure the makers of the products would love for you to buy them. My personal take on these things is that long term they are not good: they do not teach good eating habbits for life, and depending on them rather than re-educating yourself and your eating habbits is useless. Once you stop taking them, you'll just slip back into the bad old ways. I wouldn't even bother with them for a quick start. Things that suppress apatite are not necessary on WW: as your food intake decreases, and your weight, your stomach learns to feel full on less, and indeed, over time it shrinks along with the rest of you. Dietry suppliments like vitimines are also unnecessary: if you follow the plan, you get a good mixed diet of protien, carbs, and vegetables, with sufficient daily supplies of everything you need unless you have a specific health problem, in which case weight loss should be supervised by a qualified medical team. WW themselves will tell you this. Just to give you an idea of what you CAN eat on WW, here was the meal I ate and served to my type 1 diabetic DH and my fast growing 9 YO son: Roast chicken (no stuffing, couldn't be bothered to make any!) Gravy (made with the hald bottle of wine I slung over the chicken, and the liquids from cooking it, a little cornflour, and some of the water from the veggies, as it came out a bit thick!) Roast potatoes ('dry' roast with a quick spray of olive oil rather than swimming in fat!) Lightly boiled carrots and broccoli Fresh home made fruit salad - no cream (I forgot to buy it!), and no added sugar This lot filled me to 'stuffed' point - I had about 3 portions of veg for no points at all! - and came to 8 points, and I added 2 more for a glass of wine. Ten points for dinner, out of a total of 22 allowed me for the day - a high point meal for me. This left me with 2 points from today, plus 3 saved from yesterday to play with, as I use 8 points on lunch after a lie-in and no breakfast. Tomorrow I'll make the other half of the roasted birdie into a mediaeval 'Blamanger of capons', and later in the week the rest of the carcass will become a nice low point chicken and leek soup. We eat well. So far I have lost 34 pounds without resorting to any artificial help or diertry suppliments of any sort. The best booster for weight loss is exercise: use a few more calories than you consume every day and the weight will slide off. Follow WW properly and you need never feel deprived or hungry. Good luck on your downward slide! -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Unnecessary as others also indicate. Just start eating the right
foods and, importantly, in the right quantities. Fred 219.2/158.8/164.0 (Lifetime July 2003) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002 On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:36:24 GMT, bob the builder wrote: I am getting ready to start weight watchers on Monday, March 1st for the first time. I don't have any information on what is ok and what to avoid. Can you take diet pills like Trim Spa and Stacker 2 along with WW? Is that a bad thing to do or can it be helpful? Thanks! |
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"Donna in Idaho (remove invalid)" wrote:
Kate - just why didn't you invite us all over for dinner? Sounds wonderful. I'll make you a quilt if you'll fix my dinner every evening. ;-0 If you can beg for a quilt, I can beg for dinner!!!!! You're welcome any time, m'deerie! I don't think roast chook would survive posting... The recipe for tonight's Blamanger of Capons is on my web site in the Mediaeval and Renaissance recipes section of Kate's World. It's one I adapted from the original to be low in fat. The quantity on the web site should do 4 people as a main dish: serve with a salad of baby spinache, lambs lettuce and sorel for a true mediaeval flavour. It works out at aboout 7 points per serving. -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Dietry suppliments like vitimines are also unnecessary: if you follow the plan,
you get a good mixed diet of protien, carbs, and vegetables, with sufficient daily supplies of everything you need unless you have a specific health problem, in which case weight loss should be supervised by a qualified medical team. WW themselves will tell you this. What you say is all good. But many people trying to lose weight apparently reduce the variety of food they eat. They probably find a few meals that work and stick with them. Because of this it's probably a good idea to take a good quality multivitamin/mineral most days. In addition it's a really good idea to get enough calcium. The best way is through your food, but if thats not possible or marginal then it's a good idea to take a calcium/vitamin d supplement. Apparently getting enough calcium helps weight loss. WW specifically try to get people to eat dairy produce (presumably to boost calcium intake amongst other things). On the other hand if you are sure you are getting enough vitamins and calcium then supplementing is a waste of money, and can be detrimental. Ray -- rmnsuk 273/202/182 |
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ray miller wrote:
Dietry suppliments like vitimines are also unnecessary: if you follow the plan, you get a good mixed diet of protien, carbs, and vegetables, with sufficient daily supplies of everything you need unless you have a specific health problem, in which case weight loss should be supervised by a qualified medical team. WW themselves will tell you this. What you say is all good. But many people trying to lose weight apparently reduce the variety of food they eat. They probably find a few meals that work and stick with them. WW encourages variety in the diet: I think we eat a WIDER variety of stuff since I started this lark! Because of this it's probably a good idea to take a good quality multivitamin/mineral most days. Oh, if you restrict that much, yes. But that would be very boring... I tend to be careful to eat a wide variety of stuff, including green veggies and calcium rich foods as I cannot metabolise calcium in suppliment form and was advised never to use vitamine or mineral suppliments without medical say so. I have to admit that I never found them necessary, even when living on bording school food in the 70's! In addition it's a really good idea to get enough calcium. The best way is through your food, but if thats not possible or marginal then it's a good idea to take a calcium/vitamin d supplement. Apparently getting enough calcium helps weight loss. WW specifically try to get people to eat dairy produce (presumably to boost calcium intake amongst other things). On the other hand if you are sure you are getting enough vitamins and calcium then supplementing is a waste of money, and can be detrimental. I'd rather spend the money on nicer fresh food! -- Kate XXXXXX Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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There is no need to do it but I am not in favor of most of those things,
welcome and good luck, Lee bob the builder wrote in message ... I am getting ready to start weight watchers on Monday, March 1st for the first time. I don't have any information on what is ok and what to avoid. Can you take diet pills like Trim Spa and Stacker 2 along with WW? Is that a bad thing to do or can it be helpful? Thanks! |
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