Foods to Avoid?

In article ,
(Jumpin' Jack Flash) wrote:

"Jim Bard" wrote in message
...
You're doing the right thing. Grains, potatoes, things like that are good
to avoid.

Just as an anecdote, I was watching on the History Channel the history of
the cattle industry in the US. Being a Texan, I was naturally interested
in
that. At one point, they mentioned that ranchers would feed the cattle
grain to fatten them up.

I think that works with people, too.

My diet primarily consists of meat, fish, eggs, cheese, and certain
vegetables, just as spinach, broccoli, green beans, cauliflower, and so on.
I take vitamin supplements and also sugar-free Metamucil for the fiber
content, since I lost my "regularity" after I started this.

This is just the path I've found in my lifestyle change. Everyone is
different, and your path might be completely different. Hang in there,
there is no direct recipe for a low-carb lifestyle, For instance, I never
eat past 8pm. I have promised myself that if I really need something to
eat
later, it will be a can of soup, usually cream of chicken, and then if I'm
STILL hungry, I can have whatever I want. I've only had the soup maybe a
half-dozen times, and never wanted anything after that.

It's mostly about whatever works for you.

Great, thanks for the tips. One thing I'm wondering about here is,
should carbs be avoided all together? Do you guys avoid eating bread
or pasta and high-carb foods like that all together, or should you mix
up a very limited amount in your diet. I'm finding it hard to avoid.
I haven't bought new groceries since I started this and when I look in
my cupboard it's all high carb pasta and soups, etc.

Do you avoid sugar mainly too?

Also, what is something good to drink? Besides water? I am drinking
a lot of water as well, but I need something else. Water doesn't
satisfy me at all. Any sort of fruit juices or milk or anything?
What's good for this diet?

You know, you might benefit from reading some of the books written about
low-carbing. If you're trying to do Atkins, you really need to read a
recent edition of his book.

Priscilla

Priscilla Ballou wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Jumpin' Jack Flash) wrote:

"Jim Bard" wrote in message
...
You're doing the right thing. Grains, potatoes, things like that are good
to avoid.

Just as an anecdote, I was watching on the History Channel the history of
the cattle industry in the US. Being a Texan, I was naturally interested
in
that. At one point, they mentioned that ranchers would feed the cattle
grain to fatten them up.

I think that works with people, too.

My diet primarily consists of meat, fish, eggs, cheese, and certain
vegetables, just as spinach, broccoli, green beans, cauliflower, and so on.
I take vitamin supplements and also sugar-free Metamucil for the fiber
content, since I lost my "regularity" after I started this.

This is just the path I've found in my lifestyle change. Everyone is
different, and your path might be completely different. Hang in there,
there is no direct recipe for a low-carb lifestyle, For instance, I never
eat past 8pm. I have promised myself that if I really need something to
eat
later, it will be a can of soup, usually cream of chicken, and then if I'm
STILL hungry, I can have whatever I want. I've only had the soup maybe a
half-dozen times, and never wanted anything after that.

It's mostly about whatever works for you.

Great, thanks for the tips. One thing I'm wondering about here is,
should carbs be avoided all together? Do you guys avoid eating bread
or pasta and high-carb foods like that all together, or should you mix
up a very limited amount in your diet. I'm finding it hard to avoid.
I haven't bought new groceries since I started this and when I look in
my cupboard it's all high carb pasta and soups, etc.

Do you avoid sugar mainly too?

Also, what is something good to drink? Besides water? I am drinking
a lot of water as well, but I need something else. Water doesn't
satisfy me at all. Any sort of fruit juices or milk or anything?
What's good for this diet?

You know, you might benefit from reading some of the books written about
low-carbing. If you're trying to do Atkins, you really need to read a
recent edition of his book.

Priscilla

Well, I'm basically doing it loosely. I'm not going to follow it to a
T, but I am trying to just cut my carb levels. Instead of having
carbs in every meal, I'm just going to try and avoid it more often.
All I'm really trying to find out is what are really high carb foods
and what I can replace some of my old favorites with. I'd simply like
to find a list of "good" and "bad" foods, really. Thanks for the
input.

Priscilla Ballou wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Jumpin' Jack Flash) wrote:

"Jim Bard" wrote in message
...
You're doing the right thing. Grains, potatoes, things like that are good
to avoid.

Just as an anecdote, I was watching on the History Channel the history of
the cattle industry in the US. Being a Texan, I was naturally interested
in
that. At one point, they mentioned that ranchers would feed the cattle
grain to fatten them up.

I think that works with people, too.

My diet primarily consists of meat, fish, eggs, cheese, and certain
vegetables, just as spinach, broccoli, green beans, cauliflower, and so on.
I take vitamin supplements and also sugar-free Metamucil for the fiber
content, since I lost my "regularity" after I started this.

This is just the path I've found in my lifestyle change. Everyone is
different, and your path might be completely different. Hang in there,
there is no direct recipe for a low-carb lifestyle, For instance, I never
eat past 8pm. I have promised myself that if I really need something to
eat
later, it will be a can of soup, usually cream of chicken, and then if I'm
STILL hungry, I can have whatever I want. I've only had the soup maybe a
half-dozen times, and never wanted anything after that.

It's mostly about whatever works for you.

Great, thanks for the tips. One thing I'm wondering about here is,
should carbs be avoided all together? Do you guys avoid eating bread
or pasta and high-carb foods like that all together, or should you mix
up a very limited amount in your diet. I'm finding it hard to avoid.
I haven't bought new groceries since I started this and when I look in
my cupboard it's all high carb pasta and soups, etc.

Do you avoid sugar mainly too?

Also, what is something good to drink? Besides water? I am drinking
a lot of water as well, but I need something else. Water doesn't
satisfy me at all. Any sort of fruit juices or milk or anything?
What's good for this diet?

You know, you might benefit from reading some of the books written about
low-carbing. If you're trying to do Atkins, you really need to read a
recent edition of his book.

Priscilla

Well, I'm basically doing it loosely. I'm not going to follow it to a
T, but I am trying to just cut my carb levels. Instead of having
carbs in every meal, I'm just going to try and avoid it more often.
All I'm really trying to find out is what are really high carb foods
and what I can replace some of my old favorites with. I'd simply like
to find a list of "good" and "bad" foods, really. Thanks for the
input.

In article ,
(Jumpin' Jack Flash) wrote:

Priscilla Ballou wrote in message
You know, you might benefit from reading some of the books written about
low-carbing. If you're trying to do Atkins, you really need to read a
recent edition of his book.

Priscilla

Well, I'm basically doing it loosely. I'm not going to follow it to a
T, but I am trying to just cut my carb levels. Instead of having
carbs in every meal, I'm just going to try and avoid it more often.
All I'm really trying to find out is what are really high carb foods
and what I can replace some of my old favorites with. I'd simply like
to find a list of "good" and "bad" foods, really. Thanks for the
input.

I have to second the book suggestion. This is where you'll figure out
the basics. Then you'll have enough knowledge to know how to bend the
rules to your liking. Low carbing isn't just about "good" and "bad"
foods.

Aloha...Sue

In article ,
(Jumpin' Jack Flash) wrote:

Priscilla Ballou wrote in message
You know, you might benefit from reading some of the books written about
low-carbing. If you're trying to do Atkins, you really need to read a
recent edition of his book.

Priscilla

Well, I'm basically doing it loosely. I'm not going to follow it to a
T, but I am trying to just cut my carb levels. Instead of having
carbs in every meal, I'm just going to try and avoid it more often.
All I'm really trying to find out is what are really high carb foods
and what I can replace some of my old favorites with. I'd simply like
to find a list of "good" and "bad" foods, really. Thanks for the
input.

I have to second the book suggestion. This is where you'll figure out
the basics. Then you'll have enough knowledge to know how to bend the
rules to your liking. Low carbing isn't just about "good" and "bad"
foods.

Aloha...Sue

"Jumpin' Jack Flash" wrote in message
m...
Priscilla Ballou wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Jumpin' Jack Flash) wrote:

"Jim Bard" wrote in message
...
You're doing the right thing. Grains, potatoes, things like that
are good
to avoid.

Just as an anecdote, I was watching on the History Channel the
history of
the cattle industry in the US. Being a Texan, I was naturally
interested
in
that. At one point, they mentioned that ranchers would feed the
cattle
grain to fatten them up.

I think that works with people, too.

My diet primarily consists of meat, fish, eggs, cheese, and certain
vegetables, just as spinach, broccoli, green beans, cauliflower, and
so on.
I take vitamin supplements and also sugar-free Metamucil for the
fiber
content, since I lost my "regularity" after I started this.

This is just the path I've found in my lifestyle change. Everyone
is
different, and your path might be completely different. Hang in
there,
there is no direct recipe for a low-carb lifestyle, For instance,
I never
eat past 8pm. I have promised myself that if I really need
something to
eat
later, it will be a can of soup, usually cream of chicken, and then
if I'm
STILL hungry, I can have whatever I want. I've only had the soup
maybe a
half-dozen times, and never wanted anything after that.

It's mostly about whatever works for you.

Great, thanks for the tips. One thing I'm wondering about here is,
should carbs be avoided all together? Do you guys avoid eating bread
or pasta and high-carb foods like that all together, or should you mix
up a very limited amount in your diet. I'm finding it hard to avoid.
I haven't bought new groceries since I started this and when I look in
my cupboard it's all high carb pasta and soups, etc.

Do you avoid sugar mainly too?

Also, what is something good to drink? Besides water? I am drinking
a lot of water as well, but I need something else. Water doesn't
satisfy me at all. Any sort of fruit juices or milk or anything?
What's good for this diet?

You know, you might benefit from reading some of the books written about
low-carbing. If you're trying to do Atkins, you really need to read a
recent edition of his book.

Priscilla

Well, I'm basically doing it loosely. I'm not going to follow it to a
T, but I am trying to just cut my carb levels. Instead of having
carbs in every meal, I'm just going to try and avoid it more often.
All I'm really trying to find out is what are really high carb foods
and what I can replace some of my old favorites with. I'd simply like
to find a list of "good" and "bad" foods, really. Thanks for the
input.

"Not going to follow it to a T"????

At the risk of sounding rash, what we are trying to tell you is that there
is NO "doing it loosely"

IOW, if you do not read the book and understand how the diet works then IT
WILL NOT work for you because there is a 90% chance that you will do it
wrong. And even risk your health in the process.

This is why there are so many people out there that badmouth this diet
because "their friend" or "themselves" simply started eating what "they
thought" was the correct food etc and failed miserably with their own half
assed attempt at a diet that "they" dreamed up.

Normally I just lurk here but I have had it with all the misinformation
being thrown around about Dr Adkins and his diet.

Think of it like a Star Wars Movie quote: "There is no try, only do". Yeah
I know I got the quote wrong but my point is this: For the diet to work you
have to educate yourself first. Nobody will do that for you. This isn't a
fashion diet. It is a serious commitment to a lifestyle change FOREVER. Im
not trying to scare you away from this diet, but if it intimidates or
confuses you in the slightest then it is not for you.

Rant over.

"Jumpin' Jack Flash" wrote in message
m...
Priscilla Ballou wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Jumpin' Jack Flash) wrote:

"Jim Bard" wrote in message
...
You're doing the right thing. Grains, potatoes, things like that
are good
to avoid.

Just as an anecdote, I was watching on the History Channel the
history of
the cattle industry in the US. Being a Texan, I was naturally
interested
in
that. At one point, they mentioned that ranchers would feed the
cattle
grain to fatten them up.

I think that works with people, too.

My diet primarily consists of meat, fish, eggs, cheese, and certain
vegetables, just as spinach, broccoli, green beans, cauliflower, and
so on.
I take vitamin supplements and also sugar-free Metamucil for the
fiber
content, since I lost my "regularity" after I started this.

This is just the path I've found in my lifestyle change. Everyone
is
different, and your path might be completely different. Hang in
there,
there is no direct recipe for a low-carb lifestyle, For instance,
I never
eat past 8pm. I have promised myself that if I really need
something to
eat
later, it will be a can of soup, usually cream of chicken, and then
if I'm
STILL hungry, I can have whatever I want. I've only had the soup
maybe a
half-dozen times, and never wanted anything after that.

It's mostly about whatever works for you.

Great, thanks for the tips. One thing I'm wondering about here is,
should carbs be avoided all together? Do you guys avoid eating bread
or pasta and high-carb foods like that all together, or should you mix
up a very limited amount in your diet. I'm finding it hard to avoid.
I haven't bought new groceries since I started this and when I look in
my cupboard it's all high carb pasta and soups, etc.

Do you avoid sugar mainly too?

Also, what is something good to drink? Besides water? I am drinking
a lot of water as well, but I need something else. Water doesn't
satisfy me at all. Any sort of fruit juices or milk or anything?
What's good for this diet?

You know, you might benefit from reading some of the books written about
low-carbing. If you're trying to do Atkins, you really need to read a
recent edition of his book.

Priscilla

Well, I'm basically doing it loosely. I'm not going to follow it to a
T, but I am trying to just cut my carb levels. Instead of having
carbs in every meal, I'm just going to try and avoid it more often.
All I'm really trying to find out is what are really high carb foods
and what I can replace some of my old favorites with. I'd simply like
to find a list of "good" and "bad" foods, really. Thanks for the
input.

"Not going to follow it to a T"????

At the risk of sounding rash, what we are trying to tell you is that there
is NO "doing it loosely"

IOW, if you do not read the book and understand how the diet works then IT
WILL NOT work for you because there is a 90% chance that you will do it
wrong. And even risk your health in the process.

This is why there are so many people out there that badmouth this diet
because "their friend" or "themselves" simply started eating what "they
thought" was the correct food etc and failed miserably with their own half
assed attempt at a diet that "they" dreamed up.

Normally I just lurk here but I have had it with all the misinformation
being thrown around about Dr Adkins and his diet.

Think of it like a Star Wars Movie quote: "There is no try, only do". Yeah
I know I got the quote wrong but my point is this: For the diet to work you
have to educate yourself first. Nobody will do that for you. This isn't a
fashion diet. It is a serious commitment to a lifestyle change FOREVER. Im
not trying to scare you away from this diet, but if it intimidates or
confuses you in the slightest then it is not for you.

Rant over.

What Gonzo said is largely right.

You can spend four or five bucks getting a paperback copy of Dr. Atkins New
Diet Revolution from Walmart or someplace, and the money will be well-spent.
We can sit here forever and try to tell you how it works, but he said it
better than I can, and maybe better than others can.

You can find your own path to your own eating habits according to what you
want to do with your life, and that book will help you. If it's not the
best investment you ever made in your life, I will buy it back from you. So
you have no risk.

We're all here because we all cut carbs some time ago, and now are just
comparing notes. We've all lost a good amount of weight doing it, and are
happy with the lifestyle.

What Gonzo said is largely right.

You can spend four or five bucks getting a paperback copy of Dr. Atkins New
Diet Revolution from Walmart or someplace, and the money will be well-spent.
We can sit here forever and try to tell you how it works, but he said it
better than I can, and maybe better than others can.

You can find your own path to your own eating habits according to what you
want to do with your life, and that book will help you. If it's not the
best investment you ever made in your life, I will buy it back from you. So
you have no risk.

We're all here because we all cut carbs some time ago, and now are just
comparing notes. We've all lost a good amount of weight doing it, and are
happy with the lifestyle.

Jumpin' Jack Flash wrote:

Well, I'm basically doing it loosely. I'm not going to follow it to a
T, but I am trying to just cut my carb levels. Instead of having
carbs in every meal, I'm just going to try and avoid it more often.
All I'm really trying to find out is what are really high carb foods
and what I can replace some of my old favorites with. I'd simply like
to find a list of "good" and "bad" foods, really. Thanks for the
input.

I disagree with the posters who have suggested that you must follow Atkins
exactly or do nothing at all. But I do not disagree with the recommendation
that you read a book about low carb dieting. Reading a book does not mean
you have to follow the plan in that book. It will give you a sense of the
theory underlying the diet so that you can make informed choices.

A list of "good" and "bad" foods will suffer from several weaknesses.
First, it will not be comprehensive, so that when you come across something
not on your list you will not know whether it is available to you. Second,
many foods don't fit that neatly into "good" and "bad" categories - there
are many foods that might be too carby for one person, but that another
person can eat happily in small or medium quantities. For example, I eat an
apple almost every day, but some Atkins dieters (I am not one) would not be
able to fit that into their carb budget, or would find that for them it sets
off cravings.

If you peruse www.atkins.com, you will find some lists that can at least get
you started. There is a list of foods allowed on induction, which is a much
more restrictive list than many here eat long term - it excludes all fruits
and nuts, for example. If you look at the sample menus for the other stages
of the Atkins diet, you can deduce from the foods included in the menus
other foods that might be sensible choices on a low-carb plan. But
principally, if you come to understand what makes a certain food a better or
a worse choice on the plan, you will be able to make your own choices going
forward.

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek