Obese people fight for rights

Submission made to Human Rights Commission arguing obese people should get
anti-discrimination rights

1 October 2003

A Wellington woman who is fighting discrimination against the obese says
many jump to the conclusion that large people are lazy and eat junk food
all day.

Sarah Crutch has made a submission to the Human Rights Commission that
obese people should get similar anti-discrimination rights to people with
disabilities, homosexuals and minorities.

Ms Crutch says there are many medical reasons for obesity but people assume
that being fat is a character flaw.

She says small seats at cinemas and tightly packed restaurants are a
nightmare for larger people.

Ms Crutch says while a discrimination law would not change attitudes
overnight, it might make people think before they act.

****

Further proof of NAAFA's hidden agenda.

-- Steve
º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤º
Steve Chaney

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"If only sheep could cook, we wouldn't need women at all! 8)" - Dizzy,
Message-ID:
"Outside of this group, I don't remember hearing anyone in RL say that fat
people are worthless." - some anonymous coward admitting the truth,
Message-ID:
"I watched The Accused last night with Jodie Foster. Tough movie. I was
wondering what people felt as to whether or not they feel she deserved what
happened to her." - Brenda Lee Ehmka, Message-ID:

"Jade, your whole existence is spent trying to find people you can justify
vetting your rage toward thorugh all forms of harassment. Do you realize
that?" - Sunny, on Jade's life in a nutshell

Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!


"Steve Chaney, aka Papa Gunnykins ®" wrote in
message ...
Submission made to Human Rights Commission arguing obese people should get
anti-discrimination rights

1 October 2003

A Wellington woman who is fighting discrimination against the obese says
many jump to the conclusion that large people are lazy and eat junk food
all day.

Sarah Crutch has made a submission to the Human Rights Commission that
obese people should get similar anti-discrimination rights to people with
disabilities, homosexuals and minorities.

Ms Crutch says there are many medical reasons for obesity but people
assume
that being fat is a character flaw.

She says small seats at cinemas and tightly packed restaurants are a
nightmare for larger people.

Ms Crutch says while a discrimination law would not change attitudes
overnight, it might make people think before they act.

****

Further proof of NAAFA's hidden agenda.

-- Steve
º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤º
Steve Chaney

Remove "Vegetus." to get my real email address
See the soc.singles HALL OF STUPID:
http://member.newsguy.com/~gunhed/hallofstupid
"If only sheep could cook, we wouldn't need women at all! 8)" - Dizzy,
Message-ID:
"Outside of this group, I don't remember hearing anyone in RL say that fat
people are worthless." - some anonymous coward admitting the truth,
Message-ID:
"I watched The Accused last night with Jodie Foster. Tough movie. I was
wondering what people felt as to whether or not they feel she deserved
what
happened to her." - Brenda Lee Ehmka, Message-ID:

"Jade, your whole existence is spent trying to find people you can justify
vetting your rage toward thorugh all forms of harassment. Do you realize
that?" - Sunny, on Jade's life in a nutshell

Incorrect. that only applies to fat people who are not trying. to fat people
who instead of trying are trying to force acceptance of something repulsive
onto people (YES I am fat and I think it is repulsive)

Some of us FAT people realize IT IS A character flaw and are working to fix
it.

35pounds so far gone and still counting.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Daniel Andrews" wrote in message
...
Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!


"Steve Chaney, aka Papa Gunnykins ®" wrote
in
message ...
Submission made to Human Rights Commission arguing obese people should
get
anti-discrimination rights

1 October 2003

A Wellington woman who is fighting discrimination against the obese says
many jump to the conclusion that large people are lazy and eat junk food
all day.

Sarah Crutch has made a submission to the Human Rights Commission that
obese people should get similar anti-discrimination rights to people
with
disabilities, homosexuals and minorities.

Ms Crutch says there are many medical reasons for obesity but people
assume
that being fat is a character flaw.

She says small seats at cinemas and tightly packed restaurants are a
nightmare for larger people.

Ms Crutch says while a discrimination law would not change attitudes
overnight, it might make people think before they act.

****

Further proof of NAAFA's hidden agenda.

-- Steve
º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤º
Steve Chaney

Remove "Vegetus." to get my real email address
See the soc.singles HALL OF STUPID:
http://member.newsguy.com/~gunhed/hallofstupid
"If only sheep could cook, we wouldn't need women at all! 8)" - Dizzy,
Message-ID:
"Outside of this group, I don't remember hearing anyone in RL say that
fat
people are worthless." - some anonymous coward admitting the truth,
Message-ID:
"I watched The Accused last night with Jodie Foster. Tough movie. I was
wondering what people felt as to whether or not they feel she deserved
what
happened to her." - Brenda Lee Ehmka, Message-ID:

"Jade, your whole existence is spent trying to find people you can
justify
vetting your rage toward thorugh all forms of harassment. Do you realize
that?" - Sunny, on Jade's life in a nutshell

Daniel Andrews wrote:

Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!

You're a real genious.

Howard

awwwww
thanks



"Howard Garland" wrote in message
...
Daniel Andrews wrote:

Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!

You're a real genious.

Howard

Chris Taylor Jr wrote:

Incorrect. that only applies to fat people who are not trying. to fat people
who instead of trying are trying to force acceptance of something repulsive
onto people (YES I am fat and I think it is repulsive)

Some of us FAT people realize IT IS A character flaw and are working to fix
it.

Stupidity is repulsive to me!

Chris Taylor Jr wrote:
Incorrect. that only applies to fat people who are not trying. to fat
people who instead of trying are trying to force acceptance of
something repulsive onto people (YES I am fat and I think it is
repulsive)

Some of us FAT people realize IT IS A character flaw and are working
to fix it.

A character flaw? Do you really think that? I never thought being fat was
a character flaw -- I did think that people who picked on fat people had
serious character flaws, however. No -- I cannot buy that. I cannot think
that fat=character flaw. Why do you think that?

35pounds so far gone and still counting.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Daniel Andrews" wrote in message
...
Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!


"Steve Chaney, aka Papa Gunnykins ®"
wrote in message ...
Submission made to Human Rights Commission arguing obese people
should get anti-discrimination rights

1 October 2003

A Wellington woman who is fighting discrimination against the obese
says many jump to the conclusion that large people are lazy and eat
junk food all day.

Sarah Crutch has made a submission to the Human Rights Commission
that obese people should get similar anti-discrimination rights to
people with disabilities, homosexuals and minorities.

Ms Crutch says there are many medical reasons for obesity but
people assume that being fat is a character flaw.

She says small seats at cinemas and tightly packed restaurants are a
nightmare for larger people.

Ms Crutch says while a discrimination law would not change attitudes
overnight, it might make people think before they act.

****

Further proof of NAAFA's hidden agenda.

-- Steve
º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤º
Steve Chaney

Remove "Vegetus." to get my real email address
See the soc.singles HALL OF STUPID:
http://member.newsguy.com/~gunhed/hallofstupid
"If only sheep could cook, we wouldn't need women at all! 8)" -
Dizzy, Message-ID:
"Outside of this group, I don't remember hearing anyone in RL say
that fat people are worthless." - some anonymous coward admitting
the truth, Message-ID:
"I watched The
Accused last night with Jodie Foster. Tough movie. I was wondering
what people felt as to whether or not they feel she deserved what
happened to her." - Brenda Lee Ehmka, Message-ID:
"Jade, your whole existence is
spent trying to find people you can justify vetting your rage
toward thorugh all forms of harassment. Do you realize that?" -
Sunny, on Jade's life in a nutshell


--
nimue

"Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was
that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder

nimue wrote:
Chris Taylor Jr wrote:
Incorrect. that only applies to fat people who are not trying. to fat
people who instead of trying are trying to force acceptance of
something repulsive onto people (YES I am fat and I think it is
repulsive)

Some of us FAT people realize IT IS A character flaw and are working
to fix it.

A character flaw? Do you really think that? I never thought being
fat was a character flaw -- I did think that people who picked on fat
people had serious character flaws, however. No -- I cannot buy
that. I cannot think that fat=character flaw. Why do you think that?

This is bothering me SO much I had to add to my own reply. Why on earth is
being fat a character flaw? I mean, my husbands eats like a pig -- Nestle
Quick chocolate milk, Haagen Daasz, Chips Ahoy, Peanut Butter M&Ms -- these
are his staple foods and the man is 6 feet tall and 160 pounds. If I ate
the way he does, I would weigh a zillion pounds, and not because of any
character flaw either. I just haven't been blessed with his metabolism. He
has the same craving for sweet yummies that most of us do -- and he gives
into that craving -- is that a character flaw? If it is, he sure never
hears about it, because he's a thin guy.

35pounds so far gone and still counting.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Daniel Andrews" wrote in message
...
Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!


"Steve Chaney, aka Papa Gunnykins ®"
wrote in message ...
Submission made to Human Rights Commission arguing obese people
should get anti-discrimination rights

1 October 2003

A Wellington woman who is fighting discrimination against the obese
says many jump to the conclusion that large people are lazy and eat
junk food all day.

Sarah Crutch has made a submission to the Human Rights Commission
that obese people should get similar anti-discrimination rights to
people with disabilities, homosexuals and minorities.

Ms Crutch says there are many medical reasons for obesity but
people assume that being fat is a character flaw.

She says small seats at cinemas and tightly packed restaurants are
a nightmare for larger people.

Ms Crutch says while a discrimination law would not change
attitudes overnight, it might make people think before they act.

****

Further proof of NAAFA's hidden agenda.

-- Steve
º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤º
Steve Chaney

Remove "Vegetus." to get my real email address
See the soc.singles HALL OF STUPID:
http://member.newsguy.com/~gunhed/hallofstupid
"If only sheep could cook, we wouldn't need women at all! 8)" -
Dizzy, Message-ID:
"Outside of this group, I don't remember hearing anyone in RL say
that fat people are worthless." - some anonymous coward admitting
the truth, Message-ID:
"I watched The
Accused last night with Jodie Foster. Tough movie. I was wondering
what people felt as to whether or not they feel she deserved what
happened to her." - Brenda Lee Ehmka, Message-ID:
"Jade, your whole existence is
spent trying to find people you can justify vetting your rage
toward thorugh all forms of harassment. Do you realize that?" -
Sunny, on Jade's life in a nutshell


--
nimue

"Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was
that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder

Ok I guess that depends on what you define the phrase "character flaw" to me

to me it means something in my character that is counterproductive to proper
normal (not societal normal which is totally up in the air)

Eating too much and not stopping the problem before I gained nearly 200
pounds to me is something in my character that is counterproductive to
proper normal (not being fat)

we must think it means two different things.

I do not see character flaws as insults. I simply see them as problems
requiring repair or correction.

I no longer have this character flaw. I no longer gain weight or overeat. so
I have corrected that flaw. now I must correct the damage this flaw has
caused me (being fat)

Sorry for the confusion

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/


"nimue" wrote in message
...
Chris Taylor Jr wrote:
Incorrect. that only applies to fat people who are not trying. to fat
people who instead of trying are trying to force acceptance of
something repulsive onto people (YES I am fat and I think it is
repulsive)

Some of us FAT people realize IT IS A character flaw and are working
to fix it.

A character flaw? Do you really think that? I never thought being fat
was
a character flaw -- I did think that people who picked on fat people had
serious character flaws, however. No -- I cannot buy that. I cannot
think
that fat=character flaw. Why do you think that?

35pounds so far gone and still counting.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Daniel Andrews" wrote in message
...
Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!


"Steve Chaney, aka Papa Gunnykins ®"
wrote in message ...
Submission made to Human Rights Commission arguing obese people
should get anti-discrimination rights

1 October 2003

A Wellington woman who is fighting discrimination against the obese
says many jump to the conclusion that large people are lazy and eat
junk food all day.

Sarah Crutch has made a submission to the Human Rights Commission
that obese people should get similar anti-discrimination rights to
people with disabilities, homosexuals and minorities.

Ms Crutch says there are many medical reasons for obesity but
people assume that being fat is a character flaw.

She says small seats at cinemas and tightly packed restaurants are a
nightmare for larger people.

Ms Crutch says while a discrimination law would not change attitudes
overnight, it might make people think before they act.

****

Further proof of NAAFA's hidden agenda.

-- Steve
º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤º
Steve Chaney

Remove "Vegetus." to get my real email address
See the soc.singles HALL OF STUPID:
http://member.newsguy.com/~gunhed/hallofstupid
"If only sheep could cook, we wouldn't need women at all! 8)" -
Dizzy, Message-ID:
"Outside of this group, I don't remember hearing anyone in RL say
that fat people are worthless." - some anonymous coward admitting
the truth, Message-ID:
"I watched The
Accused last night with Jodie Foster. Tough movie. I was wondering
what people felt as to whether or not they feel she deserved what
happened to her." - Brenda Lee Ehmka, Message-ID:
"Jade, your whole existence is
spent trying to find people you can justify vetting your rage
toward thorugh all forms of harassment. Do you realize that?" -
Sunny, on Jade's life in a nutshell


--
nimue

"Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was
that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder

ahh but it is not a character flaw in you. why ? because you do NOT eat like
that because you know and realize what would happen if you did and acted
accordingly.

I did not. I overate to the toll of 200 pounds above normal.

I call that a flaw. maybe what you think of as a character flaw is different
than how I think of it.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"nimue" wrote in message
...
nimue wrote:
Chris Taylor Jr wrote:
Incorrect. that only applies to fat people who are not trying. to fat
people who instead of trying are trying to force acceptance of
something repulsive onto people (YES I am fat and I think it is
repulsive)

Some of us FAT people realize IT IS A character flaw and are working
to fix it.

A character flaw? Do you really think that? I never thought being
fat was a character flaw -- I did think that people who picked on fat
people had serious character flaws, however. No -- I cannot buy
that. I cannot think that fat=character flaw. Why do you think that?

This is bothering me SO much I had to add to my own reply. Why on earth
is
being fat a character flaw? I mean, my husbands eats like a pig -- Nestle
Quick chocolate milk, Haagen Daasz, Chips Ahoy, Peanut Butter M&Ms --
these
are his staple foods and the man is 6 feet tall and 160 pounds. If I ate
the way he does, I would weigh a zillion pounds, and not because of any
character flaw either. I just haven't been blessed with his metabolism.
He
has the same craving for sweet yummies that most of us do -- and he gives
into that craving -- is that a character flaw? If it is, he sure never
hears about it, because he's a thin guy.

35pounds so far gone and still counting.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Daniel Andrews" wrote in message
...
Fat people should be shot!!
they are just lazy.........and thats it!!!
they are not motivated and discipline enough........
and thats just it!!!!


"Steve Chaney, aka Papa Gunnykins ®"
wrote in message ...
Submission made to Human Rights Commission arguing obese people
should get anti-discrimination rights

1 October 2003

A Wellington woman who is fighting discrimination against the obese
says many jump to the conclusion that large people are lazy and eat
junk food all day.

Sarah Crutch has made a submission to the Human Rights Commission
that obese people should get similar anti-discrimination rights to
people with disabilities, homosexuals and minorities.

Ms Crutch says there are many medical reasons for obesity but
people assume that being fat is a character flaw.

She says small seats at cinemas and tightly packed restaurants are
a nightmare for larger people.

Ms Crutch says while a discrimination law would not change
attitudes overnight, it might make people think before they act.

****

Further proof of NAAFA's hidden agenda.

-- Steve
º¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤º
Steve Chaney

Remove "Vegetus." to get my real email address
See the soc.singles HALL OF STUPID:
http://member.newsguy.com/~gunhed/hallofstupid
"If only sheep could cook, we wouldn't need women at all! 8)" -
Dizzy, Message-ID:
"Outside of this group, I don't remember hearing anyone in RL say
that fat people are worthless." - some anonymous coward admitting
the truth, Message-ID:
"I watched The
Accused last night with Jodie Foster. Tough movie. I was wondering
what people felt as to whether or not they feel she deserved what
happened to her." - Brenda Lee Ehmka, Message-ID:
"Jade, your whole existence is
spent trying to find people you can justify vetting your rage
toward thorugh all forms of harassment. Do you realize that?" -
Sunny, on Jade's life in a nutshell


--
nimue

"Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was
that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other
underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people."

Curtis Armstrong

"I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More
Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike."
Clairel

"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder