the fight

As I move down in weight, I seem to do battle with everyone that used to
support me back when I weighed 300. Once you get below the BMI of the fat
people you know, they become serious adversaries to what you are doing.

I liked the warm fuzzy feeling that the world was on my side. Now, I'm left
with a hostile attitude where I am defensive about food.

I want to do this for me, and not be distracted with spiteful thoughts
against those who tempt me with food.

Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

Cubit
190/173/160

Lately, it seems like my 20 pound dog eats more than I do.

On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:11:34 -0800, "Cubit" wrote:

As I move down in weight, I seem to do battle with everyone that used to
support me back when I weighed 300. Once you get below the BMI of the fat
people you know, they become serious adversaries to what you are doing.

I liked the warm fuzzy feeling that the world was on my side. Now, I'm left
with a hostile attitude where I am defensive about food.

I want to do this for me, and not be distracted with spiteful thoughts
against those who tempt me with food.

Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

Cubit
190/173/160

Lately, it seems like my 20 pound dog eats more than I do.


You need to find friends with whom you have a shared interest other
than gluttony :-). Do you belong to any clubs or anything?

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

On Apr 3, 11:11 pm, "Cubit" wrote:
As I move down in weight, I seem to do battle with everyone that used to
support me back when I weighed 300. Once you get below the BMI of the fat
people you know, they become serious adversaries to what you are doing.

I liked the warm fuzzy feeling that the world was on my side. Now, I'm left
with a hostile attitude where I am defensive about food.

I want to do this for me, and not be distracted with spiteful thoughts
against those who tempt me with food.

Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

Cubit
190/173/160

Lately, it seems like my 20 pound dog eats more than I do.

It's a shame that your friends make you feel that way, its the same
with any form of success, people tend to get envious.
What they need to learn is that food is not entertainment, it is fuel
for the body.
It's like putting gas in your car, you put in as much as you need, if
you put in too much gas spills out into the ground , with your body
too much fuel gets stored.
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On Apr 4, 12:11 am, "Cubit" wrote:
As I move down in weight, I seem to do battle with everyone that used to
support me back when I weighed 300. Once you get below the BMI of thefatpeopleyou know, they become serious adversaries to what you are doing.

I liked the warm fuzzy feeling that the world was on my side. Now, I'm left
with a hostile attitude where I am defensive about food.

I want to do this for me, and not be distracted with spiteful thoughts
against those who tempt me with food.

I find myself in this situation as well and I can sympathize with you
because I know it hurts. People you thought were friends turn out to
be people who only associated with you to make themselves feel better
about being fat. Once you start to lose sizable amounts of weight they
can no longer point to you behind your back as say at least I'm not
nearly as obese as her.

Many of my friends are heavy and among them I was always the heaviest,
until recently. After more than two years of dieting hell I'm finally
getting down to the size that no longer makes me the heaviest in my
circle of friends and it appears that some of my former associates
feel quite threatened. Once this sets in, the hostility and in some
cases the actual sabotage begins.

Unfortunately this is all too common in many instances. But I have
found that just as recovering drug abusers must remove themselves from
the association of fellow drug abusers, recovering food abusers also
must disassociate them selves from fellow food abusers. Try it you
will be better off.

Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

I agree, maybe someone should invent a V chip that can block those
commercials. Imagine the fortune they could make.

Regards
BR.

On Apr 4, 1:16 pm, "Renee" wrote:

On Apr 4, 12:11 am, "Cubit" wrote:

As I move down in weight, I seem to do battle with everyone that used to
support me back when I weighed 300. Once you get below the BMI of thefatpeopleyou know, they become serious adversaries to what you are doing.

I liked the warm fuzzy feeling that the world was on my side. Now, I'm left
with a hostile attitude where I am defensive about food.

I find myself in this situation as well and I can sympathize with you
because I know it hurts.

I've heard a psychologist say that spouses can sabotage healthy
habits, too.

Many of my friends are heavy and among them I was always the heaviest,
until recently. After more than two years of dieting hell I'm finally
getting down to the size that no longer makes me the heaviest in my
circle of friends and it appears that some of my former associates
feel quite threatened.

Two years of dieting hell? Well, first, good job having the willpower
to do that. But are you sure that you are dieting the right way? I
wanted to lose fifty pounds but I plateaued (spelling?) after about
ten. But then I finally gave up refined foods - or at least grains
without fiber and started eating really little meals (snacks, really)
every three hours and I started losing again. If you eat, even a small
meal, the body thinks that the food supply is plentiful and it's safe
to burn fat and lose weight [1]. Since I'm eating every three hours
I'm constantly in the "fed state", and burning fat. Eating three rice
cakes is enough to do it, and they come in cheese flavor, so I enjoy
the taste (they come in chocolate, too, for 15 more calories a cake,
which is a small transgression . I eat cheese popcorn, too. One meal
a day is a regular meal, 600 calories, and I have an 8 ounce can of
coke with it. I've been loosing 1 1/2 pounds a week that way. I think
about food a lot, but it isn't that intense craving that leads to
hedonistic eating that wrecks a diet.

Of course, if you are eating white rice or bread that isn't whole
grain whole wheat [2], the body digests it quickly, so you have more
energy than you need and it gets stored as fat. Then, before the three
hours is up, the body runs out of fuel from the white bread and goes
into the "fasting state", where it slows the metabolism ( the normal
processes of repair that the body constantly does) down to conserve
fat. So you lose, er, gain, both ways: you put on fat first and then
you don't take it back off.

Has anybody here heard of Brenda Watson's Fiber 35 program? I saw it
on public television. She says that dietary fiber sequesters food in
the intestines so that it doesn't get digested. In other words, you
can eat more food and still loose weight. She shows plates of food
that represent the typical American diet [3]. The portions look kinda
small, but she says that it adds up to 1600 calories. Then she shows
plates of food with Fiber 35 menu foods on them. They are practically
overflowing with food, there's so much. She says that when you
subtract the calories that the 35 grams of fiber keep you from
digesting, you have a net caloric intake of 800 calories. I think just
about anybody could loose weight eating that amount per day. Oh, she
recommends exercising, too. My local PBS station's website is selling
the Fiber 35 program materials, if anybody is interested:

https://www.kcts.org/members/pledge/index.asp

Feel free to pledge to my station, or you can look for your own local
PBS station and get it from them.

I read in "You: On A Diet" that each additional pound of muscle burns
between 40 and 120 calories per day. It gives exercises that you can
do (no gym required) to build up your core muscles and that could
really help with both getting rid of weight and with keeping it off
after you're done. I get the impression that maintaining muscle mass
is the thing that burns the most calories, more than aerobic exercise.
although the author, Michael F. Roizen, recommends also walking for 30
minutes a day.

Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

How about just making the TV commercials showing unhealthy food
illegal. Like the way they outlawed commericals for tobacco products
on TV.

I agree, maybe someone should invent a V chip that can block those
commercials. Imagine the fortune they could make.

The advertising industry and big business will spend whatever it takes
to make sure that that never happens. Using part of the money that we
pay for the products we buy from them, too.

Sean, long winded today

P.S.: I heard that being overweight increases the likelihood of
getting diabetes. Diabetes can make you blind and can require that you
have your feet amputated. That's my motivation, to diet and keep them.

[1] Well, the body doesn't really think, but it acts as if it does.

[2] Every brand of whole grain whole wheat bread I've seen has high
fructose corn syrup, which makes it just as bad as eating white bread.
Totally defeats the purpose of making it whole grain. My Mom says that
Trader Joe's has whole grain bread without the corn syrup, but I
haven't checked on that.

[3] Breakfast: Bagel with cream cheese. Lunch: Hamburger and fries.
Dinner: Fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and green beans.

"Cubit" wrote
Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

If I see that KFC commercial with "all your favorites!" one more time,
I'm going to scream. Other women are fantasizing over patrick Dempsey, I'm
fantasizing over Colonel Sanders...

And whoever penned that "you are always on my mind" ad, with the people
dragging the scales around on their ankles, should get an Obie.

XXXXXXgizzieXXXXXX
(223/173/120)
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Voe: Good! Really good! Now, arch your back
and tighten **here**, you should feel it in--

gizzie: WAIT!!! Wait....that can't be right. I just
felt the gate slam shut on the playground....

Personal Training, lesson four

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"Cubit" wrote in message
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As I move down in weight, I seem to do battle with everyone that used to
support me back when I weighed 300. Once you get below the BMI of the fat
people you know, they become serious adversaries to what you are doing.

I liked the warm fuzzy feeling that the world was on my side. Now, I'm
left with a hostile attitude where I am defensive about food.

I want to do this for me, and not be distracted with spiteful thoughts
against those who tempt me with food.

Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

I have an issue with a friend at work who is heavy (where I am not, but
working on removing a minor gain) and my friend seems set on subtle
sabotage. After 9 yrs of working together she knows my weaknesses pretty
well, and a few weeks ago once the weight loss I'm striving for started
becoming noticable in my clothes, I started finding little candy treats (my
favorite kind, peauntbutter/chocolate) on my desk, keyboard, or chair a few
times a day. I can easily turn that stuff aside when its in a candy dish in
someone elses office, but dammit, if its right in front of my face, I will
eat it without even thinking. I can easily consume an extra 300+ cals a
day in those stupid things.

I don't think it is intentional, conscious sabatoge, but you know how it is,
on some subconscious level they are jealous and are working to try and
sabatoge you.


Cubit
190/173/160

Lately, it seems like my 20 pound dog eats more than I do.

Oh, how true this is! My 50lb dog eats more than me! Its not fair!

LFM wrote:
I have an issue with a friend at work who is heavy (where I am not,
but working on removing a minor gain) and my friend seems set on
subtle sabotage. After 9 yrs of working together she knows my
weaknesses pretty well, and a few weeks ago once the weight loss I'm
striving for started becoming noticable in my clothes, I started
finding little candy treats (my favorite kind,
peauntbutter/chocolate) on my desk, keyboard, or chair a few times a
day. I can easily turn that stuff aside when its in a candy dish in
someone elses office, but dammit, if its right in front of my face, I
will eat it without even thinking. I can easily consume an extra
300+ cals a day in those stupid things.
I don't think it is intentional, conscious sabatoge, but you know how
it is, on some subconscious level they are jealous and are working to
try and sabatoge you.

Did she used to leave candy on your chair and keyboard before? If not, don't
kid yourself. I could see it maybe being subconscious if she started
stocking the candy dish on her desk with your favorites but going out of her
way to put a piece on your chair several times a day?? Sounds pretty
conscious and intentional to me.
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

On Apr 5, 5:57 am, "Jeri" wrote:
LFM wrote:
I have an issue with a friend at work who is heavy (where I am not,
but working on removing a minor gain) and my friend seems set on
subtle sabotage. After 9 yrs of working together she knows my
weaknesses pretty well, and a few weeks ago once the weight loss I'm
striving for started becoming noticable in my clothes, I started
finding little candy treats (my favorite kind,
peauntbutter/chocolate) on my desk, keyboard, or chair a few times a
day. I can easily turn that stuff aside when its in a candy dish in
someone elses office, but dammit, if its right in front of my face, I
will eat it without even thinking. I can easily consume an extra
300+ cals a day in those stupid things.
I don't think it is intentional, conscious sabatoge, but you know how
it is, on some subconscious level they are jealous and are working to
try and sabatoge you.

Did she used to leave candy on your chair and keyboard before? If not, don't
kid yourself. I could see it maybe being subconscious if she started
stocking the candy dish on her desk with your favorites but going out of her
way to put a piece on your chair several times a day?? Sounds pretty
conscious and intentional to me.

It might be motivated by pity rather than anything sinister. Ive found
that the morbidly obese folks at my company, at least the ones in
denial, feel sorry for me that I have to exercise, ride my bike, and
choose my food carefully. I've come across folks who are upset that
I'm doing what they haven't been able to do, but usually it's pity
they feel. I get knowing smiles when I mention being sore from lifting
or physical therapy, when I mention getting my bike serviced or
adjusted, etc. Meanwhile, I smile inwardly when I see them waddle down
the hallways or brace themselves when they attempt to stand.

On Apr 4, 7:08 am, Chris Braun wrote:
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:11:34 -0800, "Cubit" wrote:
As I move down in weight, I seem to do battle with everyone that used to
support me back when I weighed 300. Once you get below the BMI of the fat
people you know, they become serious adversaries to what you are doing.

I liked the warm fuzzy feeling that the world was on my side. Now, I'm left
with a hostile attitude where I am defensive about food.

I want to do this for me, and not be distracted with spiteful thoughts
against those who tempt me with food.

Also, TV commercials showing food should be illegal.

Cubit
190/173/160

Lately, it seems like my 20 pound dog eats more than I do.

You need to find friends with whom you have a shared interest other
than gluttony :-). Do you belong to any clubs or anything?

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004

Hi Chris, you inspired me to make a post on my blog on this very topic
:
http://historian2wheels.blogspot.com...-you-keep.html