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Old December 11th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Larry Hodges
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Jim wrote:
"Lady Veteran" wrote in message
news
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On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s
(Gandolf Parker) wrote:

On 8 Dec 2004,
(Bernadette Bosky) wrote:

In article ,
On 6 Dec 2004,
(Bernadette Bosky) wrote:

Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit.
However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit,
and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner
people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people.

This very long term study of thousands of men and women
demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate
than allegedly fit-fat women.

16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which
is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still
in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can
make
percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes
this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.)
I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual
deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard
ratios?

Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual
sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read
the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented.

Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL!


Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it?


LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."

- --Unknown
- -------------------------------


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All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end
pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff?

Jim


It matches her ass Jim.
--
-Larry


  #12  
Old December 11th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Larry Hodges
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Jim wrote:
"Lady Veteran" wrote in message
news
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s
(Gandolf Parker) wrote:

On 8 Dec 2004,
(Bernadette Bosky) wrote:

In article ,
On 6 Dec 2004,
(Bernadette Bosky) wrote:

Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit.
However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit,
and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner
people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people.

This very long term study of thousands of men and women
demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate
than allegedly fit-fat women.

16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which
is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still
in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can
make
percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes
this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.)
I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual
deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard
ratios?

Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual
sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read
the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented.

Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL!


Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it?


LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."

- --Unknown
- -------------------------------


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All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end
pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff?

Jim


It matches her ass Jim.
--
-Larry


  #13  
Old December 11th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Larry Hodges
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Jim wrote:
"Lady Veteran" wrote in message
news
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 9 Dec 2004 03:21:46 -0000, s
(Gandolf Parker) wrote:

On 8 Dec 2004,
(Bernadette Bosky) wrote:

In article ,
On 6 Dec 2004,
(Bernadette Bosky) wrote:

Yes, fitness is important, and a lot of fat people are unfit.
However, multiple studies show that people can be fat and fit,
and that those people are generally as healthy as thinner
people, more healthy than non-fit thinner people.

This very long term study of thousands of men and women
demonstrates that thin-unfit women have a lower mortality rate
than allegedly fit-fat women.

16 to 12 years is decent, yeah. I've seen 30 years or more, which
is probbaly better, especially since the average subject was still
in an age in whcih not many people are dying, so a few deaths can
make
percentages seem much more significant than they are. (Campos makes
this point very well, with numbers from actual studies.)
I have to say the abstract confuses me. Did they count actual
deaths, or just deaths predicted by how people scored on the hazard
ratios?

Are you providing us with another stellar example of intellectual
sloth, or are you intentionally misrepresenting the facts? Re-read
the abstract and try responding to the actual facts presented.

Is this another example of you allegedly kicking my butt? LOL!


Gee, sounds like syphilis, doesn't it?


LV


Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."

- --Unknown
- -------------------------------


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All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end
pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff?

Jim


It matches her ass Jim.
--
-Larry


  #14  
Old December 11th, 2004, 04:34 AM
Xtile
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Jim wrote:

All that crap in your posts overwhelmes whatever you are saying. end
pgp..signature? whats up with that stuff?

Jim


Agreed.....it was totally nonsensical.
Tom
 




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