anyone buy meds online?

determined wrote:

I hope I've been around here long enough that you all know that I'm not a
whacko... I've been contemplating an appetite suppressant for short term
use - 30 days or less. I'm struggling to get on top of my eating. I'm
exercising plenty, but the eating part is just not coming into a reasonable
zone. I am pretty stressed lately, and this may be a copout, but it's the
route I'm planning on trying for awhile. I think I'd like to try
phentermine, at half of the lowest dosage, to help curb my appetite a bit.
I know my doc will not prescribe, because I'm already at a healthy weight,
although at the upper end of healthy bodyfat %.

Has anyone had any experience with buying prescriptions online? Good or
bad?

You know, if you really intend to only use this as a temporary thing, I
don't see why you couldn't at least *ask* your doctor about it. I still
don't think it's a good idea, but it would be a less bad idea if you
could do it under your doctor's care. I'm sure your doc knows you're
not a drug seeker, so I don't think you'd have anything to lose by
discussing it with him or her.

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"determined" wrote:



I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group, I've
been around for about 8 years. I am 5'3", and weigh 127 lbs, and 24%
bodyfat. I don't know why you'd think that I would "diet later", since I've
been this close to my ideal weight for about 5 yrs, except for during and
after my recent pregnancy.

Anyways, I guess I should not have brought up such a controversial topic.

And it is exactly because you are no newbie that I found your question
especially disturbing.

Amy

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The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:
determined wrote:

I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group, I've
been around for about 8 years.

Diet pills don't care about any of that. They work the way they work,
and Cheese is right. It's just not a good idea.


I keep wondering what determined would say to a newbie who came in
here with that question......

"A Ross" wrote in message
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In article ,
"determined" wrote:



I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group,
I've
been around for about 8 years. I am 5'3", and weigh 127 lbs, and 24%
bodyfat. I don't know why you'd think that I would "diet later", since
I've
been this close to my ideal weight for about 5 yrs, except for during and
after my recent pregnancy.

Anyways, I guess I should not have brought up such a controversial topic.

And it is exactly because you are no newbie that I found your question
especially disturbing.

That's all right. I don't hold myself to such high standards that I never
allow myself to make a mistake. Even if you do.

determined wrote:
"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:
"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:
I hope I've been around here long enough that you all know that I'm not
a whacko... I've been contemplating an appetite suppressant for short
term use - 30 days or less. I'm struggling to get on top of my eating.
I'm exercising plenty, but the eating part is just not coming into a
reasonable zone. I am pretty stressed lately, and this may be a
copout, but it's the route I'm planning on trying for awhile. I think
I'd like to try phentermine, at half of the lowest dosage, to help curb
my appetite a bit. I know my doc will not prescribe, because I'm
already at a healthy weight, although at the upper end of healthy
bodyfat %.

Has anyone had any experience with buying prescriptions online? Good
or bad?
What about increasing your meals? Obviously I don't mean increasing the
calories but rather dividing your meals to offer more snacks throughout
the day. One of the hidden benefits of this is that when you get
distracted you might actually forget to eat a snack and therefore wind
up with a calorie deficit for the day. Just a thought from someone
against pills in general.

--

Cheese
You know, I understand being against pills, and in general so am I,
especially diet pills. But like I said, it's short term, and I'm already
doing everything I need to do. To lose the last 5 lbs, I'll have to go
much lower than where I am at now, and I just need a little help.
The pills will trick your body until you stop taking them. Once the
medication is gone you'll probably put the weight right back on again plus
more. What makes you think it'll be easier to cut calories later? Is that
like, "I'll diet later?" We all know what a failure that plan was ....

I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group, I've
been around for about 8 years. I am 5'3", and weigh 127 lbs, and 24%
bodyfat. I don't know why you'd think that I would "diet later", since I've
been this close to my ideal weight for about 5 yrs, except for during and
after my recent pregnancy.

Anyways, I guess I should not have brought up such a controversial topic.


I figured you'd "diet later" because you plan to take pills as a quick
fix (30 days) then later cut the calories to maintain the lower weight
the pills tricked you into believing you could maintain.

Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x pounds) + (4.7 x inches) - (4.7 x age)

I'll give you 300 calories burned through exercise and muscle mass and
assume you're eating ~1660 calories to maintain 127 lbs. If you'd
rather maintain 117 lbs you need to decrease that to 1620. You're
talking about a measly 40 calories a day. You can burn them with pills
now but in 30 days you'll still have to cut those 40 calories from your
daily consumption if you plan to maintain the newly achieved weight.
Again, why even risk the possible complications from diet pills as a
temporary fix?

--

Cheese

http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php

Cheese wrote:
determined wrote:

"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:

"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:

I hope I've been around here long enough that you all know that
I'm not a whacko... I've been contemplating an appetite
suppressant for short term use - 30 days or less. I'm struggling
to get on top of my eating. I'm exercising plenty, but the eating
part is just not coming into a reasonable zone. I am pretty
stressed lately, and this may be a copout, but it's the route I'm
planning on trying for awhile. I think I'd like to try
phentermine, at half of the lowest dosage, to help curb my
appetite a bit. I know my doc will not prescribe, because I'm
already at a healthy weight, although at the upper end of healthy
bodyfat %.

Has anyone had any experience with buying prescriptions online?
Good or bad?

What about increasing your meals? Obviously I don't mean
increasing the calories but rather dividing your meals to offer
more snacks throughout the day. One of the hidden benefits of this
is that when you get distracted you might actually forget to eat a
snack and therefore wind up with a calorie deficit for the day.
Just a thought from someone against pills in general.

--

Cheese

You know, I understand being against pills, and in general so am I,
especially diet pills. But like I said, it's short term, and I'm
already doing everything I need to do. To lose the last 5 lbs, I'll
have to go much lower than where I am at now, and I just need a
little help.

The pills will trick your body until you stop taking them. Once the
medication is gone you'll probably put the weight right back on again
plus more. What makes you think it'll be easier to cut calories
later? Is that like, "I'll diet later?" We all know what a failure
that plan was ....


I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group,
I've been around for about 8 years. I am 5'3", and weigh 127 lbs, and
24% bodyfat. I don't know why you'd think that I would "diet later",
since I've been this close to my ideal weight for about 5 yrs, except
for during and after my recent pregnancy.

Anyways, I guess I should not have brought up such a controversial topic.

I figured you'd "diet later" because you plan to take pills as a quick
fix (30 days) then later cut the calories to maintain the lower weight
the pills tricked you into believing you could maintain.

Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x pounds) + (4.7 x inches) - (4.7 x age)

I'll give you 300 calories burned through exercise and muscle mass and
assume you're eating ~1660 calories to maintain 127 lbs. If you'd
rather maintain 117 lbs you need to decrease that to 1620. You're
talking about a measly 40 calories a day. You can burn them with pills
now but in 30 days you'll still have to cut those 40 calories from your
daily consumption if you plan to maintain the newly achieved weight.
Again, why even risk the possible complications from diet pills as a
temporary fix?


Perhaps she was talking about stuff like meridia as a help to deal with
appetite or cravings. And I'm not convinced that cutting 40 calories a
day really does anything. I think there is a dead zone or set point in
the body's control system where it deals with minor variations in intake
to keep mass constant.



--
Del Cecchi
"This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions,
strategies or opinions.”

Del Cecchi wrote:
Cheese wrote:
determined wrote:

"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:

"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:

I hope I've been around here long enough that you all know that
I'm not a whacko... I've been contemplating an appetite
suppressant for short term use - 30 days or less. I'm struggling
to get on top of my eating. I'm exercising plenty, but the eating
part is just not coming into a reasonable zone. I am pretty
stressed lately, and this may be a copout, but it's the route I'm
planning on trying for awhile. I think I'd like to try
phentermine, at half of the lowest dosage, to help curb my
appetite a bit. I know my doc will not prescribe, because I'm
already at a healthy weight, although at the upper end of healthy
bodyfat %.

Has anyone had any experience with buying prescriptions online?
Good or bad?

What about increasing your meals? Obviously I don't mean
increasing the calories but rather dividing your meals to offer
more snacks throughout the day. One of the hidden benefits of
this is that when you get distracted you might actually forget to
eat a snack and therefore wind up with a calorie deficit for the
day. Just a thought from someone against pills in general.

--

Cheese

You know, I understand being against pills, and in general so am I,
especially diet pills. But like I said, it's short term, and I'm
already doing everything I need to do. To lose the last 5 lbs,
I'll have to go much lower than where I am at now, and I just need
a little help.

The pills will trick your body until you stop taking them. Once the
medication is gone you'll probably put the weight right back on
again plus more. What makes you think it'll be easier to cut
calories later? Is that like, "I'll diet later?" We all know what a
failure that plan was ....


I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group,
I've been around for about 8 years. I am 5'3", and weigh 127 lbs,
and 24% bodyfat. I don't know why you'd think that I would "diet
later", since I've been this close to my ideal weight for about 5
yrs, except for during and after my recent pregnancy.

Anyways, I guess I should not have brought up such a controversial
topic.

I figured you'd "diet later" because you plan to take pills as a quick
fix (30 days) then later cut the calories to maintain the lower weight
the pills tricked you into believing you could maintain.

Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x pounds) + (4.7 x inches) - (4.7 x age)

I'll give you 300 calories burned through exercise and muscle mass and
assume you're eating ~1660 calories to maintain 127 lbs. If you'd
rather maintain 117 lbs you need to decrease that to 1620. You're
talking about a measly 40 calories a day. You can burn them with
pills now but in 30 days you'll still have to cut those 40 calories
from your daily consumption if you plan to maintain the newly achieved
weight. Again, why even risk the possible complications from diet
pills as a temporary fix?


Perhaps she was talking about stuff like meridia as a help to deal with
appetite or cravings. And I'm not convinced that cutting 40 calories a
day really does anything. I think there is a dead zone or set point in
the body's control system where it deals with minor variations in intake
to keep mass constant.




This is no minor variation. This is a 5 year modification. After ~5
years the calories will have to be lowered again. That's how
maintenance works ...

--

Cheese

http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php

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determined wrote:
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determined wrote:
I hope I've been around here long enough that you all know that I'm
not a whacko... I've been contemplating an appetite suppressant for
short term use - 30 days or less. I'm struggling to get on top of my
eating. I'm exercising plenty, but the eating part is just not coming
into a reasonable zone. I am pretty stressed lately, and this may be
a copout, but it's the route I'm planning on trying for awhile. I
think I'd like to try phentermine, at half of the lowest dosage, to
help curb my appetite a bit. I know my doc will not prescribe,
because I'm already at a healthy weight, although at the upper end of
healthy bodyfat %.

Has anyone had any experience with buying prescriptions online? Good
or bad?
What about increasing your meals? Obviously I don't mean increasing
the calories but rather dividing your meals to offer more snacks
throughout the day. One of the hidden benefits of this is that when
you get distracted you might actually forget to eat a snack and
therefore wind up with a calorie deficit for the day. Just a thought
from someone against pills in general.

--

Cheese
You know, I understand being against pills, and in general so am I,
especially diet pills. But like I said, it's short term, and I'm
already doing everything I need to do. To lose the last 5 lbs, I'll
have to go much lower than where I am at now, and I just need a little
help.
The pills will trick your body until you stop taking them. Once the
medication is gone you'll probably put the weight right back on again
plus more. What makes you think it'll be easier to cut calories later?
Is that like, "I'll diet later?" We all know what a failure that plan
was ....

I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group,
I've been around for about 8 years. I am 5'3", and weigh 127 lbs, and
24% bodyfat. I don't know why you'd think that I would "diet later",
since I've been this close to my ideal weight for about 5 yrs, except for
during and after my recent pregnancy.

Anyways, I guess I should not have brought up such a controversial topic.
I figured you'd "diet later" because you plan to take pills as a quick fix
(30 days) then later cut the calories to maintain the lower weight the
pills tricked you into believing you could maintain.

Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x pounds) + (4.7 x inches) - (4.7 x age)

I'll give you 300 calories burned through exercise and muscle mass and
assume you're eating ~1660 calories to maintain 127 lbs. If you'd rather
maintain 117 lbs you need to decrease that to 1620. You're talking about
a measly 40 calories a day. You can burn them with pills now but in 30
days you'll still have to cut those 40 calories from your daily
consumption if you plan to maintain the newly achieved weight. Again, why
even risk the possible complications from diet pills as a temporary fix?

See, now I just don't believe you can drop your calories by such a small
amount and lose weight, even long term. The body adapts to those small
changes. Some studies indicate that a change up or down of 100-200 calories
will not neccessarily cause a gain or loss due to the body's adaptability.
So, while you may ned "X" amount of calories to maintain a certain weight,
you may have to cut calories much further to reach that point.

determined wrote:
"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:
"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:
"Cheese" wrote in message
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determined wrote:
I hope I've been around here long enough that you all know that I'm
not a whacko... I've been contemplating an appetite suppressant for
short term use - 30 days or less. I'm struggling to get on top of my
eating. I'm exercising plenty, but the eating part is just not coming
into a reasonable zone. I am pretty stressed lately, and this may be
a copout, but it's the route I'm planning on trying for awhile. I
think I'd like to try phentermine, at half of the lowest dosage, to
help curb my appetite a bit. I know my doc will not prescribe,
because I'm already at a healthy weight, although at the upper end of
healthy bodyfat %.

Has anyone had any experience with buying prescriptions online? Good
or bad?
What about increasing your meals? Obviously I don't mean increasing
the calories but rather dividing your meals to offer more snacks
throughout the day. One of the hidden benefits of this is that when
you get distracted you might actually forget to eat a snack and
therefore wind up with a calorie deficit for the day. Just a thought
from someone against pills in general.

--

Cheese
You know, I understand being against pills, and in general so am I,
especially diet pills. But like I said, it's short term, and I'm
already doing everything I need to do. To lose the last 5 lbs, I'll
have to go much lower than where I am at now, and I just need a little
help.
The pills will trick your body until you stop taking them. Once the
medication is gone you'll probably put the weight right back on again
plus more. What makes you think it'll be easier to cut calories later?
Is that like, "I'll diet later?" We all know what a failure that plan
was ....
I guess maybe you don't really know me. I'm no newbie to this group,
I've been around for about 8 years. I am 5'3", and weigh 127 lbs, and
24% bodyfat. I don't know why you'd think that I would "diet later",
since I've been this close to my ideal weight for about 5 yrs, except for
during and after my recent pregnancy.

Anyways, I guess I should not have brought up such a controversial topic.
I figured you'd "diet later" because you plan to take pills as a quick fix
(30 days) then later cut the calories to maintain the lower weight the
pills tricked you into believing you could maintain.

Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x pounds) + (4.7 x inches) - (4.7 x age)

I'll give you 300 calories burned through exercise and muscle mass and
assume you're eating ~1660 calories to maintain 127 lbs. If you'd rather
maintain 117 lbs you need to decrease that to 1620. You're talking about
a measly 40 calories a day. You can burn them with pills now but in 30
days you'll still have to cut those 40 calories from your daily
consumption if you plan to maintain the newly achieved weight. Again, why
even risk the possible complications from diet pills as a temporary fix?

See, now I just don't believe you can drop your calories by such a small
amount and lose weight, even long term. The body adapts to those small
changes. Some studies indicate that a change up or down of 100-200 calories
will not neccessarily cause a gain or loss due to the body's adaptability.
So, while you may ned "X" amount of calories to maintain a certain weight,
you may have to cut calories much further to reach that point.


Of course the body can adapt to small changes. That is what it is
designed to do and fat burning and storage is the mechanism. However,
if the long term average changes your body will eventually make a
change. Increasing or decreasing the average calories long term works.
The only thing you change by increasing more or less is the rate of
change. Once you're in maintenance you'll have plenty of time toy with
trivial things like this as I have for over 10 years. My tweaks are to
gain weight (support muscle growth) but it works the same way.
--

Cheese

http://cheesensweets.com/contacts/cheese.php

Del Cecchi wrote:

Perhaps she was talking about stuff like meridia as a help to deal with
appetite or cravings.

She was talking about phentermine.