AGAIN! YIKES!

In news:alt.support.diet, "Lictor" posted
on Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:25:55 +0200:

"JMA" wrote in message
...
Most people aren't looking for perfection and being "perfect" isn't real
anyway. It's dealing with your own foibles and flaws that make you
stronger
and help you grow on the inside instead of the outside

Exactly. I have read a psychiatrist who says that when dealing with
bulimics, he considers that one "moderate" event from time to time (like
once a month) is "good enough". He considers that trying to go for "perfect"
and attempting to cancel all the events is counter-productive and can be
unbalancing enough to cause full blown relapses.

I think accepting the fact that you just like certain foods and allowing
yourself to have them is just as important as adding a bunch of truly
good-for-you foods to your diet. I (male, 5'11") carried 215 pounds back
in December of 1996. I was down to 140 pounds by the end of August 1997.
What did I eat? Whatever the heck I wanted, including pizza,
cheeseburgers, tacos, regular sodas (not diet), etc...

I made five major changes, however, in what I was doing.

I was delivering pizza for a living at the time, which meant spending a lot
of time just driving around in the car. It also meant that I was at the
gas station just about every day. I burned between $400 and $500 worth of
gasoline every month. I had been in the habit of grabbing a candy bar or
soda or both every time I bought gas. I cut that behavior out completely.

The second major change was at restaurants. Let's face the fact that
restaurants have a goal of making us feel well-fed when we leave so we'll
come back for more pleasure. But actually we always leave feeling overfed
because they bring enough for one person to make three meals. My change in
behavior in this area included consuming at the restaurant the foods I knew
would not make good leftovers. For example, if I was having spaghetti with
meatballs, garlic breadsticks and a salad, I would consume the salad and
breadsticks at the restaurant, and just enough of the spaghetti to make
consuming the first two items more enjoyable. I'd take the rest of the
spaghetti home and eat it as leftovers.

The third major change was at fast food restaurants. No matter how hungry
I was, I either ordered a large burger with a medium regular soda and no
french fries, or a large order of fries and a regular soda with no burger,
or I'd order a child-sized burger, small fry and medium drink. If I was
eating at Taco Bueno, I'd always order just two tacos and a medium drink.
The result was that I left feeling quite satisfied, and not full at all. I
felt like I could walk right out of the dining room and onto a
rollercoaster.

The fourth major change is one that took some getting used to. It was
where the will power was used most. That's waiting until I'm actually
hungry to eat. And I'm not talking about feeling drained. I think feeling
drained has more to do with something not being quite right with our
previous meal. Typically, when I felt a truly genuine hunger, I was still
full of energy, which perhaps helped me tell the order-taker I wanted two
tacos and a medium drink instead of telling her, "I'll have three tacos, a
beef burrito, a side of nachos with extra cheese and a large Coke."

The fifth major change was at the grocery store. I do admit that I ate out
a lot. It's not that I didn't like cooking. I was just working two jobs
and seven days a week. I'm actually a pretty good cook. Anyway, one major
contributing factor to my weight loss was simply making the decision to
walk past the cookie aisle at the grocery store. And not only that, I just
made a conscious decision to not buy junk food. I didn't buy cookies,
crackers, chips, sodas, cake mixes, or anything else similar. I just
bought fruits, vegetables, meats, whole grain foods. I did buy cream of
mushroom soup, cheese, milk, eggs, and various common foods used in many
recipes. I even bought sugar. The concept is simple. If the stuff isn't
around the house, it won't be there for me to eat all the time. I did this
because if there's a bag of Double-Stuff Oreos in the kitchen and I know
about them, I won't rest until they're all gone. Yes, I'll pluck and
gobble until the whole bag has been consumed in less than 24 hours. Just
because I didn't buy these items during regular trips to the grocery store
doesn't mean I never had them. I just made special trips whenever I felt
like I wanted some. And there's a huge difference in how much you'll
consume if you have to make a special trip to the store to get it instead
of just waddling to the freezer in your pajamas, spoon in hand. It's much
easier to resist the urge to take in a bowl of ice cream before going to
bed if there's none in the house and getting some means you'll have to get
dressed and drive five miles to get some. If my craving for ice cream was
so bad that I was willing to go through all that to get some, then it's
better for me to have it instead of sitting and pouting about my own
decision not to, and end up binging on it all the next day.

IMHO,
Damaeus

The Voice of Reason wrote:
(Gloria) wrote in message
...
OKAY Here I am after a stupid binge. YIKES I thought I was no
longer
going to turn my back on this BETTER WAY OF LIVING but........ I
went
off of the track in a major way. You KNOW I could be at my VERY
IDEAL
size if I wouldn't do this! I jst kind of turned my back at MYSELF
and I
just didn't want to face this until last night. That's when I just
sat
quietly and I put MY PLAN back inside my head for the millionth
time.
I'm better tody. I got up this AM feeling strong ! I'll keep at
this BUT
I have about 5 LBS to get rid of . Oh CRAP, I'm NOT too smart. But
Jay ,
Jay really hit the 'nail on the head' when she said that I needed
to be
careful of NOT eating enough. It's TRUE! I found this out the HARD
WAY.

Now I'm READY to get back!!

Cross your fingers for me

glo

Do you actually have anything to say or are you just flooding the
newsgroup with drivel?

For being the "Voice of Reason" you certainly don't know what reason
seems to be. Also, as someone who spends more time trolling in this
group than actually contributing, you may want to watch what you say
about others around here.

Jenn

"Gloria" wrote in message
...
OKAY Here I am after a stupid binge. YIKES I thought I was no longer
going to turn my back on this BETTER WAY OF LIVING but........ I went
off of the track in a major way. You KNOW I could be at my VERY IDEAL
size if I wouldn't do this! I jst kind of turned my back at MYSELF and I
just didn't want to face this until last night. That's when I just sat
quietly and I put MY PLAN back inside my head for the millionth time.
I'm better tody. I got up this AM feeling strong ! I'll keep at this BUT
I have about 5 LBS to get rid of . Oh CRAP, I'm NOT too smart. But Jay ,
Jay really hit the 'nail on the head' when she said that I needed to be
careful of NOT eating enough. It's TRUE! I found this out the HARD WAY.

Now I'm READY to get back!!

Cross your fingers for me

Well I am right with you there, Glo. Don't know why I've been wanting to eat junk
that I *know* is detrimental to my health plan. Look at the success you've had --
what, you've kept off over 75 lbs for 25 years? (sorry if that's not right). I know
you've had a significant weight loss for a long time (which I just found out about
from a recent post from you). That is amazing and flies in the face of everyone who
says long-term success isn't possible. So you definitely have a lot going for you --
and you can build on that success to reach whatever goal you wish. Good luck to you
Gloria!

Mary

"Gloria" wrote in message
...
OKAY Here I am after a stupid binge. YIKES I thought I was no longer
going to turn my back on this BETTER WAY OF LIVING but........ I went
off of the track in a major way. You KNOW I could be at my VERY IDEAL
size if I wouldn't do this! I jst kind of turned my back at MYSELF and I
just didn't want to face this until last night. That's when I just sat
quietly and I put MY PLAN back inside my head for the millionth time.
I'm better tody. I got up this AM feeling strong ! I'll keep at this BUT
I have about 5 LBS to get rid of . Oh CRAP, I'm NOT too smart. But Jay ,
Jay really hit the 'nail on the head' when she said that I needed to be
careful of NOT eating enough. It's TRUE! I found this out the HARD WAY.

Now I'm READY to get back!!

Cross your fingers for me

Well I am right with you there, Glo. Don't know why I've been wanting to eat junk
that I *know* is detrimental to my health plan. Look at the success you've had --
what, you've kept off over 75 lbs for 25 years? (sorry if that's not right). I know
you've had a significant weight loss for a long time (which I just found out about
from a recent post from you). That is amazing and flies in the face of everyone who
says long-term success isn't possible. So you definitely have a lot going for you --
and you can build on that success to reach whatever goal you wish. Good luck to you
Gloria!

Mary

"PL" wrote in message
...
Seeing folks who have been here for a long time slip up a bit and then get
back on track gives newbies like me a lot of hope. In the past if I slipped
I would give up on myself completely. But seeing you and others make
mistakes but dust yourself off and get back to your WOL makes me think I can
do it too.

Yes! That is the key -- progress, not perfection.

Mary M
325-153-145

"The Voice of Reason" wrote in message
om...
Do you actually have anything to say or are you just flooding the
newsgroup with drivel?

You must have been looking in the mirror when you typed that.

Damaeus wrote:
snip excellent advice

Thanks for that post Damaeus. Lots of excellent tips!

--
PL
(320/291/170)
(First mini-goal: 299 Reached! 08/26/04)
(Second mini-goal: 279)


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Beverly, thanx ! You hit the nail on the head I get pretty hungry but
can't think WHY! Sometimes it IS REAL HUNGER pains! Not JUST the inner
kind !

You are knowing what I mean THANX AGAIN.

glo

Beverly, thanx ! You hit the nail on the head I get pretty hungry but
can't think WHY! Sometimes it IS REAL HUNGER pains! Not JUST the inner
kind !

You are knowing what I mean THANX AGAIN.

glo

THANX AGAIN i

glo