Still losing, and redefining my goal

"Dally" wrote in message
...

What signals are you getting from the people around you? I recall Jenn
mentioning that her husband spoke up when she got too skinny, and I know
you trust Ahmed and others. Are you hearing them say you need to stop and
eat more?

I've been getting some weird signals lately. My body is tired - I want to
sleep quite a lot and have been dependent on coffee too much. I'm a bit
worried that my metabolism is slowing down a bit. OTOH, it could be
because I've really stepped up my running. I'm training for a race that
is less than 3 weeks away and I'm nowhere near ready, so I'm pushing
myself fairly hard, i.e., I've been working out seven days a week,
including three weight-lifting, one HIIT, three 45 minute runs and one
running drill (hills). So being tired does make sense.

You need a rest day. Seriously. Now.

Also, make sure take it easy the week before the race. I never run 48 hrs
before a race and you certainly shouldn't do any serious lifting the day
before. A nice walk would be fine. It will really improve your perfomance
and you'll feel better.

But I'm starting to have people stop me and say, "wow, you've lost even
MORE weight!". It's happening several times a week - sometimes more than
once a day. It happened today when I was out running in the woods and a
neighbor passed me (at a pretty good clip!) and exclaimed over how thin
I've gotten. It happened again when I stopped at my friend's house later
and her husband exclaimed over it. It's starting to have an edge to it
like they wonder if I'm sick or anorexic or something. LOL, I'm a size 14
and 170 pounds, I'm not exactly blowing away in a breeze! I'm not sure
what this means but I'm kind of listening. I note that I'm at my SECOND
iteration of goal weight now and I have set my goals even further down. I
wonder at myself whether it's time to stop.

Remember that regardless of what the scale says and the tags inside your
jeans, you probably *appear* to be thinner than you are because of your
muscle mass. When I was 150 and a size 10, friends thought I was 130 and a
4 or a 6. I had a friend who offered me some of her size 6 pants.

You could always go back to practicing maintenance for a while and change
your mind down the road.

Jenn

"Dally" wrote in message
...

What signals are you getting from the people around you? I recall Jenn
mentioning that her husband spoke up when she got too skinny, and I know
you trust Ahmed and others. Are you hearing them say you need to stop and
eat more?

I've been getting some weird signals lately. My body is tired - I want to
sleep quite a lot and have been dependent on coffee too much. I'm a bit
worried that my metabolism is slowing down a bit. OTOH, it could be
because I've really stepped up my running. I'm training for a race that
is less than 3 weeks away and I'm nowhere near ready, so I'm pushing
myself fairly hard, i.e., I've been working out seven days a week,
including three weight-lifting, one HIIT, three 45 minute runs and one
running drill (hills). So being tired does make sense.

You need a rest day. Seriously. Now.

Also, make sure take it easy the week before the race. I never run 48 hrs
before a race and you certainly shouldn't do any serious lifting the day
before. A nice walk would be fine. It will really improve your perfomance
and you'll feel better.

But I'm starting to have people stop me and say, "wow, you've lost even
MORE weight!". It's happening several times a week - sometimes more than
once a day. It happened today when I was out running in the woods and a
neighbor passed me (at a pretty good clip!) and exclaimed over how thin
I've gotten. It happened again when I stopped at my friend's house later
and her husband exclaimed over it. It's starting to have an edge to it
like they wonder if I'm sick or anorexic or something. LOL, I'm a size 14
and 170 pounds, I'm not exactly blowing away in a breeze! I'm not sure
what this means but I'm kind of listening. I note that I'm at my SECOND
iteration of goal weight now and I have set my goals even further down. I
wonder at myself whether it's time to stop.

Remember that regardless of what the scale says and the tags inside your
jeans, you probably *appear* to be thinner than you are because of your
muscle mass. When I was 150 and a size 10, friends thought I was 130 and a
4 or a 6. I had a friend who offered me some of her size 6 pants.

You could always go back to practicing maintenance for a while and change
your mind down the road.

Jenn

"Ignoramus13229" wrote in message
...
In article , Dally wrote:
Ignoramus13229 wrote:

Has anyone complained to you that you are too irritable?

That, too, can be a sign of starvation. You appear to be irritable
lately.

Gee, how could I *possibly* take that badly?

Would it appear too "irritable" if I tell you to shove it up yours?


Hi Dally, what's happening with you?

i

Maybe she's tired of you and your stupid remarks? You've said some really
off the wall crap to her lately. I haven't found her particularly irritable
in our interactions, but since it never is *you* it must be her right?

--
Jenn
Neglecting valuable advice, an ignorant man becomes the cause of his own
misery.

"Ignoramus13229" wrote in message
...
In article , Dally wrote:
Ignoramus13229 wrote:

Has anyone complained to you that you are too irritable?

That, too, can be a sign of starvation. You appear to be irritable
lately.

Gee, how could I *possibly* take that badly?

Would it appear too "irritable" if I tell you to shove it up yours?


Hi Dally, what's happening with you?

i

Maybe she's tired of you and your stupid remarks? You've said some really
off the wall crap to her lately. I haven't found her particularly irritable
in our interactions, but since it never is *you* it must be her right?

--
Jenn
Neglecting valuable advice, an ignorant man becomes the cause of his own
misery.

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:13:43 -0400, Dally wrote:

What signals are you getting from the people around you? I recall Jenn
mentioning that her husband spoke up when she got too skinny, and I know
you trust Ahmed and others. Are you hearing them say you need to stop
and eat more?

Most people just act kind of amazed at the change. Tom and Ahmed
would both like me to stop losing and eat more, because it will
maintain my strength better. I am trying to do this :-). My DH is
pretty accepting of my appearance at any weight, though I know he'd
tell me if he thought I was really looking too thin. (Last night I
tried on a new swimsuit I got from Lands End and he was very
complimentary :-).) He fusses at me a bit if I tell him I've lost
more, but that's just because he knows that isn't what I want to do.

I do have one friend who tells me I'm looking too thin, but she is way
overweight and I don't take her opinion too seriously.

I've been getting some weird signals lately. My body is tired - I want
to sleep quite a lot and have been dependent on coffee too much. I'm a
bit worried that my metabolism is slowing down a bit. OTOH, it could be
because I've really stepped up my running. I'm training for a race that
is less than 3 weeks away and I'm nowhere near ready, so I'm pushing
myself fairly hard, i.e., I've been working out seven days a week,
including three weight-lifting, one HIIT, three 45 minute runs and one
running drill (hills). So being tired does make sense.

I think you are overtraining. You might look up the symptoms of
overtraining and see whether you think you're getting them. One of
the easiest to detect is an increase in your resting heart rate. But
I'd recommend backing off some for a week. Tom and I were talking
about overtraining the other day -- as I occasionally veer into it
myself (especially for my age). He has suggested that every 4 weeks
or so I take a bit of a break from the cardio program I'm doing --
just do 3 30-minute cardio sessions instead of the specified program
activities. So I'm going to do that next week.

But I'm starting to have people stop me and say, "wow, you've lost even
MORE weight!". It's happening several times a week - sometimes more
than once a day. It happened today when I was out running in the woods
and a neighbor passed me (at a pretty good clip!) and exclaimed over how
thin I've gotten. It happened again when I stopped at my friend's house
later and her husband exclaimed over it. It's starting to have an edge
to it like they wonder if I'm sick or anorexic or something. LOL, I'm a
size 14 and 170 pounds, I'm not exactly blowing away in a breeze! I'm
not sure what this means but I'm kind of listening. I note that I'm at
my SECOND iteration of goal weight now and I have set my goals even
further down. I wonder at myself whether it's time to stop.

Well, only you can decide this. I wouldn't worry too much about what
most people say, as long as you feel healthy. I expect your tiredness
is due to overtraining rather than weight loss. Tom's advice to me
was to just see where it took me and decide where I felt most
comfortable and healthy. I think I'm pretty close to having that
figure out now. It is lower than I'd have guessed, but I don't think
that's a bad thing. I'm sure I'm not unhealthily thin (and I'm pretty
sure you're not either :-) .)

Chris
262/137/ (135-145)

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:13:43 -0400, Dally wrote:

What signals are you getting from the people around you? I recall Jenn
mentioning that her husband spoke up when she got too skinny, and I know
you trust Ahmed and others. Are you hearing them say you need to stop
and eat more?

Most people just act kind of amazed at the change. Tom and Ahmed
would both like me to stop losing and eat more, because it will
maintain my strength better. I am trying to do this :-). My DH is
pretty accepting of my appearance at any weight, though I know he'd
tell me if he thought I was really looking too thin. (Last night I
tried on a new swimsuit I got from Lands End and he was very
complimentary :-).) He fusses at me a bit if I tell him I've lost
more, but that's just because he knows that isn't what I want to do.

I do have one friend who tells me I'm looking too thin, but she is way
overweight and I don't take her opinion too seriously.

I've been getting some weird signals lately. My body is tired - I want
to sleep quite a lot and have been dependent on coffee too much. I'm a
bit worried that my metabolism is slowing down a bit. OTOH, it could be
because I've really stepped up my running. I'm training for a race that
is less than 3 weeks away and I'm nowhere near ready, so I'm pushing
myself fairly hard, i.e., I've been working out seven days a week,
including three weight-lifting, one HIIT, three 45 minute runs and one
running drill (hills). So being tired does make sense.

I think you are overtraining. You might look up the symptoms of
overtraining and see whether you think you're getting them. One of
the easiest to detect is an increase in your resting heart rate. But
I'd recommend backing off some for a week. Tom and I were talking
about overtraining the other day -- as I occasionally veer into it
myself (especially for my age). He has suggested that every 4 weeks
or so I take a bit of a break from the cardio program I'm doing --
just do 3 30-minute cardio sessions instead of the specified program
activities. So I'm going to do that next week.

But I'm starting to have people stop me and say, "wow, you've lost even
MORE weight!". It's happening several times a week - sometimes more
than once a day. It happened today when I was out running in the woods
and a neighbor passed me (at a pretty good clip!) and exclaimed over how
thin I've gotten. It happened again when I stopped at my friend's house
later and her husband exclaimed over it. It's starting to have an edge
to it like they wonder if I'm sick or anorexic or something. LOL, I'm a
size 14 and 170 pounds, I'm not exactly blowing away in a breeze! I'm
not sure what this means but I'm kind of listening. I note that I'm at
my SECOND iteration of goal weight now and I have set my goals even
further down. I wonder at myself whether it's time to stop.

Well, only you can decide this. I wouldn't worry too much about what
most people say, as long as you feel healthy. I expect your tiredness
is due to overtraining rather than weight loss. Tom's advice to me
was to just see where it took me and decide where I felt most
comfortable and healthy. I think I'm pretty close to having that
figure out now. It is lower than I'd have guessed, but I don't think
that's a bad thing. I'm sure I'm not unhealthily thin (and I'm pretty
sure you're not either :-) .)

Chris
262/137/ (135-145)

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:37:51 GMT, "Cplus" wrote:

My mind isn't very clear so I hope I got my point across without double
talking too much.

Hope you're feeling okay!

Chris

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:37:51 GMT, "Cplus" wrote:

My mind isn't very clear so I hope I got my point across without double
talking too much.

Hope you're feeling okay!

Chris

Ignoramus13229 wrote:
In article , Dally wrote:

Ignoramus13229 wrote:


Has anyone complained to you that you are too irritable?

That, too, can be a sign of starvation. You appear to be irritable
lately.

Gee, how could I *possibly* take that badly?

Would it appear too "irritable" if I tell you to shove it up yours?



Hi Dally, what's happening with you?

i

I'm not sure anymore if you're just tactless or actually trying to be
mean. I think I'm sensing your judgment that regaining is nearly
inevitable and don't like it when you a.) remind me of what I used to be
like then b.) tell me that I'm likely to be that way again. I prefer to
be more positive than that.

I'm not starving to death, I eat about 10x my weight in calories. I'm
not irritable, either, things are going just swimmingly in my personal
life. I'm not about to have my husband "be abducted by aliens", nor did
I care to contemplate the scenario where he leaves me and I'm forced to
confront my attractiveness (or lack thereof) to other potential mates.
I just found the whole scenario distasteful. There's an element of not
wanting to talk about very disturbing things because they're disturbing.
I don't think you get that.

But maybe you do and you just enjoy tweaking me when I say "please leave
this subject alone." I'm just not sure.

Dally

Ignoramus13229 wrote:
In article , Dally wrote:

Ignoramus13229 wrote:


Has anyone complained to you that you are too irritable?

That, too, can be a sign of starvation. You appear to be irritable
lately.

Gee, how could I *possibly* take that badly?

Would it appear too "irritable" if I tell you to shove it up yours?



Hi Dally, what's happening with you?

i

I'm not sure anymore if you're just tactless or actually trying to be
mean. I think I'm sensing your judgment that regaining is nearly
inevitable and don't like it when you a.) remind me of what I used to be
like then b.) tell me that I'm likely to be that way again. I prefer to
be more positive than that.

I'm not starving to death, I eat about 10x my weight in calories. I'm
not irritable, either, things are going just swimmingly in my personal
life. I'm not about to have my husband "be abducted by aliens", nor did
I care to contemplate the scenario where he leaves me and I'm forced to
confront my attractiveness (or lack thereof) to other potential mates.
I just found the whole scenario distasteful. There's an element of not
wanting to talk about very disturbing things because they're disturbing.
I don't think you get that.

But maybe you do and you just enjoy tweaking me when I say "please leave
this subject alone." I'm just not sure.

Dally