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Down Fall of Low Carb
A long time ago I thought having low carb products in mass was a good idea.
I thought it would make low carb easier. I thought low carb on the go would be easier. I thought cooking with low carb products would be easier. What I've learned is low carb products in mass really hurts the low carb dieter because it takes away the basic principal of low carb. Yes some product development has been great for diabetics as they have much better choices in foods that won't raise BSL's, and some other products are excellent as they do not interfere with weight lose, but for the most part the snacks, legal treats, pre made shakes, breads, etc., have added to low carb being more of a fad then a life style change. The products are more for maintenance but fool the dieter into thinking it's a part of the diet phase. I've come to realize low carb is at it's best when you are eating real foods for the weight lose phase and maybe a few 'products' when your in long term maintenance and incorporating the life style with your tastes. You still have to be careful. The marketing plan is, get a diet, it become popular people are losing weight, get products, people stop losing weight and start struggling with the diet. |
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Down Fall of Low Carb
On Apr 29, 4:43 am, "2Phat" wrote:
A long time ago I thought having low carb products in mass was a good idea. I thought it would make low carb easier. I thought low carb on the go would be easier. I thought cooking with low carb products would be easier. And having many of these products available does make LC easier for people who are really serious about doing it and are going to take the time to read a book and figure out how to do it right. Products like Hood LC milk, Heinz Ketchup, Mt Olive Sweet Pickles, LC Tortillas, even LC shakes for a quick occasional meal, make it easier for me. I think it's silly to attribute the bursting of the LC bubble to LC products. It's well known that the vast majority of people can't follow any diet. A lot jumped on LC due to all the media attention it was getting in the early part of the decade. Suddenly it became the "in" thing to try as a quick and easy solution. Most figured they could do LC for a month or two, drop 20 lbs and then go back to their old ways. They would have failed with or without the products. What I've learned is low carb products in mass really hurts the low carb dieter because it takes away the basic principal of low carb. Yes some product development has been great for diabetics as they have much better choices in foods that won't raise BSL's, and some other products are excellent as they do not interfere with weight lose, but for the most part the snacks, legal treats, pre made shakes, breads, etc., have added to low carb being more of a fad then a life style change. The products are more for maintenance but fool the dieter into thinking it's a part of the diet phase. I've come to realize low carb is at it's best when you are eating real foods for the weight lose phase and maybe a few 'products' when your in long term maintenance and incorporating the life style with your tastes. You still have to be careful. The marketing plan is, get a diet, it become popular people are losing weight, get products, people stop losing weight and start struggling with the diet. |
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Down Fall of Low Carb
But low carb books do talk about abstaining from sugars and certain cards
and such. Atkins himself didn't even start discounting 'sugar alcohol's and fiber until he started making products. They do not talk about having a low carb product here and there. And I am referring to pre mass produced products low carb books as I really don't know what changes any low carb books made once the products took hold. What I'm saying is the purity of low carb is gone, and pickles and ketchup were not apart of that early purity, which is why it's harder to really do low carb. Much harder now then it was before the mass production of products. Yes, good for maintenance but not good for weight reduction. wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 29, 4:43 am, "2Phat" wrote: A long time ago I thought having low carb products in mass was a good idea. I thought it would make low carb easier. I thought low carb on the go would be easier. I thought cooking with low carb products would be easier. And having many of these products available does make LC easier for people who are really serious about doing it and are going to take the time to read a book and figure out how to do it right. Products like Hood LC milk, Heinz Ketchup, Mt Olive Sweet Pickles, LC Tortillas, even LC shakes for a quick occasional meal, make it easier for me. I think it's silly to attribute the bursting of the LC bubble to LC products. It's well known that the vast majority of people can't follow any diet. A lot jumped on LC due to all the media attention it was getting in the early part of the decade. Suddenly it became the "in" thing to try as a quick and easy solution. Most figured they could do LC for a month or two, drop 20 lbs and then go back to their old ways. They would have failed with or without the products. What I've learned is low carb products in mass really hurts the low carb dieter because it takes away the basic principal of low carb. Yes some product development has been great for diabetics as they have much better choices in foods that won't raise BSL's, and some other products are excellent as they do not interfere with weight lose, but for the most part the snacks, legal treats, pre made shakes, breads, etc., have added to low carb being more of a fad then a life style change. The products are more for maintenance but fool the dieter into thinking it's a part of the diet phase. I've come to realize low carb is at it's best when you are eating real foods for the weight lose phase and maybe a few 'products' when your in long term maintenance and incorporating the life style with your tastes. You still have to be careful. The marketing plan is, get a diet, it become popular people are losing weight, get products, people stop losing weight and start struggling with the diet. |
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I think it's silly to attribute the bursting of the LC bubble to LC products. It's well known that the vast majority of people can't follow any diet. A lot jumped on LC due to all the media attention it was getting in the early part of the decade. Suddenly it became the "in" thing to try as a quick and easy solution. Most figured they could do LC for a month or two, drop 20 lbs and then go back to their old ways. They would have failed with or without the products. True. I've also heard some version of this several times: "Oh, you're doing the low-carb/Atkins thing? My friend did that last year. She lost a lot of weight at first, but she just couldn't handle all that meat all the time." Or even worse, you get people who say they tried it and it didn't work, and then it turns out they thought rice was low-carb. Or they just ate anything from the store that had an LC sticker on it, because that's what they got used to with low-fat eating. They just went from eating a box of low-fat cookies to eating a box of low-carb ice cream. Many people who tried low-carb as a fad just skimmed through one of the books for the lists of foods, or never read a book at all and just based their diet on a description they heard at work or on Oprah. -- Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz "If you read one million lines of C you'll understand the syntax. If you read one million lines of perl, you'll conclude it has no syntax." |
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It's all about economics. You can't have it both ways by saying "We want low
carb foods but now that the manufacturers have responded, we don't like it." People aren't "fooled" by these products. They are "voting" with their pocketbooks. |
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Down Fall of Low Carb
2Phat wrote:
:: A long time ago I thought having low carb products in mass was a :: good idea. I thought it would make low carb easier. I thought low :: carb on the go would be easier. I thought cooking with low carb :: products would be easier. :: :: What I've learned is low carb products in mass really hurts the low :: carb dieter because it takes away the basic principal of low carb. That only can hurt the LC dieter who doesn't wish to lose weight. Those who think that just because eating something that is low carb will lead to weight loss are doomed from the start. It has little to do with any product. And anyone can choose to not buy any product. One can also lose weight eating these low carb products, if one knows what one is doing. :: Yes some product development has been great for diabetics as they :: have much better choices in foods that won't raise BSL's, and some :: other products are excellent as they do not interfere with weight :: lose, "weight loss" but for the most part the snacks, legal treats, pre made :: shakes, breads, etc., have added to low carb being more of a fad :: then a life style change. The products are more for maintenance but :: fool the dieter into thinking it's a part of the diet phase. :: :: I've come to realize low carb is at it's best when you are eating :: real foods for the weight lose phase "weight loss phase" and maybe a few 'products' when :: your in long term maintenance and incorporating the life style with :: your tastes. You still have to be careful. :: :: The marketing plan is, get a diet, it become popular people are :: losing weight, get products, people stop losing weight and start :: struggling with the diet. You've been posting here a while now. Why not bother to learn the difference between "lose" and "loss"? |
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On Apr 29, 9:24 am, "2Phat" wrote:
But low carb books do talk about abstaining from sugars and certain cards and such. Atkins himself didn't even start discounting 'sugar alcohol's and fiber until he started making products. They do not talk about having a low carb product here and there. And I am referring to pre mass produced products low carb books as I really don't know what changes any low carb books made once the products took hold. What I'm saying is the purity of low carb is gone, and pickles and ketchup were not apart of that early purity, which is why it's harder to really do low carb. Much harder now then it was before the mass production of products. So, it was OK and pure if I bought tomato paste, vinegar, and sucralose, and spent time making it myself, winding up with something with the same amount of carbs as Heinz, but not tasting as good? Or if I bought cucumbers and made pickles myself, instead of buying the Mt Olive ones? And somehow that was supposed to make it more likely that I would stay on LC, having to go to more trouble, instead of picking it up off the shelf? Either of those foods was perfectly fine all the way back to the Atkins books of the 70's. The only difference was back then, you had to do more yourself. BTW, how do you make the Hood LC milk? I'd really like to know, in case that goes away. Yes, good for maintenance but not good for weight reduction. wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 29, 4:43 am, "2Phat" wrote: A long time ago I thought having low carb products in mass was a good idea. I thought it would make low carb easier. I thought low carb on the go would be easier. I thought cooking with low carb products would be easier. And having many of these products available does make LC easier for people who are really serious about doing it and are going to take the time to read a book and figure out how to do it right. Products like Hood LC milk, Heinz Ketchup, Mt Olive Sweet Pickles, LC Tortillas, even LC shakes for a quick occasional meal, make it easier for me. I think it's silly to attribute the bursting of the LC bubble to LC products. It's well known that the vast majority of people can't follow any diet. A lot jumped on LC due to all the media attention it was getting in the early part of the decade. Suddenly it became the "in" thing to try as a quick and easy solution. Most figured they could do LC for a month or two, drop 20 lbs and then go back to their old ways. They would have failed with or without the products. What I've learned is low carb products in mass really hurts the low carb dieter because it takes away the basic principal of low carb. Yes some product development has been great for diabetics as they have much better choices in foods that won't raise BSL's, and some other products are excellent as they do not interfere with weight lose, but for the most part the snacks, legal treats, pre made shakes, breads, etc., have added to low carb being more of a fad then a life style change. The products are more for maintenance but fool the dieter into thinking it's a part of the diet phase. I've come to realize low carb is at it's best when you are eating real foods for the weight lose phase and maybe a few 'products' when your in long term maintenance and incorporating the life style with your tastes. You still have to be careful. The marketing plan is, get a diet, it become popular people are losing weight, get products, people stop losing weight and start struggling with the diet.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Down Fall of Low Carb
I agree with this thought.............I mean it's great to be able to keep a
packet of peanuts in one's purse for when you really just can't get home to cook something or eat something safe but for the most part, part of healthier eating means cooking at home, at least for me. I keep peanuts at work, at home, in my purse........those 1 oz packets. Carol J 2Phat wrote: A long time ago I thought having low carb products in mass was a good idea. I thought it would make low carb easier. I thought low carb on the go would be easier. I thought cooking with low carb products would be easier. What I've learned is low carb products in mass really hurts the low carb dieter because it takes away the basic principal of low carb. Yes some product development has been great for diabetics as they have much better choices in foods that won't raise BSL's, and some other products are excellent as they do not interfere with weight lose, but for the most part the snacks, legal treats, pre made shakes, breads, etc., have added to low carb being more of a fad then a life style change. The products are more for maintenance but fool the dieter into thinking it's a part of the diet phase. I've come to realize low carb is at it's best when you are eating real foods for the weight lose phase and maybe a few 'products' when your in long term maintenance and incorporating the life style with your tastes. You still have to be careful. The marketing plan is, get a diet, it become popular people are losing weight, get products, people stop losing weight and start struggling with the diet. |
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Down Fall of Low Carb
This was a really good post.
Cubit "2Phat" wrote in message ... A long time ago I thought having low carb products in mass was a good idea. I thought it would make low carb easier. I thought low carb on the go would be easier. I thought cooking with low carb products would be easier. What I've learned is low carb products in mass really hurts the low carb dieter because it takes away the basic principal of low carb. Yes some product development has been great for diabetics as they have much better choices in foods that won't raise BSL's, and some other products are excellent as they do not interfere with weight lose, but for the most part the snacks, legal treats, pre made shakes, breads, etc., have added to low carb being more of a fad then a life style change. The products are more for maintenance but fool the dieter into thinking it's a part of the diet phase. I've come to realize low carb is at it's best when you are eating real foods for the weight lose phase and maybe a few 'products' when your in long term maintenance and incorporating the life style with your tastes. You still have to be careful. The marketing plan is, get a diet, it become popular people are losing weight, get products, people stop losing weight and start struggling with the diet. |
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Down Fall of Low Carb
For something to be economically feasible it has to appeal to a fairly large
segment of the population and/or be something they buy quite a bit. I like the LC Ketchup and Hood's milk but don't use very much of either one. If every low carber followed this same pattern it would mean a pretty small market segment. I have said for a long time that I think they made a mistake in advertising it for "low carb diets" instead of at least also targetting diabetic who are a much larger market, though a lot of them don't low carb very well. Many would prefer to eat their pasta and shoot up insulin. I think this will gradually change as the medical community figures out that low carb is the best way to treat diabetes. A lot of LC product manufacturers were burned by expanding too rapidly during the boom and will be slow to come back into the market with them. Pat wrote: | It's all about economics. You can't have it both ways by saying "We | want low carb foods but now that the manufacturers have responded, we | don't like it." People aren't "fooled" by these products. They are | "voting" with their pocketbooks. |
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