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Eating less does not result in weight loss
Courageous writes:
2. They smoke. Like chimneys. Most Europeans do. However, I don't think this explains their lower prevalence of obesity. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Eating less does not result in weight loss
Michael Snyder writes:
... yet there is not a single diet or practice that works for ALL people, including eating less and exercising more. This is incorrect. Eating less and exercising more ALWAYS works, if it creates a calorie deficit. Additionally, all other diets that produce weight loss also work by creating a calorie deficit. A calorie deficit (eating fewer calories than one burns) always results in weight loss, with no exceptions. Diets that create a deficit always produce weight loss. Diets that do not create a deficit never produce weight loss. The reason why different diets may or may not work for different people is that they must persuade individuals to eat less in order to work. Some people find that they eat less on a low-carb diet; others find that they eat less on a low-fat diet. It really doesn't matter which diet they follow, as long as it "tricks" them into eating less; and a diet that does not "trick" them won't work, unless they consciously adopt a hypocaloric diet and stick to it (only a minority of fat people seem to have the sense of personal responsibility and discipline required for anything this straightforward, however). -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Michael Snyder writes:
Right. That's why the all-fat diet works so well. The all-fat diet is no better or worse than any other diet. Diets work when the people on those diets consume fewer calories than they burn. The actual content of the diet is irrelevant. Most fad diets are designed to trick people into eating less without realizing it, and this can produce weight loss. For people who are willing to acknowledge that they overeat and are prepared to discipline themselves to eat less, fad diets are not required--they can eat anything they want, as long as they consume fewer calories than they burn, and they will lose weight. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Ralph DuBose writes:
I was referring to the type of difference that is actually genetically determined to a large degree and that effects energy consumption. There is no such difference. If obesity were genetically determind, then Europeans would be just as fat as Americans, since they have the same genes. But Europeans are much thinner, so clearly the obesity of Americans is not genetic. Americans just eat too much. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Michael Snyder writes:
Absurd. There is no such thing as a BMR. Yes, there is. BMR is the minimum energy required to keep you alive. It includes the energy required to sustain vital organs (which is extremely constant), plus the energy required to maintain whatever fat and muscle tissue you have (which varies with body composition). A person in a coma burns only the number of calories in his BMR. Everyone else burns slightly more, since a conscious person always engages in some amount of extra activity that burns a few extra calories, even sitting up in bed all day. If I lie in bed all day and eat, I will consume more calories than I will if I lie in bed all day and fast. No, you will not. Haven't you ever noticed that there are no fat, comatose people? That's because doctors precisely control the nutrients that comatose patients receive, and adjust the number of calories to match the BMR plus any resting energy requirement (usually close to zero). Extra body fat is gradually lost as the body burns it to provide energy to sustain it, until body weight stabilizes at an optimal level. If the myriad myths concerning magic variations in metabolism actually had any basis in fact, there would be lots of obese, comatose patients--but in reality all comatose patients are slender. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Michael Snyder writes:
Fascinating -- no wonder you are a billionaire, since you are able to reliably help anyone lose weight. I've never tried to make money at it. It would be hard to make money at it by telling the truth, since the last thing most fat people want to hear is that they are fat because they overeat. Your advice works, where so many others does not, so you must be richer than God. See above. And it's not my advice, it's the consensus opinion in the mainstream medical community, backed up by endless mountains of data that invariably support these conclusions. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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In article ,
"Michael Snyder" wrote: SuperSpark ® wrote in message ... In article , "Michael Snyder" wrote: Mxsmanic wrote in message ... Bob Ward writes: Eating less doesn't necessarily GUARANTEE weight loss. It does if it results in consuming fewer calories than you burn. Otherwise it does not. But eating less often CAUSES you to burn less calories -- so the simple equation is obviously invalid. You don't burn less than your BMR, no matter what you eat. Absurd. There is no such thing as a BMR. No such thing as your basal metabolic rate? Well, this is news, isn't it? If I lie in bed all day and eat, I will consume more calories than I will if I lie in bed all day and fast. True. You consume more calories when you eat than when you fast. (????) |
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Eating less does not result in weight loss
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"Michael Snyder" wrote: Mxsmanic wrote in message ... Mr. F. Le Mur writes: True, but I think the idea is if you don't eat anough fat, then you still have cravings (for fat) and eat more calories-worth of stuff with less fat. It's funny how people elsewhere in the world manage to remain thin without having to worry about how much fat or carbs they are eating, isn't it? Yes it is. As it is also funny that a high-carb/low fat/low protein diet works for SOME people, while a high-protein/low carb diet works for SOME people, while eating only pineapple and tree frogs works for SOME people... yet there is not a single diet or practice that works for ALL people, including eating less and exercising more. Eating less and excercising more works 100% of the time, for all people, if applied correctly. Simple, basic human physiology. It does not matter what you eat; if you eat below your BMR, you're in a caloric deficit mode, whether you do the Atkins, the grapefruit diet or all you eat is chocolate frosting. |
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SOME people... yet there is not a single diet or practice that works for ALL people, including eating less and exercising more. Eh? This is mathematically impossible. Excercise requires calories and food provides those calories. The calories _must_ come from somewhere. C// |
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Right. That's why the all-fat diet works so well. The all-fat diet is no better or worse than any other diet. Diets work when the people on those diets consume fewer calories than they burn. The actual content of the diet is irrelevant. An "all fat" diet causes excessive ketosis -- the presence of keytones in the blood -- one side effect of ketosis is loss of appetite. Note that it is the _ketosis_ and not, strictly speaking, the diet that is important here. Some people, with a mix of fats, carbs, and proteins, get into ketosis more easily than others. Hence, on a fat-centric diet, one must use ketostix to positively id the ketosis on a regular basis. I've seen assertions that ketone-driven metabolism only burns fat at a rate of 7 colories (instead of the traditional 9) per gram. I've not actually pursued the scientific truth of this myself. C// |
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