If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises RightfulSuspicions About His "Accidental" Death
Tom wrote:
libelous statements snipped FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Tom (2) Report Tom to his ISP for violating their TOS with his libelous and defamatory statements. (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/levc (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. God's humble bond-servant, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com |
#22
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises RightfulSuspicions About His "Accidental" Death
Myway wrote:
JC Der Koenig wrote: "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message ... Largest Mu_n wrote: http://tinyurl.com/33svn "Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg. Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates. Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch of ice in front of his Manhattan office. I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin. It was just terrible." Interesting interview. A word to the wise. hissing snipped FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Myway (2) Report Myway to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/levc (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. God's humble bond-servant, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises RightfulSuspicions About His "Accidental" Death
JC Der Koenig wrote:
libelous statements snipped FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at JC da Konegg (2) Report JC da Konegg to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/levc (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. God's humble bond-servant, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:30:45 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ): Tom wrote: libelous statements snipped FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. Oh, Chung?...Chung?... when you respond to this with your macro, please trim the headers. Thanks. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Chung (2) Report Chung to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) which I developed as a replacement for Dr. Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a scale around. In 2003, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing the Bavarian Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less than 2 feet of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks. So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3 feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one month. My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6 inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements. So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day. That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates. Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your thumb to measure. I am making this diet available as a public service and without compensation. If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be simpler? Though Steve invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/hypocrite.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 foot diet approach. They have debated Steve on every perceived weakness of the 2 foot diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp ... just substitute "Foot" for "Pound" everywhere. These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and other discussion threads. However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 foot diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Steve has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2FD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2FD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/moreChungbull**** (3) Steve did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 foot diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Steve's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Dr. Chung who is jealous that Steve has improved on his diet. When the full light was cast on Dr. Chung's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity, most notably Mu, only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/sign_up_to_be_a_patient.asp Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss, most notably Mu: (1) They are anonymous and thus expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Steve by cross- posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2FD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. Unfortunately, they keep Mu_Tating so that it is impossible to killfile them. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Sincerely, God's Other Humble Servant Steve |
#25
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:36:27 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ): JC Der Koenig wrote: libelous statements snipped FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. Oh, Chung?...Chung?... when you respond to this with your macro, please trim the headers. Thanks. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Chung (2) Report Chung to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) which I developed as a replacement for Dr. Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a scale around. In 2003, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing the Bavarian Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less than 2 feet of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks. So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3 feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one month. My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6 inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements. So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day. That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates. Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your thumb to measure. I am making this diet available as a public service and without compensation. If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be simpler? Though Steve invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/hypocrite.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 foot diet approach. They have debated Steve on every perceived weakness of the 2 foot diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp ... just substitute "Foot" for "Pound" everywhere. These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and other discussion threads. However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 foot diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Steve has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2FD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2FD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/moreChungbull**** (3) Steve did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 foot diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Steve's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Dr. Chung who is jealous that Steve has improved on his diet. When the full light was cast on Dr. Chung's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity, most notably Mu, only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/sign_up_to_be_a_patient.asp Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss, most notably Mu: (1) They are anonymous and thus expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Steve by cross- posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2FD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. Unfortunately, they keep Mu_Tating so that it is impossible to killfile them. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Sincerely, God's Other Humble Servant Steve |
#26
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:34:36 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in message ): Myway wrote: JC Der Koenig wrote: "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message ... Largest Mu_n wrote: http://tinyurl.com/33svn "Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg. Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates. Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch of ice in front of his Manhattan office. I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin. It was just terrible." Interesting interview. A word to the wise. hissing snipped FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. YooHoo, Chung?...Chung?... when you respond to this with your macro, please trim the headers. Thanks. FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Chung (2) Report Chung to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) which I developed as a replacement for Dr. Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a scale around. In 2003, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing the Bavarian Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less than 2 feet of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks. So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3 feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one month. My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6 inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements. So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day. That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates. Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your thumb to measure. I am making this diet available as a public service and without compensation. If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be simpler? Though Steve invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/hypocrite.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 foot diet approach. They have debated Steve on every perceived weakness of the 2 foot diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp ... just substitute "Foot" for "Pound" everywhere. These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and other discussion threads. However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 foot diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Steve has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2FD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2FD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/moreChungbull**** (3) Steve did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 foot diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Steve's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Dr. Chung who is jealous that Steve has improved on his diet. When the full light was cast on Dr. Chung's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity, most notably Mu, only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/sign_up_to_be_a_patient.asp Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss, most notably Mu: (1) They are anonymous and thus expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Steve by cross- posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2FD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. Unfortunately, they keep Mu_Tating so that it is impossible to killfile them. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Sincerely, God's Other Humble Servant Steve |
#28
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:42:44 -0500, Linda Harms wrote
(in message ): snip LOL. Anyone have an LC recipe for FRUITCAKE??????? Steve's LC FruitCake: 8 Atkins FrankenFruit Bars 3 cups Almond Flour 1 cup heavy cream 8 Tbs Splenda Grind up FrankenFruit Bars into a paste. Blend in Almond Flour. Chill. Add Cream and Splenda. Mix well. Pour into cake pan and let sit until it hardens or turns rancid. -- Steve Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003 |
#29
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death
did Elvis tell you about this when you were on the UFO with him?
|
#30
|
|||
|
|||
Atkins Died Obese, Confirmed By Mayor Bloomberg; Raises Rightful Suspicions About His "Accidental" Death
I'd love to respond. Ms. Harms, but if you didn't take time to put
your post anywhere within one Page Down scroll, I suppose it isn't worth reading. So I didn't. ================================================== =========== On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:42:44 -0500, Linda Harms wrote: In article et, says... On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 0:02:18 -0500, Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote (in message m): JC Der Koenig wrote: "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message ... Largest Mu_n wrote: http://tinyurl.com/33svn "Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull**** that he dropped dead slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right, joked Bloomberg. Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates. Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch of ice in front of his Manhattan office. I actually went to his house out in South Hampton, said Bloomberg. It was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki fundraiser, and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy but heavy and the food was inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin. It was just terrible." Interesting interview. A word to the wise. You're an idiot and a quack. There's no way you should be giving any type of medical advice. That's why you don't have access to a hospital, and why you were fired in Florida. This is also why you troll usenet for unsuspecting "patients". You bought your credentials on the internet. Shame on you Chungspeak snipped FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Chung (2) Report Chung to his ISP (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the Two Foot Diet approach (2FD) which I developed as a replacement for Dr. Chung's Amazing Logic Defying Two Pound Diet to avoid having to carry a scale around. In 2003, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing the Bavarian Alps and learned that despite their exhausting regimen, the climbers consumed only 10 packages of wieners per week. That's less than 2 feet of wieners per day! Since none of the climbers died from starvation, I think it is safe to assume that 2 feet of food per day should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks. So I started a little experiment with the agreeable obese friends in my neighborhood. I gave them ordinary 6 inch rulers with instructions to measure the length of everything substantial that passed into their mouths. The only things exempted were water and sugar-free drinks. What I learned was that my obese friends were consuming between 8 to 12 feet of food per day! At the time, I was about 10 lbs. over my ideal body weight so I decided to find out how much I was eating per day... 3 feet. I cut back to less than 2 feet and was at my proper weight in one month. My friends have responded similarly except they have taken longer because of having to lose more weight. Admittedly, some of my obese friends were especially slow to respond. They also happen to be the ones with an unfortunate propensity for accidentally loosing their 6 inch rulers and taking weeks to buy replacements. So here's the deal: measure all the food you eat, using it's longest dimension, and keep the total length to less than two feet per day. That's all there is. No scales, no counting calories or carbohydrates. Heck, if you loose your ruler, you can even use the first joint of your thumb to measure. I am making this diet available as a public service and without compensation. If you have any questions, just see Dr. Chung's helpful FAQ and substitute "Two Feet" for "Two Pounds" everywhere... what could be simpler? Though Steve invented this approach, he did not initiate this Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/hypocrite.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 foot diet approach. They have debated Steve on every perceived weakness of the 2 foot diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp ... just substitute "Foot" for "Pound" everywhere. These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this and other discussion threads. However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 foot diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Steve has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2FD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2FD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://tinyurl.com/moreChungbull**** (3) Steve did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 foot diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Steve's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Dr. Chung who is jealous that Steve has improved on his diet. When the full light was cast on Dr. Chung's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity, most notably Mu, only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/sign_up_to_be_a_patient.asp Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss, most notably Mu: (1) They are anonymous and thus expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Steve by cross- posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2FD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. Unfortunately, they keep Mu_Tating so that it is impossible to killfile them. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to participate here on Usenet above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Sincerely, God's Other Humble Servant Steve LOL. Anyone have an LC recipe for FRUITCAKE??????? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000620.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Uncovering the Atkins diet secret | Diarmid Logan | General Discussion | 135 | February 14th, 2004 04:56 PM |