My Modified LC plan

BlueBrooke writes:

I go on "vacation" occasionally myself. It's a choice. It isn't
giving in to ancient primal desires, or the inability to interact in a
social setting without eating what everyone else is eating -- it's a
choice *I* make and *I* take responsibility for without trying to come
up with a long list of excuses.

After several years of making those excuses, I finally figured out that
it's not the end of the world to just skip the meal altogether in those
situations, and eat later when I get home.


--
Aaron -- 285/241/200 -- http://aaron.baugher.biz/blog/

On Aug 20, 11:53*am, Aaron Baugher wrote:
BlueBrooke writes:
I go on "vacation" occasionally myself. *It's a choice. *It isn't
giving in to ancient primal desires, or the inability to interact in a
social setting without eating what everyone else is eating -- it's a
choice *I* make and *I* take responsibility for without trying to come
up with a long list of excuses.

After several years of making those excuses, I finally figured out that
it's not the end of the world to just skip the meal altogether in those
situations, and eat later when I get home.

--
Aaron -- 285/241/200 --http://aaron.baugher.biz/blog/

Nor is it the end of the world to eat the meal that's been prepared at
some social event. Clearly if you're at Thanksgiving Dinner, it's
going to look a lot better to be polite and just sit down at the table
and eat some of what's there and try to avoid the worst carbs. I
would never go to someone's house where dinner is being served and
then just refuse to eat.

In message Susan
was claimed to have wrote:

wrote:

Nor is it the end of the world to eat the meal that's been prepared at
some social event. Clearly if you're at Thanksgiving Dinner, it's
going to look a lot better to be polite and just sit down at the table
and eat some of what's there and try to avoid the worst carbs. I
would never go to someone's house where dinner is being served and
then just refuse to ea

I'm diabetic and it looks just fine when I eat only the meat and veggies.

Some folks hate certain foods; should they choke them down to please
someone else? How about allergic folks, should they get hives and
anaphylaxis so it looks better?

Absolutely! What's more polite then being rushed to the hospital
mid-meal?

*mutters*

wrote:
In following this ongoing debate, I think one big issue is what is the
definition of low carb? Clearly, I think all of us wood agree that
Atkins is LC. But what about someone who realizes that excessive
carbs from flour, sugar, corn syrup, etc is bad and chooses to cut
back. They could do it in a variety of ways. They could keep a
daily carb limit of say 150grams every day, which is substantially
less than the typical American eats in a day. Or they could be
eating say 100g most days, then have a few days a month where they eat
their in-law's desserts that are full of sugar.

I probably eat less than 50 grams of carbs most days, go up to about 100 once
or twice a week and had my mother-in-law's desserts for about a week out of the
year.

The question becomes, are they doing LC or not? Without a definition, we
have many interpretations as to what is LC and no definitive answer.

What's more important to me is how my body reacts to what I eat. For a while
this summer, I was eating all manner of fruits multiple times a day, often
having date, banana and yogurt shakes for breakfast. At no point did I feel
bloated, in pain, numb or full of cravings for refined sugar and flour. Enter
the desserts and nearly all those symptoms accompanied them. So, for my body,
LC has to exclude white sugar and flour most of the time, plus white rice and
fried foods.

At the end of the day, if they are doing something to limit carb
consumption in a major way compared to the typical person's diet and
it's working for them, I don't see the problem. I would see it as a
problem if it's not working for them or they were advocating it as a
solution in an inappropriate way. An example of that would be to
advocate the 150g a day limit and occasional sugary desserts to
someone 100lbs overweight just starting out on Atkins.

That's me. I have about a hundred pounds to lose, but would rather lose them a
bit more slowly while enjoying what I eat than lose them more quickly and feel
miserably deprived.

But if they are at a reasonable weight and can average say 150g a day in carbs
with no cravings or other problems, then I see no problem with it.

I'm so glad you approve.

Orlando

Aaron Baugher wrote:
After several years of making those excuses, I finally figured out that
it's not the end of the world to just skip the meal altogether in those
situations, and eat later when I get home.

I sometimes do that, but if I'm really hungry and know I'll be out for too
long, skipping the meal will harm more than it helps. In general, one meal of
any kind will not derail whatever I've been doing for months or years. The
trick is keeping it to one meal, though. I find that some foods can safely
enter my habitual rotation, while others really have to be for special occasion
treats or survival.

Orlando

wrote:
Nor is it the end of the world to eat the meal that's been prepared at
some social event. Clearly if you're at Thanksgiving Dinner, it's
going to look a lot better to be polite and just sit down at the table
and eat some of what's there and try to avoid the worst carbs. I
would never go to someone's house where dinner is being served and
then just refuse to eat.

That's a really important point for people who consider eating to be a highly
social activity. I would rather eat a few carbs on a given occasion than feel
self righteous and excluded. As I've said before, the trick is keeping those
occasions to a reasonable limit. One limit I have, for instance, is that I will
only indulge once a day. So, if I've already eaten some carbs by the time I'm
offered more, I decline. I've also been known to consider the source and
preparation of various carbs in choosing the lesser of many evils. I will
usually choose fruit over baked goods whenever and wherever it's available. I
will usually choose rice over bread because I'm Hispanic and loves me my rice.
I will usually drink water rather than sugary soda or even fruit juice, except
for cases when no water is available.

Orlando

Susan wrote:
I'm diabetic and it looks just fine when I eat only the meat and veggies.

I agree with this. No matter how much I slave away making a dish, I won't
expect a vegetarian to eat meat for my sake, or a kosher Jew to eat pork and
shrimp.

Some folks hate certain foods; should they choke them down to please
someone else? How about allergic folks, should they get hives and
anaphylaxis so it looks better?

Not at all. This question cuts to the heart of how certain diets are culturally
perceived. For instance, when I was in Cuba and India, I could only justify LC
eating by saying it was medically prescribed and that I was borderline
diabetic. In this country, I think people get more used to me not eating
certain foods if they've seen me do it for a long time. If I just show up one
day refusing to eat things they saw me eat a week ago, I will likely have my
new choices ridiculed or dismissed. Of course, I'll eat whatever I want
regardless of people's assessments; I'm just trying to shed some light on how
different regimens are perceived differently in different communities and
cultures. To my Indian and Cuban friends, I had to have a medically sound
directive not to eat the starch and sugar staples of their average diet. In
America, vegetarianism, gluten intolerance, kashrut and halal preferences are
all assumed to be tied to deeply held moral beliefs, whereas the mere choice to
go LC for a while smacks of impermanence.

Orlando

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" wrote in message
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Susan wrote:
I'm diabetic and it looks just fine when I eat only the meat and veggies.

I agree with this. No matter how much I slave away making a dish, I won't
expect a vegetarian to eat meat for my sake, or a kosher Jew to eat pork
and
shrimp.

Or a type 2 diabetic to eat a bunch of carbs, or a type 1 diabetic to skip
meals for the day.

Cheri

On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:24:18 -0700, Billy
wrote:


Bad idea, most processed foods lack the phytonutrients (mainly
anti-oxidants) of real food. Processed foods are primarily made with GMO
plants (corn fractions, and soy oil or cotton oil). You can avoid GMO
products by buying "organic". GMO plants contain antibiotic markers that
can lead to bacterial resistance to them, and they contain Cabbage
Mosaic Virus which can, at least theoretically, turn on part of the 98%
of your DNA which is dormant. This could be genes for web feet or a long
dormant viruse. They certainly create exotic proteins, that can lead to
allergies.

It turns out that this is fiction. The world's largest study just
completed last month has proven that "organic" foods are no more
nutritious or healthy than conventionally grown foods. Those pushing
organic foods have apparently merely helped health-consious people
part with their $$$.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32205139...and_nutrition/

http://tinyurl.com/mdph26

http://tinyurl.com/nt7hjm

http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/20/org...-products.html
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Peter

Cheri wrote:
Or a type 2 diabetic to eat a bunch of carbs, or a type 1 diabetic to skip
meals for the day.

Agreed. Every body and health type is different and the same diet won't work
for everyone.

Orlando