Low Carb Beer and Atkins

"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in message ws.com...
So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers every night.
I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only has a few grams of
carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which keeps me in the induction stage
of Atkins. I've been eating lots of eggs, cheese, meat with my beer, but I
have gained 9 lbs over the past week. I don't understand what is the matter.
I've limited my carbs to 24 grams per day. Has anyone experienced similar
problems? I am thinking of switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that
would let me drink more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.

HOW can you do 8 beers a night, and be under the Atkins limit? I
don't think you can. Check the carb level of the beer. You are over
the limit alone on that.

If you are going to drink beer (NO diet really says to do), then have
ZERO fats and you better work out a LOT. Even then, your progress
will likely be nil. Sorry to say, NO diet is going to let you have 8
beers a night.

By the way, the point of Atkins or any low carb diet isn't to get more
fats, it is to cut carbs.

- Richard Hutnik

Here are a few rules I used (my own creation), to low carb dieting
that worked (I dropped about 4 lbs a week):
- If it is white, it is not right (don't eat any foods that are white.
This rules out processed sugars, white flour, and milk which contains
sugars). Egg whites are an exception, as is califlower.
- If it is sweet, don't eat. This means no fruits (except tomatoes),
and no sugars. This also means no fruit juices.
- Don't eat anything you can put in a cake (eggs are an exception).
This ends up eliminating things such as carrots.
- Get a minimum of a 45 minute a day walk (1 hour preferred). Do this
every day.
- Drink plenty of water.
- Don't make your last meal of the day the largest.
- Don't eat a few hours before bed. You want to sleep on an empty
stomach if you can.

- Richard Hutnik

On 12/9/2003 10:23 AM, Richard Hutnik wrote:
"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in message ws.com...

So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers every night.
I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only has a few grams of
carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which keeps me in the induction stage
of Atkins. I've been eating lots of eggs, cheese, meat with my beer, but I
have gained 9 lbs over the past week. I don't understand what is the matter.
I've limited my carbs to 24 grams per day. Has anyone experienced similar
problems? I am thinking of switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that
would let me drink more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.


HOW can you do 8 beers a night, and be under the Atkins limit? I
don't think you can. Check the carb level of the beer. You are over
the limit alone on that.

He can't. He's trolling. Amstel Light has 5 carbs. 8*5 20 last time
I checked ;-)

--
jmk in NC

"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in
s.com:

So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers every
night. I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only has a few
grams of carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which keeps me in the
induction stage of Atkins. I've been eating lots of eggs, cheese, meat
with my beer, but I have gained 9 lbs over the past week. I don't
understand what is the matter. I've limited my carbs to 24 grams per
day. Has anyone experienced similar problems? I am thinking of
switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that would let me drink
more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.


I lost 20 pounds in 6 weeks on Atkins. I am in "lifetime maintainance"
now and I figure I eat about 200 grams of carbs a day. I eat cereal,
rice, drink scotch and have ice cream. I've been at about 200 grams for
about 8 weeks and I haven't gained anything back. I went hog-wild over
thanksgiving and ate half a box of godiva chocolates. I gained all of 3
pounds which I lost 3 days later.

Maybe you should get off your fat ass a little and work out. Instead of
sitting on your ass drinking a sixer-plus every day you could try running
or lifting. Myself, I swim a mile to a mile-and-a-half at least twice a
week. I also run on the elliptical and hit the machines every few days.
Don't they have gyms down there in Bermuda?

BTW, my LDL's went down 20 points and my HDL's stayed the same since I've
been on atkins. You might want to cut down on the eggs and cheese - fat
is "ok" on Atkins but that doesn't mean you should pork out.
--
We've been together
Ohh, we've been together
But seperate's always better
when there's feelings involved

- A3K

Say 'I do' and kiss me quick
'Cause baby's on its way

- Dixie Chicks ("White Trash Wedding")

"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in message
s.com...
So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers every night.
I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only has a few grams of
carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which keeps me in the induction stage
of Atkins. I've been eating lots of eggs, cheese, meat with my beer, but I
have gained 9 lbs over the past week. I don't understand what is the matter.
I've limited my carbs to 24 grams per day. Has anyone experienced similar
problems? I am thinking of switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that
would let me drink more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.

try taking a **** sometimes...
apparently from reading your posts ive diagnosed massive
**** build up...

no charge...

dr. bozak

Branden Wolner wrote in message
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"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in
s.com:

So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers every
night. I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only has a few
grams of carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which keeps me in the
induction stage of Atkins. I've been eating lots of eggs, cheese, meat
with my beer, but I have gained 9 lbs over the past week. I don't
understand what is the matter. I've limited my carbs to 24 grams per
day. Has anyone experienced similar problems? I am thinking of
switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that would let me drink
more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.


I lost 20 pounds in 6 weeks on Atkins. I am in "lifetime maintainance"
now and I figure I eat about 200 grams of carbs a day. I eat cereal,
rice, drink scotch and have ice cream. I've been at about 200 grams for
about 8 weeks and I haven't gained anything back. I went hog-wild over
thanksgiving and ate half a box of godiva chocolates. I gained all of 3
pounds which I lost 3 days later.

Maybe you should get off your fat ass a little and work out.

Donut be disparaging my friend... it is a known fact that Jefferson is HAWT.

Instead of sitting on your ass drinking a sixer-plus every day you could
try running
or lifting.

Ever tried those watered down Michelob Ultra beers? You need 7 or 8 just to
get a buzz.

Myself, I swim a mile to a mile-and-a-half at least twice a
week. I also run on the elliptical and hit the machines every few days.
Don't they have gyms down there in Bermuda?

Of course they have gyms in Bermuda, dumnass, but Jefferson has already
dated all of them.

HTH.

Terri
RSFC's Official GIF Getter
1-800-KICKUGA

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Branden Wolner wrote in message
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"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in
s.com:

So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers
every night. I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only
has a few grams of carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which
keeps me in the induction stage of Atkins. I've been eating lots of
eggs, cheese, meat with my beer, but I have gained 9 lbs over the
past week. I don't understand what is the matter. I've limited my
carbs to 24 grams per day. Has anyone experienced similar problems?
I am thinking of switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that
would let me drink more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.


I lost 20 pounds in 6 weeks on Atkins. I am in "lifetime
maintainance" now and I figure I eat about 200 grams of carbs a day.
I eat cereal, rice, drink scotch and have ice cream. I've been at
about 200 grams for about 8 weeks and I haven't gained anything back.
I went hog-wild over thanksgiving and ate half a box of godiva
chocolates. I gained all of 3 pounds which I lost 3 days later.

Maybe you should get off your fat ass a little and work out.

Donut be disparaging my friend... it is a known fact that Jefferson is
HAWT.

Please. I've seen his picture on his website. You are either blind, sick
or demented.


--
We've been together
Ohh, we've been together
But seperate's always better
when there's feelings involved

- A3K

Say 'I do' and kiss me quick
'Cause baby's on its way

- Dixie Chicks ("White Trash Wedding")

Branden Wolner wrote in message
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"Terri Hayes" wrote in
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Branden Wolner wrote in message
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"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in
s.com:

So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers
every night. I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only
has a few grams of carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which
keeps me in the induction stage of Atkins. I've been eating lots of
eggs, cheese, meat with my beer, but I have gained 9 lbs over the
past week. I don't understand what is the matter. I've limited my
carbs to 24 grams per day. Has anyone experienced similar problems?
I am thinking of switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that
would let me drink more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.


I lost 20 pounds in 6 weeks on Atkins. I am in "lifetime
maintainance" now and I figure I eat about 200 grams of carbs a day.
I eat cereal, rice, drink scotch and have ice cream. I've been at
about 200 grams for about 8 weeks and I haven't gained anything back.
I went hog-wild over thanksgiving and ate half a box of godiva
chocolates. I gained all of 3 pounds which I lost 3 days later.

Maybe you should get off your fat ass a little and work out.

Donut be disparaging my friend... it is a known fact that Jefferson is
HAWT.

Please. I've seen his picture on his website. You are either blind, sick
or demented.

Well, not blind, but I'll give ya the other two... but you listen to the
Dixie Chicks, so you must be demented.
Prevent inbreeding.... ban *certain* country musicians.

Uhhhh... where's your GIFS, Mr.Critic?

Terri
RSFC's Official GIF Getter
1-800-KICKUGA

"Terri Hayes" wrote in
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Branden Wolner wrote in message
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"Terri Hayes" wrote in
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Branden Wolner wrote in message
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"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote
in s.com:

So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers
every night. I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which
only has a few grams of carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night,
which keeps me in the induction stage of Atkins. I've been
eating lots of eggs, cheese, meat with my beer, but I have
gained 9 lbs over the past week. I don't understand what is the
matter. I've limited my carbs to 24 grams per day. Has anyone
experienced similar problems? I am thinking of switching to the
Zone or maybe another diet that would let me drink more beer
because Atkins doesn't seem to work.


I lost 20 pounds in 6 weeks on Atkins. I am in "lifetime
maintainance" now and I figure I eat about 200 grams of carbs a
day. I eat cereal, rice, drink scotch and have ice cream. I've
been at about 200 grams for about 8 weeks and I haven't gained
anything back. I went hog-wild over thanksgiving and ate half a
box of godiva chocolates. I gained all of 3 pounds which I lost 3
days later.

Maybe you should get off your fat ass a little and work out.

Donut be disparaging my friend... it is a known fact that Jefferson
is HAWT.

Please. I've seen his picture on his website. You are either blind,
sick or demented.

Well, not blind, but I'll give ya the other two... but you listen to
the Dixie Chicks, so you must be demented.
Prevent inbreeding.... ban *certain* country musicians.

While I agree 100% with the very last sentiment, I suspect our lists
would differ. Did you read the lyrics? The title of the song?

Uhhhh... where's your GIFS, Mr.Critic?

Send me yours and I'll send you mine.

--
We've been together
Ohh, we've been together
But seperate's always better
when there's feelings involved

- A3K

Say 'I do' and kiss me quick
'Cause baby's on its way

- Dixie Chicks ("White Trash Wedding")

"Jefferson N. Glapski" wrote in
message s.com...
(snip)

Since many others have pointed out what you have
been doing wrong, I'll take the opportunity to share
a diet that has worked wonders for me and others.
First off, there is nothing terribly wrong with Atkins
or the South Beach etc--they work. But are they
the most healthy? A diet should not only help one
reach optimal weight, but also enhance and
strengthen the immune system and help one sleep
better, have more energy etc.

I've been on the paleolithic (or hunter-gatherer diet)
for almost six months. The key insight into this diet
is that for the vast majority of our evolutionary history
as proto-humans and homo sapiens we ate a diet
rich in animal protein, vegetables, fruits, nuts and
seeds. Eating grains began approximately 10,000
years ago. There is much evidence that many health
problems can be traced to this momentus change.
As hunter-gatherers we didn't eat dairy, salt (or certainly
not in the quantities humans eat now), refined sugar,
fried foods and so forth. We got all our carbs from
fruits and veggies. Tons of protein from meat, fish,
seeds and nuts.

If one eats as our ancestors did, the benefits will
be seen very quickly. I lost 12 pounds in a month
and gained muscle mass. I sleep better and I haven't
been sick since last year. I gave up beer, but hey,
I'm much more of a wine drinker anyway. Dinners
have become easier as we grill a lot more and eat
lots of salad and other veggies. If you can afford it,
buy clean sources of meat (organic, free-range, hormone
free etc.). Eat sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, brazil
nuts, walnuts. Eating nuts and seeds can significantly
lower your risk for certain cancers such as prostate.

The problem with Atkins as I see it, is that not enough
attention is paid to eating lots of fruits and vegetables.
This is the stuff that keeps one cancer free and one's
plumbing working properly. How healthy can a diet
be if you need to buy fiber products? (As many Atkins
people do.).

Check out these links:

www.paleolithicdiet.com

www.beyondveg.com

Damned fine advice.. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.


"newbie_to_lowcarb" wrote in message
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Jefferson N. Glapski wrote:

So I started this low carb diet, and I like to have a few beers every
night. I started drinking low-carb Amstel Light, which only has a few
grams
of carbs. I drink about 8 beers a night, which keeps me in the induction
stage of Atkins.

8 beers a night??? That is a lot of alcohol. That sounds a little like you
are on your way to a drinking problem if you can't live without beer or
less
than 8. I mean, one or two...ok but 8 every night?? Do you really need
that
many? Just curious. Well, if you read the book, it clearly states two
things: one, alcohol is *not* allowed on induction. Two, the liver and
body
stop fat burning when there is a presence of alcohol in the system because
it has to clear off all that alcohol.
I've been eating lots of eggs, cheese, meat with my beer, but I have
gained 9 lbs over the past week. I don't understand what is the matter.

Because alcohol dehydrates you but your water weight is being retained
because you are being dehydrated by the beer. It is using the water weight
as a way to stay hydrated. While you are drinking that beer, have you
drank
any water? You need to drink at least 100oz. of water to get rid of the
toxins in your system.

I've limited my carbs to 24 grams per day.

On 2 week indcution, it is 20 grams, not 24. Which means you are eating a
surpluss of 4 extra grams a day, which means 28 extra grams a week. That
is
why you are gaining.
Has anyone experienced similar problems?

Yeah, if you aren't careful about counting carbs, won't give up addictions
or old vices and don't follow the program correctly. It happens to
everyone
who lives for addictions instead of giving them up.

I am thinking of switching to the Zone or maybe another diet that would
let me drink more beer because Atkins doesn't seem to work.

You haven't even given this one a chance. If you haven't even finished
induction, how can you say that you've given it a chance?? Please keep
trying. You just have to let your addictions go. cut out the beer for 2
weeks, and when you can drink them again, don't drink 8 of them. One or
two
is enough, dude. It is hard in the beginning but you will be amazed at how
much better you'd feel.

lowcarb_newbie