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Eating less does not result in weight loss
"Mxsmanic" : RLW writes: If you discount any research you don't agree with because it may be 'unreliable', how can you possibly come to any logical conclusion about anything related to diet? If you discount the laws of thermodynamics because they require you to eat less, how do you expect to ever lose weight? I was responding to the contention that all calories are the same (ie. have the same ability to make us fat). I did not make any statement about the laws of thermodynamics as they apply to the human body. And what's the point of debating the subject? Some people are interested in unbiased information. What was biased about the journal article I quoted? Rowena. |
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Eating less does not result in weight loss
RLW writes:
I was responding to the contention that all calories are the same (ie. have the same ability to make us fat). They are. I did not make any statement about the laws of thermodynamics as they apply to the human body. That is implicit in your statement above. What was biased about the journal article I quoted? I don't know that it was biased, but neither do I have any reason to believe that it was useful or meaningful. Just because a study is published in a journal doesn't mean that it is accurate or that it's conclusions or implications are correct. There are so many studies with so many conflicting conclusions and implications that only a general survey of results from all studies over long periods is really worth considering, and even that can be subject to fad and fashion to a certain extent. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Eating less does not result in weight loss
jmk writes:
On what is this assertation based? The fact that Europeans are generally thinner than Americans, despite the fact that they have the same genes. This would rule out a genetic excuse for obesity. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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jmk writes:
I thought that BMR was defined as the number of calories burned to fuel essential bodily processes and keep organs and tissues in working order. Yes, that's what it is. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Eating less does not result in weight loss
On 10/8/2003 8:32 AM, Mxsmanic wrote: jmk writes: On what is this assertation based? The fact that Europeans are generally thinner than Americans, despite the fact that they have the same genes. This would rule out a genetic excuse for obesity. But they aren't generally thinner. |
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Eating less does not result in weight loss
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 03:01:26 GMT, "Michael Snyder"
, wrote: SuperSpark ® wrote in message ... In article , "Michael Snyder" wrote: Mxsmanic wrote in message ... Bob Ward writes: Eating less doesn't necessarily GUARANTEE weight loss. It does if it results in consuming fewer calories than you burn. Otherwise it does not. But eating less often CAUSES you to burn less calories -- so the simple equation is obviously invalid. You don't burn less than your BMR, no matter what you eat. Absurd. There is no such thing as a BMR. You seem to have some trouble with basic science Mikey. I'd love to hear your theories on how gravity is a hoax. If I lie in bed all day and eat, I will consume more calories than I will if I lie in bed all day and fast. You could have saved us all a lot of time by simply writing "duhhh" and hitting send. Jade |
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jmk writes:
But they aren't generally thinner. They are considerably thinner. I see Americans and Europeans all the time, and one easy way to recognize Americans is by their obesity. It is very unusual for young Europeans (under 40) to be fat. Even the Germans and English, who seem to be by far the fattest of the Europeans, are still thinner than Americans. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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On 10/8/2003 10:14 AM, Mxsmanic wrote: jmk writes: But they aren't generally thinner. They are considerably thinner. I see Americans and Europeans all the time, and one easy way to recognize Americans is by their obesity. It is very unusual for young Europeans (under 40) to be fat. Even the Germans and English, who seem to be by far the fattest of the Europeans, are still thinner than Americans. Perhaps I missunderstood you, do you have any citations to support this or just your personal observation to base that one. I think that you may have missed my previous post. If you want the attributions, please see my earlier post, here's a summary: Obese Americans - 33% Overweight/Obese Australians - 56% Obese British Men - 20% Overweight British Men - 50% |
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Eating less does not result in weight loss
Mxsmanic wrote:
jmk writes: But they aren't generally thinner. They are considerably thinner. I see Americans and Europeans all the time, and one easy way to recognize Americans is by their obesity. It is very unusual for young Europeans (under 40) to be fat. Even the Germans and English, who seem to be by far the fattest of the Europeans, are still thinner than Americans. One thing I noticed about many people who have grown up European (the ones I know, anyhow), they weren't given such lame mixed signals about food as they grew up. Rich food is rampant in France. It is so rich that a tiny serving on a plate is enough. Look at all the olive oil in the Mediterranean countries. The low-fat culture in North America would go into convulsions at all the fat and rich food other cultures eat. My European friends grew up eating sensibly and food wasn't such an "issue". We live in a culture in which food is such an issue, and people freak out when a normal 12 year old girl starts to fill out a bit in order for menarche to start, (and even earlier), people are taught to be so freaked out about food and their bodies at such a young age. |
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