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"Cynthia P" wrote in message
. .. I agree with the survival part, but there's nothing wrong with healthy high cal foods if used in moderation. The trick is to learn to be happy with the more moderate amounts. I think this is the part that the current population of Earth has forgotten. I'm not doing low carb or low fat, I'm more of a moderate person, but if one was doing low carb, the egg yolk would not be a problem. And if one is scared of too many saturated fats, omega3 eggs do cut back on that, while supplying the good fats. A few years ago when I started to lose weight I did stick with very low fat eating, and I did lose weight. I still watch my fat intake but I don't automatically pass up food just because it has some fat. My reason for trying to decrease my fat intake is because I can eat a larger volume of food if I cut down on fat calories. But, I also don't just want to eat buckets of green beans and broccoli either so I do have fat but I watch the amounts. I've never bought the omega 3 eggs but next time I get a craving for hard boiled eggs I'll look for them. -- Liz |
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"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote in message . .. wrote: Troll or voice of reason? You are not the voice of reason. Most of your posts are junk. I think dkw represents a legitimate point of view, I just disagree with almost all of it. |
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Willow wrote:
They aren't that great unless you remove the yolk. Sure you can eat them, but they are loaded with cholesterol. No nutritionists or doctor I know says to eat a lot of egg yolk, although if you limit yourself to a few a week and don't have a history of heart disease it may not kill you. That is hardly an endorsement for eggs though. dkw Mary responds: Except that...genetics are the predominant factor in serum cholesteral levels. Most of the rest comes from crappy diet and lifestyle, not eating eggs - i.e. your basic North American thing - the high calorie, high fat diets, without enough fruit/veg/fibre, no exercise etc. Most epidemiological studies have shown little or no association between egg intake and risk of coronary heart disease. |
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"Cubit" wrote:
"The Queen of Cans and Jars" wrote: wrote: Troll or voice of reason? Let's see. Someone who thinks the fat in a single egg yolk is toxic yet who eats dozens or hundreds of packets of artificial sweetener each day. Definitely closer to troll than reason, but the choice is not so binary. There's plenty of middle ground between the two extremes. You are not the voice of reason. *Most of your posts are junk. I think dkw represents a legitimate point of view, I just disagree with almost all of it. Low carb groups get folks who think that if low is good lower must be better so they do crazy stuff like all meat or zero carbs. Most eventually stop posting because they won't sustain it. DKW is no more extreme than any of those folks. He's the hardest of hard core low fatters and he's consistant about it. His main problem is the same as the cause of the current epidemic of obesity - He writes like his way is the only correct way. Both low fat and low carb work for certain people, neither is bad. |
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Doug Freyburger wrote:
DKW is no more extreme than any of those folks. He's the hardest of hard core low fatters and he's consistant about it. His main problem is the same as the cause of the current epidemic of obesity - He writes like his way is the only correct way. Both low fat and low carb work for certain people, neither is bad. Actually low-carb is the ONLY way long-term to keep the weight off and everyone with any intelligence greater then a chimp KNOWS this. |
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Manco wrote:
Actually low-carb is the ONLY way long-term to keep the weight off and everyone with any intelligence greater then a chimp KNOWS this. Mary responds: I think the results from the National Weight Control Registry say different (average weight loss 66 lb, kept off for 5.5 years). People on the Registry (myself included) have these things in common: They eat breakfast. They exercise. They weigh themselves regularly. They eat a low calorie, low fat diet, which is actually relatively high in carbs. M. |
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Manco wrote: Actually low-carb is the ONLY way long-term to keep the weight off and everyone with any intelligence greater then a chimp KNOWS this. I laughed like a lunatic at the joke. Thanks. I think the results from the National Weight Control Registry say different (average weight loss 66 lb, kept off for 5.5 years). People on the Registry (myself included) have these things in common: They eat breakfast. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure - Keep hunger from gradually eroding motivation. They exercise. Only the rare person has any down side to this major contributor to health. They weigh themselves regularly. These data points should apply across the board. And also since they are about maintenance whether they apply during the loss phases is questionable: Weighing regularly tends to be a point of obession among newbies but a point of matter of fact among oldbies for example. Time on plan matters. They eat a low calorie, low fat diet, which is actually relatively high in carbs. This was caused by a bias in their questionaire. I don't know if it is still the case but for years there was literally no way to inform them that you used low carb. I knew some low carbers who registered and did their best but ended up being falsely listed as low fatters, and I knew some (including myself) who read their questionaire and declined because we couldn't say we were low carbers. Even if they now can get low carb answers, their prior bias filtered out a lot of potential registrants. They dropped all data from low carbers therefore their conclusions about low fat are not of value. Sure, some folks use low fat to lose and maintain; it's as crazy to say low fat works for no one as to say it works for everyone. But dropping all data from low carbers and then concluding that successfull maintenance requires low fat is a nonsense conclusion. |
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"Manco" wrote in message news:gTVij.4963$ib7.2625@trndny04... Doug Freyburger wrote: DKW is no more extreme than any of those folks. He's the hardest of hard core low fatters and he's consistant about it. His main problem is the same as the cause of the current epidemic of obesity - He writes like his way is the only correct way. Both low fat and low carb work for certain people, neither is bad. Actually low-carb is the ONLY way long-term to keep the weight off and everyone with any intelligence greater then a chimp KNOWS this. Must be a chimp then. Lost 76lb and have kept it off for 3 years come February and would never dream of cutting out food groups to the extent you or DKW do. Rachael |
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"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message ... wrote: Manco wrote: Actually low-carb is the ONLY way long-term to keep the weight off and everyone with any intelligence greater then a chimp KNOWS this. I laughed like a lunatic at the joke. Thanks. I think the results from the National Weight Control Registry say different (average weight loss 66 lb, kept off for 5.5 years). People on the Registry (myself included) have these things in common: They eat breakfast. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure - Keep hunger from gradually eroding motivation. They exercise. Only the rare person has any down side to this major contributor to health. They weigh themselves regularly. These data points should apply across the board. And also since they are about maintenance whether they apply during the loss phases is questionable: Weighing regularly tends to be a point of obession among newbies but a point of matter of fact among oldbies for example. Time on plan matters. They eat a low calorie, low fat diet, which is actually relatively high in carbs. This was caused by a bias in their questionaire. I don't know if it is still the case but for years there was literally no way to inform them that you used low carb. I knew some low carbers who registered and did their best but ended up being falsely listed as low fatters, and I knew some (including myself) who read their questionaire and declined because we couldn't say we were low carbers. Even if they now can get low carb answers, their prior bias filtered out a lot of potential registrants. They dropped all data from low carbers therefore their conclusions about low fat are not of value. Sure, some folks use low fat to lose and maintain; it's as crazy to say low fat works for no one as to say it works for everyone. But dropping all data from low carbers and then concluding that successfull maintenance requires low fat is a nonsense conclusion. I filled in the forms and can't remember if it was biased or not but the main problem is it is a self selecting sample. They themselves don't claim it to be otherwise but the results when used out of context can imply it is a scientific study. Rachael |
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