How to acquire a "rugged look"?

"MH" wrote:

I'm not sure if being pro-religion is being pro-individuality, though. They
seem to cross each other out. I remember being raised as a Lutheran and the
pastor telling us sheep were good and goats were bad. Being raised in a
farming family, I knew that was bull****. I probably became a headbanger way
back then. Everyone knows being like a sheep is being stupid, smelly and
sharing a herd mentality so prized by religion.

That's why us metalheads give the sign of the goat, it's anti-religion.

Uh-huh. That's really unique and individualistic.

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haha! I don't like his music, but I love his attitude! It's very
metal.
He
don't take no ****. \m/

Martha

that's country music's attitude in GENERAL imo -

think Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Martina McBride, etc.

Johnny Cash wore black, I like that, even if I don't like the music.

frankly, i frigging love country music. i like old skool hardcore
punk,
heavy metal, etc. too. but country rools.

i also like its politics - politically incorrect, not afraid to be
pro-religion and pro-God, pro-individuality, pro-family, and no
nonsense.

whit

Well, I'm certainly not pro-religion, can't stand any religion, but I
like
the politically incorrect part of it all.

I'm not sure if being pro-religion is being pro-individuality, though

i'm not saying it is.

i am saying country music, on the whole is pro-both of those things

. They
seem to cross each other out.

that, imo, is rubbish

I remember being raised as a Lutheran and the
pastor telling us sheep were good and goats were bad. Being raised in a
farming family, I knew that was bull****. I probably became a headbanger
way
back then. Everyone knows being like a sheep is being stupid, smelly and
sharing a herd mentality so prized by religion.


your pastor was/is not the sine qua non of religious philosophy.

That's why us metalheads give the sign of the goat, it's anti-religion.

Martha


wow, that's like so revolutionary and counter-culture! :l

whit

Well, the Hell's Angels and then the metalheads did it. just because some
pop star bimbo sluts do it now doesn't take away what the symbol was and
does stand for. We will do it forever.....

I am conservative, in the truest sense of the word. Not the the new
right-wing sense, but in the Goldwater, real sense of being a Conversative.
Perhaps, in these days, I'm more a Liberatrian, but I know that the US is
not designed for the 3-party system. It's stupid to think it is.

My mantra is: I don't care what you do, just don't ask me to pay for it.

Unfortunately, the holy rollers ask for money like the dirty hippies do. I
find each digusting. Leave me alone, and leave my money alone.

Black Metal Martha
www.bastmagazine.com

"marbury" wrote:

"elzinator" wrote:
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:21:09 GMT, mapp wrote:

elzinator wrote in message
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On 22 Apr 2004 01:22:01 GMT, Watson Davis wrote:
elzinator wrote in
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Whitney probably has the Foxfire books next to his juicer.

And those are damn cool books, btw.

Proton Soup

lol...I actually had a couple of those books back in the '70s.

Who didn't that grew up in that generation?

Uh... apparently Whit and me. And I don't consider us particularly
illiterate.

I'm talking '60s moreso than the '70's.

Demographics factor into that, too.

I spent many years sequestered in the Northeast woods. Those books
were handy at one time.


i'm not Old as F*ck (tm) like JW.

So you're okay then.



well, yeah.

he's HELLA old

Older than some, younger than others.

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haha! I don't like his music, but I love his attitude! It's very
metal.
He
don't take no ****. \m/

Martha

that's country music's attitude in GENERAL imo -

think Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Martina McBride, etc.

Johnny Cash wore black, I like that, even if I don't like the music.

frankly, i frigging love country music. i like old skool hardcore
punk,
heavy metal, etc. too. but country rools.

i also like its politics - politically incorrect, not afraid to be
pro-religion and pro-God, pro-individuality, pro-family, and no
nonsense.

whit

Well, I'm certainly not pro-religion, can't stand any religion, but I
like
the politically incorrect part of it all.

I'm not sure if being pro-religion is being pro-individuality, though

i'm not saying it is.

i am saying country music, on the whole is pro-both of those things

. They
seem to cross each other out.

that, imo, is rubbish

I remember being raised as a Lutheran and the
pastor telling us sheep were good and goats were bad. Being raised in
a
farming family, I knew that was bull****. I probably became a
headbanger
way
back then. Everyone knows being like a sheep is being stupid, smelly
and
sharing a herd mentality so prized by religion.


your pastor was/is not the sine qua non of religious philosophy.

That's why us metalheads give the sign of the goat, it's
anti-religion.

Martha


wow, that's like so revolutionary and counter-culture! :l

whit

Well, the Hell's Angels and then the metalheads did it. just because some
pop star bimbo sluts do it now doesn't take away what the symbol was and
does stand for. We will do it forever.....

I am conservative, in the truest sense of the word. Not the the new
right-wing sense, but in the Goldwater, real sense of being a
Conversative.
Perhaps, in these days, I'm more a Liberatrian, but I know that the US is
not designed for the 3-party system. It's stupid to think it is.

My mantra is: I don't care what you do, just don't ask me to pay for it.

Unfortunately, the holy rollers ask for money like the dirty hippies do. I
find each digusting. Leave me alone, and leave my money alone.

Black Metal Martha
www.bastmagazine.com

So, let me get this straight...we're NOT doing Toby Keith right?

Just a quick question...don't those metal T-shirts get hot in the summer? I
mean, you're kind of in an oven right? This stuff is just so damn
complicated! Where's my Sonny & Cher cassette...

-Larry

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haha! I don't like his music, but I love his attitude! It's very
metal.
He
don't take no ****. \m/

Martha

that's country music's attitude in GENERAL imo -

think Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard, Martina McBride, etc.

Johnny Cash wore black, I like that, even if I don't like the music.

frankly, i frigging love country music. i like old skool hardcore
punk,
heavy metal, etc. too. but country rools.

i also like its politics - politically incorrect, not afraid to be
pro-religion and pro-God, pro-individuality, pro-family, and no
nonsense.

whit

Well, I'm certainly not pro-religion, can't stand any religion, but
I
like
the politically incorrect part of it all.

I'm not sure if being pro-religion is being pro-individuality,
though

i'm not saying it is.

i am saying country music, on the whole is pro-both of those things

. They
seem to cross each other out.

that, imo, is rubbish

I remember being raised as a Lutheran and the
pastor telling us sheep were good and goats were bad. Being raised
in
a
farming family, I knew that was bull****. I probably became a
headbanger
way
back then. Everyone knows being like a sheep is being stupid, smelly
and
sharing a herd mentality so prized by religion.


your pastor was/is not the sine qua non of religious philosophy.

That's why us metalheads give the sign of the goat, it's
anti-religion.

Martha


wow, that's like so revolutionary and counter-culture! :l

whit

Well, the Hell's Angels and then the metalheads did it. just because
some
pop star bimbo sluts do it now doesn't take away what the symbol was and
does stand for.

yes, it does.

when everybody and their mother is doing something (and often with no
knowledge of its roots) it ceases to be "revolutionary".


We will do it forever.....


maybe you could wear some zoot suits, too.


I am conservative, in the truest sense of the word.

not in what i have seen you post. the most basic elements of conservatism
hark back (hark hark hark) to a hayekian/burkean philosophy.

most of what you have posted is NOT in line with that vision

Not the the new
right-wing sense, but in the Goldwater, real sense of being a
Conversative.
Perhaps, in these days, I'm more a Liberatrian, but I know that the US
is
not designed for the 3-party system. It's stupid to think it is.

My mantra is: I don't care what you do, just don't ask me to pay for it.

Unfortunately, the holy rollers ask for money like the dirty hippies do.
I
find each digusting. Leave me alone, and leave my money alone.

Black Metal Martha
www.bastmagazine.com

So, let me get this straight...we're NOT doing Toby Keith right?

Just a quick question...don't those metal T-shirts get hot in the summer?

sleeveless baybee.

shows off yer gunz dood

whit


I
mean, you're kind of in an oven right? This stuff is just so damn
complicated! Where's my Sonny & Cher cassette...

-Larry

sleeveless baybee.

shows off yer gunz dood

whit

lol...all I wear is sleeveless! My son accuses me of being a member of the
Village People, but I love wearing them. I just tell him he's a skater
punk, and that he knows nothing (we have a great relationship...he's a good
kid...and conservative). And once you get used to them, you hate sleeves.
Not to mention, my guns are looking pretty good these days. Went dancing
last Friday and met a gorgeous woman that asked if I had a girlfriend, then
gave me her number. Oh yeah! I didn't call her right away, so she emailed
me Monday (I gave her my card). So I called her last night. We're going
out Saturday for dinner. I'd of thought she was out of my league...she's
that nice. Must be the sleeveless shirt I wore Friday...

-Larry

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sleeveless baybee.

shows off yer gunz dood

whit

lol...all I wear is sleeveless! My son accuses me of being a member of
the
Village People, but I love wearing them. I just tell him he's a skater
punk, and that he knows nothing (we have a great relationship...he's a
good
kid...and conservative). And once you get used to them, you hate sleeves.
Not to mention, my guns are looking pretty good these days. Went dancing
last Friday and met a gorgeous woman that asked if I had a girlfriend,
then
gave me her number

tell me you didn't wear a sleeveless t-shirt to a dance club!

. Oh yeah! I didn't call her right away,

Industry Standard - Two days. but vince vaughn waits 5.


so she emailed
me Monday (I gave her my card). So I called her last night. We're going
out Saturday for dinner. I'd of thought she was out of my league...she's
that nice. Must be the sleeveless shirt I wore Friday...

-Larry

nevermind.

i don't think i'd ever wear one to a dance club, but i already think (imo)
that seattle people dress shabbily.

sleeveless t is fine for cruising around in nice weather, but not for
"nightlife" imo, unless that nightlife happens to be a speed metal concert
or something similarly grungy.

but that's me.

i feel underdressed if i am wearing something with short sleeves, if i am
"out" on the town

and anybody who wears shorts at night, "on the town" is rong (tm) imo

but maybe i'm too east coast or somethign

whit

"mapp" wrote in message
nk.net...

Larry Hodges wrote in message
...
sleeveless baybee.

shows off yer gunz dood

whit

lol...all I wear is sleeveless! My son accuses me of being a member of
the
Village People, but I love wearing them. I just tell him he's a skater
punk, and that he knows nothing (we have a great relationship...he's a
good
kid...and conservative). And once you get used to them, you hate
sleeves.
Not to mention, my guns are looking pretty good these days. Went
dancing
last Friday and met a gorgeous woman that asked if I had a girlfriend,
then
gave me her number

tell me you didn't wear a sleeveless t-shirt to a dance club!

. Oh yeah! I didn't call her right away,

Industry Standard - Two days. but vince vaughn waits 5.


so she emailed
me Monday (I gave her my card). So I called her last night. We're
going
out Saturday for dinner. I'd of thought she was out of my
league...she's
that nice. Must be the sleeveless shirt I wore Friday...

-Larry

nevermind.

i don't think i'd ever wear one to a dance club, but i already think (imo)
that seattle people dress shabbily.

sleeveless t is fine for cruising around in nice weather, but not for
"nightlife" imo, unless that nightlife happens to be a speed metal concert
or something similarly grungy.

but that's me.

i feel underdressed if i am wearing something with short sleeves, if i am
"out" on the town

and anybody who wears shorts at night, "on the town" is rong (tm) imo

but maybe i'm too east coast or somethign

whit

lmao, yeah, I wore it Friday night. I usually wear Dockers or wool trousers
and a polo or cotton long sleeve shirt. But Friday I wore a new Nike
sleeveless and Levis. What can I say. Which is one reason I was surprised
at her coming on to me. I didn't really expect it and was just out to have
some fun. I wasn't really trolling for chicks.

-Larry

Larry Hodges wrote in message
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"mapp" wrote in message
nk.net...

Larry Hodges wrote in message
...
sleeveless baybee.

shows off yer gunz dood

whit

lol...all I wear is sleeveless! My son accuses me of being a member
of
the
Village People, but I love wearing them. I just tell him he's a
skater
punk, and that he knows nothing (we have a great relationship...he's a
good
kid...and conservative). And once you get used to them, you hate
sleeves.
Not to mention, my guns are looking pretty good these days. Went
dancing
last Friday and met a gorgeous woman that asked if I had a girlfriend,
then
gave me her number

tell me you didn't wear a sleeveless t-shirt to a dance club!

. Oh yeah! I didn't call her right away,

Industry Standard - Two days. but vince vaughn waits 5.


so she emailed
me Monday (I gave her my card). So I called her last night. We're
going
out Saturday for dinner. I'd of thought she was out of my
league...she's
that nice. Must be the sleeveless shirt I wore Friday...

-Larry

nevermind.

i don't think i'd ever wear one to a dance club, but i already think
(imo)
that seattle people dress shabbily.

sleeveless t is fine for cruising around in nice weather, but not for
"nightlife" imo, unless that nightlife happens to be a speed metal
concert
or something similarly grungy.

but that's me.

i feel underdressed if i am wearing something with short sleeves, if i
am
"out" on the town

and anybody who wears shorts at night, "on the town" is rong (tm) imo

but maybe i'm too east coast or somethign

whit

lmao, yeah, I wore it Friday night. I usually wear Dockers or wool
trousers
and a polo or cotton long sleeve shirt. But Friday I wore a new Nike
sleeveless and Levis.

might be ok for a country bar.

although for the country bar, levis are rong (tm). gotta wear wranglers.

fwiw, i've never BOUGHT a sleeveless. i make them

What can I say.

"i'm sorry. forgive me"

Which is one reason I was surprised
at her coming on to me. I didn't really expect it and was just out to
have
some fun. I wasn't really trolling for chicks.

-Larry

you were flexing and preening! admit it!!!

:l

whit

"MH" writes:
"marbury" wrote in message
"MH" wrote in message
That's why us metalheads give the sign of the goat, it's anti-religion.

Martha


wow, that's like so revolutionary and counter-culture! :l

whit

Well, the Hell's Angels and then the metalheads did it. just because some
pop star bimbo sluts do it now doesn't take away what the symbol was and
does stand for. We will do it forever.....

It's not so much anti-religion as it is anti-Christian, given that the
goat-as-a-symbol-for-Satan thang predates either the Hell's Angels or the
metalheads (or motorcycles or electric guitars, while I'm at it).

When the HAs first did it, were they really being anti-religion, or were
they being pro-religion but rooting for the other team? :P


I am conservative, in the truest sense of the word. Not the the new
right-wing sense, but in the Goldwater, real sense of being a Conversative.
Perhaps, in these days, I'm more a Liberatrian, but I know that the US is
not designed for the 3-party system. It's stupid to think it is.

My mantra is: I don't care what you do, just don't ask me to pay for it.

You're right about the labels shifting. Your mantra is a succint view of
Classic Liberalism, which is better called {L/l}ibertarian these days, as
for the last few decades the "liberal" side of U.S. politics includes a
whole lot of socialist/communist/etc. thought.


Unfortunately, the holy rollers ask for money like the dirty hippies do. I
find each digusting. Leave me alone, and leave my money alone.

Can't argue with that.


D.

--
He single-handedly redefined tasteless. In this group that's no mean feat.
-- DRS