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Old October 29th, 2003, 04:01 AM
bamalamb
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

So this low carb bar I had today says: This bar has a net carb count of 3.
Only these 3 grams should be counted toward your daily carb intake. The
remaining 20 grams if non impact carbs come from glycerin, maltitol, and fiber
all of which have a minimal impact on blood sugar levels. Is this all a bunch
of crap?
meg

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Old October 29th, 2003, 04:41 AM
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

In article ,
pamsux (bamalamb) wrote:

So this low carb bar I had today says: This bar has a net carb count of 3.
Only these 3 grams should be counted toward your daily carb intake. The
remaining 20 grams if non impact carbs come from glycerin, maltitol, and fiber
all of which have a minimal impact on blood sugar levels. Is this all a bunch
of crap?
meg

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and then come rob my house. \\\///

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Well, from what I've learned it seems that fiber really doesn't have to be
counted at all, for anyone. As for the rest it can vary from person to
person. The best way to see how the sugar alcohols and glycerin affect you
is to test your blood sugar before and after eating them. I have never
done this, because my one experience with sugar alcohols (in my case it was
isomalt in hard candy) gave me the runs so I avoid them altogether.

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Old October 29th, 2003, 02:21 PM
Chet Hayes
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

miette wrote in message 7.11...
pamsux (bamalamb) wrote in
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So this low carb bar I had today says: This bar has a net carb count
of 3. Only these 3 grams should be counted toward your daily carb
intake. The remaining 20 grams if non impact carbs come from
glycerin, maltitol, and fiber all of which have a minimal impact on
blood sugar levels. Is this all a bunch of crap?
meg

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your pizza and then come rob my house. \\\///

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Fiber can be subtracted, but the other ingredients are iffy and the results
of consumption vary from person to person.

~miette


A study done at Ohio State on a normal test group showed that an
Atkins Advantage LC snack bar caused a minimal effect on blood glucose
levels. The rise was only slightly higher than an equal amount of
chicken breast. That is consistent with the labeling. Like anything
else, YMMV.
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Old October 29th, 2003, 02:52 PM
Jenny
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses the "impact
carb" scam in detail.

-- Jenny

Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * NEW! Do Starch Blockers Work?


"bamalamb" wrote in message
...
So this low carb bar I had today says: This bar has a net carb count of

3.
Only these 3 grams should be counted toward your daily carb intake. The
remaining 20 grams if non impact carbs come from glycerin, maltitol, and

fiber
all of which have a minimal impact on blood sugar levels. Is this all a

bunch
of crap?
meg

///\\\ Sure. Drive down my street while you're doped up, come get your

pizza
and then come rob my house. \\\///

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Old October 29th, 2003, 03:11 PM
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thank you to all that responded

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Old October 29th, 2003, 06:27 PM
Lee
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

"Jenny" wrote in message ...
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses the "impact
carb" scam in detail.

-- Jenny


I think I read this correctly. Those that suffer intestinal distress
probably aren't experiencing a blood glucose spike as a result of
ingesting sugar alcohols. I don't experience any negative side effects
from sugar alcohols, so I'm probably converting them to glucose, and
my blood sugar goes up as a result? I haven't found that they kick me
out of ketosis, but I am stuck in my diet - haven't lost in 4 months
or so. I do treat myself to one "low carb" sweet treat a day. I think
I'll skip them for a week and see if anything happens.

Very interesting info. Thanks for sharing.

Lee
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Old October 29th, 2003, 09:43 PM
Jenny
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

Lee,

Let us know whether cutting the sugar alcohols out of your diet (or counting
them as full carbs) makes a difference!


-- Jenny

Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
* Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats *
Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise
Starting from Zero * NEW! Do Starch Blockers Work?


"Lee" wrote in message
om...
"Jenny" wrote in message

...
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses the

"impact
carb" scam in detail.

-- Jenny


I think I read this correctly. Those that suffer intestinal distress
probably aren't experiencing a blood glucose spike as a result of
ingesting sugar alcohols. I don't experience any negative side effects
from sugar alcohols, so I'm probably converting them to glucose, and
my blood sugar goes up as a result? I haven't found that they kick me
out of ketosis, but I am stuck in my diet - haven't lost in 4 months
or so. I do treat myself to one "low carb" sweet treat a day. I think
I'll skip them for a week and see if anything happens.

Very interesting info. Thanks for sharing.

Lee



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Old October 29th, 2003, 10:42 PM
Chet Hayes
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

(Lee) wrote in message . com...
"Jenny" wrote in message ...
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses the "impact
carb" scam in detail.

-- Jenny


I think I read this correctly. Those that suffer intestinal distress
probably aren't experiencing a blood glucose spike as a result of
ingesting sugar alcohols. I don't experience any negative side effects
from sugar alcohols, so I'm probably converting them to glucose, and
my blood sugar goes up as a result? I haven't found that they kick me
out of ketosis, but I am stuck in my diet - haven't lost in 4 months
or so. I do treat myself to one "low carb" sweet treat a day. I think
I'll skip them for a week and see if anything happens.

Very interesting info. Thanks for sharing.

Lee




I wouldn't buy into this unproven science that unless you have gastric
distress, you must be having a significant rise in blood sugar. To my
knowledge, this is pure speculation.

Ohio State did a study of a group of normal people with no known
health problems. Their blood glucose response to an Atkins bar was
slight, not a lot more than to an equal size piece of chicken.
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Old October 30th, 2003, 01:27 AM
Wayne Crannell
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Default Non impact Carbs vs. Total Carbs, bunch of crap?

In article ,
(Chet Hayes) wrote:

(Lee) wrote in message
. com...
"Jenny" wrote in message
...
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/products.htm discusses the
"impact
carb" scam in detail.

-- Jenny


I think I read this correctly. Those that suffer intestinal distress
probably aren't experiencing a blood glucose spike as a result of
ingesting sugar alcohols. I don't experience any negative side effects
from sugar alcohols, so I'm probably converting them to glucose, and
my blood sugar goes up as a result? I haven't found that they kick me
out of ketosis, but I am stuck in my diet - haven't lost in 4 months
or so. I do treat myself to one "low carb" sweet treat a day. I think
I'll skip them for a week and see if anything happens.

Very interesting info. Thanks for sharing.

Lee




I wouldn't buy into this unproven science that unless you have gastric
distress, you must be having a significant rise in blood sugar. To my
knowledge, this is pure speculation.

Ohio State did a study of a group of normal people with no known
health problems. Their blood glucose response to an Atkins bar was
slight, not a lot more than to an equal size piece of chicken.


Come on now, Chet. Jenny is a expert on LC....she says every single
person in the world gets an insulin spike from low carb bars, so it must
be so. After all, her web site says she's an expert, so she must be one.
The fact that some of us can eat them and keep the weight off -- 2 years
for me on Monday -- is completely irrelevant!!!

--
Wayne Crannell
Atkins+ 10/27/01
250/139
 




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