Apology to Sunshyne

I was being sarcastic, Roger. I'm the last person in the world who needs
drama

--
Sheli

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...
guitarprincess wrote:
:: Wow, I missed what happened. I miss ALL the good stuff! Why the hell
:: is that.

This is not good stuff. It's very disappointing. If you want drama, go
watch TV.

::
:: --
:: Sheli
::
:: "Damsel in dis Dress" wrote in
:: message ...
::: I'm sorry, Sunshyne, for what I did to you last night. I was
::: feeling emotionally fragile, and Ignoramous' posts were affecting
::: me badly. Getting up this morning, I'm discovering that I'd have to
::: do a lot more killfiling to erase the jerk from my life, so I've
::: come up with another way of dealing with it.
:::
::: I'm very sorry if I caused you unnecessary pain.
:::
::: {{{{{Sunshyne}}}}}
:::
::: Carol
::: --
::: Fasting BG 143
::: 227/219.5/150 (official weigh-in day: Thursday)
::: June Challenge Goal: 213
::: Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
::: Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001
::: Diet, Exercise, Oral Medication

I was being sarcastic, Roger. I'm the last person in the world who needs
drama

No I'M the last person in the world who needs drama!



ROFL!!

~Carol Ann
176/176/130

In article ,
"rosie read and post" wrote:

I was diagnosed with depression a few years back, and my
: doctor wanted to put me on drugs, and I tried them but I had a bad
: reaction. Maybe some people think I should have tried a different
drug,
: but I realized that I was depressed for a damn good reason, so I
got off my
: butt and got a job and made friends and got a life, and lo and
behold I
: wasn't depressed anymore.
:
:

you are SO LUCKY to have been able to treat your depression that
easily................and YES, i said easily.



It didn't feel easy at the time. I'd been unemployed for two years, it was
scary to get back out there. It was scary to start socializing again too,
the first 10 times or so I made it less than an hour before I had to go
back home.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In article , Sunshyne wrote:
I'm sorry, Sunshyne, for what I did to you last night.

Please disregard the above. I just had the chance to read your reply to my
previous post. It would not be healthy for me to continue reading your
posts, afterall.

I hope no one starts making noises like you're stuck with any of your
problems forever when you know there are ways to improve whatever the
condition is. You'd know how I feel now, and I really don't want you to
ever feel that way.

Hmm. Lets practice bluntness. I don't give a ****. You are sorry one
minute,
then you are not. Is it the bipolar kicking in? Keep me in killfile. Go
****
yourself.

you were not "supportive enough" for that damsel...

i


I am not sure what exactly you are trying to say Ig. Please go into more
detail. So that I can understand.

It feels like the air is thick in here today. Like people waiting for any more
responses from me or from Damsel. I am ticked off that a thread was started
with my name in it, apologizing, then the apology was taken back. I would
really love to not have such drama.

I did not realize that I had to act a certain way, be supportive in a certain
way, hang with certain friends or people in order to recieve support and
friendship in return. Thats not my idea of friendship. Friendship is honoring
and accepting the other for what they are. Even if opinions differ. Even if
personality traits are different.

I do appreciate others keeping a neurtral ground. Thank you.












-Be gentle with yourselves, for you are in a process; you are changing,
growing, unfolding, and becoming, in manifested form, that which you already
are in essence.-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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267/209/135
CCLL-40

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
...

This is not good stuff. It's very disappointing. If you want drama, go
watch TV.


That was not drama, it was comedy. HTH

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:35:57 -0500, Damsel in dis Dress
wrote:


I'm sorry, Sunshyne, for what I did to you last night.


Please disregard the above. I just had the chance to read your reply to my
previous post. It would not be healthy for me to continue reading your
posts, afterall.

I hope no one starts making noises like you're stuck with any of your
problems forever when you know there are ways to improve whatever the
condition is. You'd know how I feel now, and I really don't want you to
ever feel that way.


Damsel,

I don't know whether I'm on your killfile list, just in case you're still
reading this thread:

I think S and I were making comments on how you can IMPROVE your conditions
*EVEN IF* you were stuck with the problems forever. OK, may be they weren't
very clear about that "EVEN IF", may be they're a bit pessimistic, but I don't
think either of them mean it badly.

If you think about your disorder as a scenario/action tree, it goes like this:

(a) (1) Disorder (2) Get treatment (3) Cured
(b) (1) Disorder (2) Get treatment (3) Not cured (4) Manage the problem
(c) (1) Disorder (2) Get treatment (3) Not cured (4) Give up entirely
(d) (1) Disorder (2) Do not get treatment (3) Cured magically
(e) (1) Disorder (2) Do not get treatment (3) Not cured (4) Manage the problem
(f) (1) Disorder (2) Do not get treatment (3) Not cured (4) Give up entirely

What S and I says, shall you find yourself at the Not Cured situation, you can
choose options (b) or (e) instead of (c) or (f). Damsel I hope that you'd view
their posts as offering you a backup plan, not as a discouragement to seek help.
You might not be ready for their backup plan and find their words offensive
but now that they've offered it, it's possibly good to keep it logged somewhere,
just in case.

Ada

"so I got off my butt and got a job and made friends and got a life, and lo
and behold I
wasn't depressed anymore."

"It didn't feel easy at the time"
Michelle Levin
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Excellent post Michelle. Happy pills and shoulders to cry on can only take a
person so far. The answer to a person's problems are within themselves.
Crutches are only temporary tools until a solution is found. Problems have a
way of festering until they become a crisis, and then options become more
limited. When a different problem arises, it doesn't just add, it compounds
to the existing one(s). With too many problems, a person becomes paralyzed
by constantly having to monitor and fix the patches. Unfortunately, a person
in this kind of predicament can't see the answers through the haze. Anybody
trying to help this person is viewed as an attacker or could be blamed for
the problem itself, like Ig and Sunshyne. Damsel, you can also add me to
your killfile filter crutch.

Tom
210/180/180

From: "Tom"
Excellent post Michelle. Happy pills and shoulders to cry on can only take a
person so far. The answer to a person's problems are within themselves.
Crutches are only temporary tools until a solution is found. Problems have a
way of festering until they become a crisis, and then options become more
limited. When a different problem arises, it doesn't just add, it compounds
to the existing one(s). With too many problems, a person becomes paralyzed
by constantly having to monitor and fix the patches. Unfortunately, a person
in this kind of predicament can't see the answers through the haze. Anybody
trying to help this person is viewed as an attacker or could be blamed for
the problem itself, like Ig and Sunshyne. Damsel, you can also add me to
your killfile filter crutch.

Tom
210/180/180




Good points Luna and Tom.

Sunshyne wrote:
I am not sure what exactly you are trying to say Ig. Please go into more
detail. So that I can understand.

Ignoramus wrote:
She wants a little bit too much from people, compared to how much she
is giving and how much is "reasonable"...
It feels like the air is thick in here today. Like people waiting for any
more
responses from me or from Damsel. I am ticked off that a thread was started
with my name in it, apologizing, then the apology was taken back. I would
really love to not have such drama.

I did not realize that I had to act a certain way, be supportive in a
certain
way, hang with certain friends or people in order to recieve support and
friendship in return. Thats not my idea of friendship. Friendship is
honoring
and accepting the other for what they are. Even if opinions differ. Even if
personality traits are different.

I do appreciate others keeping a neurtral ground. Thank you.

Some things, like these dramas, come with territory.


Yes they do, the territory thing.. I feel like shutting down. I am putting up a
brick wall right now. I don't know what else to say, or what else to do.

What this has all become. Its a reminder of something that happened on another
group, couple years ago. Its like a role reversal though. Me-in Damsels shoes.
I know what she if feeling, I know her mind is scattered in different
directions. I have felt the emotional pain she is feeling right now. There is
nothing else I can do, she has to face reality herself. She has to do her own
inner work, lead her own life.

This is not good stuff. It's very disappointing. If you want drama, go
watch TV.

In ways it is good stuff. I believe there are lessons all of us can learn. Each
in our own ways.

Whats so disappointing?