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nyny not too bad )OLD FRED?)
My mom used to say that us kids were a set and since whoever left had to
take all four neither of them had the guts to do it, they have been married 48 years, I always think I'm not sure I can stand myself for that many years... Lee Joyce wrote in message ... Again, I swear we are long lost sisters! I always tell the hub the same thing ... managed to take care of myself just fine before you, expect I can do the same if I have to. We currently stay together because we are fighting over who would get the kids ... as in ... YOU do. G Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:55:40 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: FRED! I was talking about MONEY WISE Good grief! As In I don't need the old guys wallet . You know what they say anyway, after a woman is past 50 she is more likely to be shot in the U.S.A. than she is to get married again. ! "Fred" wrote in message .. . (More silence....) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:22:51 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: tee hee, I just have this "father" thing I think. I can pretty much take care of myself. . "Fred" wrote in message news Oh, hoping for an inheritance? (gd&r) Sorry but I just purchased cross-country ski set number 15, I think! (G) Now I need some new bindings for them..... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:14:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: There is THAT. or THOSE. Legs, that is...... Tell you what though, from the advanced age of 55, since I do also love "older" men, Fred is probably too young for me..... "Joyce" wrote in message .. . hehehe - and we've seen the *leg* pics to prove that point! Joyce On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:14:37 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: GAAHHH. Quit teasing, I refuse to google it. And I have parttimers, which is one reason I cleaned up the diet, hoping not to progress to Alzheimers... Just spit it out, how old can you be? And don't think that your age will protect you, men tend to improve with age you know...... "Fred" wrote in message .. . Here's one hint - I have a friend who is 63 and he can hike me into the ground. And another who is over 70 and can, at least, keep up. Actually, I believe that I have mentioned my age before in some thread long ago and far away. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:47:31 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: hmmm the Fifth decade, or could you actually BE old, like 70 or something. Somehow I doubt it, you are too lively, although I did have a friend who was a tennis terror at 85. "Fred" wrote in message .. . I guess it is time to resort to court stuff again - I plead the Fifth. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: So how old are you Fred? You don't Look old. You better be older than I am if you are out there referring to yourself as OLD. Watch it now. La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad )OLD FRED?)
most things in life are relative, Lee
Lesanne wrote in message ... exactly "Fred" wrote in message ... I don't think getting shot would be all that pleasant. But compared to marriage ....... (g) On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:04:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Well, when I think about it seriously, getting shot is not such a bad thing, frequently not terminal, especially here where peoples' aim is not all that great. And I am a smaller target. You know what they say about the other, you are not complete until you are married, then you are Really Finished. Or the 3 ring thing.. Engagement ring, Wedding ring, SuffeRing... "Fred" wrote in message .. . I have not heard that "statistic." Got your bullet proof vest yet? (G) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:55:40 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: FRED! I was talking about MONEY WISE Good grief! As In I don't need the old guys wallet . You know what they say anyway, after a woman is past 50 she is more likely to be shot in the U.S.A. than she is to get married again. ! "Fred" wrote in message .. . (More silence....) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:22:51 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: tee hee, I just have this "father" thing I think. I can pretty much take care of myself. . "Fred" wrote in message news Oh, hoping for an inheritance? (gd&r) Sorry but I just purchased cross-country ski set number 15, I think! (G) Now I need some new bindings for them..... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:14:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: There is THAT. or THOSE. Legs, that is...... Tell you what though, from the advanced age of 55, since I do also love "older" men, Fred is probably too young for me..... "Joyce" wrote in message .. . hehehe - and we've seen the *leg* pics to prove that point! Joyce On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:14:37 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: GAAHHH. Quit teasing, I refuse to google it. And I have parttimers, which is one reason I cleaned up the diet, hoping not to progress to Alzheimers... Just spit it out, how old can you be? And don't think that your age will protect you, men tend to improve with age you know...... "Fred" wrote in message .. . Here's one hint - I have a friend who is 63 and he can hike me into the ground. And another who is over 70 and can, at least, keep up. Actually, I believe that I have mentioned my age before in some thread long ago and far away. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:47:31 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: hmmm the Fifth decade, or could you actually BE old, like 70 or something. Somehow I doubt it, you are too lively, although I did have a friend who was a tennis terror at 85. "Fred" wrote in message .. . I guess it is time to resort to court stuff again - I plead the Fifth. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: So how old are you Fred? You don't Look old. You better be older than I am if you are out there referring to yourself as OLD. Watch it now. La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad (OT - Joyce)
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:15:58 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:
"Joyce" wrote in message .. . The nasty area homes is really a shame. I have heard a lot of nightmare stories, had somewhat of an idea what to look for when trying to place mom (my sister is also a nurse). Guess we just got lucky, but did opt for a much older, smaller and established home that was within 2 blocks of where we grew up. Nursing staff turnover is very, very low ... which I also take as a good sign. I did look on some website at nursing home ratings, this one appeared (to me) to score very well. Again, just plain ol' dumb luck. ****This sounds like you have a wonderful place for your Mom. I think part of our problem is the culture here. Very "old mexico" in a way. This is both very very Good, and not so good. I am Expected to do what I am doing. The families take care of their own. The people in the nursing homes, either have no family to speak of, or are judged by a lot of people as having "bad" families. Well over 2/3 of the nurses in the nursing homes are from Canada or some other country. And hate it here. The other third are people who cannot get a job anywhere else in the country. Wow, makes me wonder why they stay here if they hate it so much. About half of the staff at mom's nursing home is from other countries, but they do appear to really love what they are doing - are extremely caring and gentle with the residents. I do think that people here still expect families to take care of their own though. I get a lot of judgemental looks whenever I have to tell someone that mom is in a home ... easy to judge when they aren't faced with the same issues. It isn't problem free though ... personal items and clothing seem to be constantly disappearing, which is becoming extremely frustrating. I bring mom's laundry home to do, usually end up with many articles of other residents .. and several pairs of pants I purchased a few weeks ago are gone already. sigh Probably is mom though, not having a clue which room is hers at the moment. I'm sorry your mom won't let you leave her sight, that has to be tough. It's not like we don't lay enough guilt on ourselves - sure don't need anyone else helping in that department. G Is the meanness just part of the disease? *****I take it with a grain of salt and go out anyway when I need to, but it is a consideration. I am going out tomorrow afternoon. She will do what she does (either act like, or genuinely get really confused). She will forget the whole thing by Saturday morning ! Meanness is supposed to be part of the disease, or at least profound personality changes. My Ma was always very sarcastic with me, and we never got along. She was "horrified" by my weight. My sister and she were both very tiny and petite. When Ma first began getting this, she became very afraid and was suddenly extremely "NICE" to me, which believe me, was icky. Now she is beginning to go back to mean, and frankly I am more comfortable with that. I can brave the restaurant trips, but still haven't attempted the shopping. Maybe after the holidays when things calm down, I know how much she misses shopping. Although ... she always tells me that she has just returned from running errands when I visit. g And boy can I relate to the personality changes! Mom was always kind of nasty mouthed when I was younger ... one of those that was never happy unless she was unhappy. Constantly complaining about something, one of us kids always on her sh** list. It wasn't fun, but at least we knew what to expect. At the moment she is really icky sweet and I'm having a tough time dealing with it. Some guilt trips are still being laid, but I really don't think they are conciously done now. I'm not sure which *mom* I prefer ... but I can recognize the *old* one easier. Joyce |
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nyny not too bad
General concensus around here is to not get involved. I remember when a neighbors
house was broken into many years ago, they were horrified that not one neighbor could help - we didn't see a thing. They never thought about those issues when they errected the huge fence that totally surrounded their yard and cut off any possibility of others being able to keep an eye on things. My sister is a nurse, said it is very difficult now to come to someone's aid when they are needed. Seems the chicago area is litigation happy. One wrong move by a well-meaning professional, and they are toast. Sad that this is what society has come to. Joyce On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:21:42 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: There is the culture thing here again, of course we don't have snow, but the guy would have been surrounded by people all arguing over the best thing to do within 30 seconds. I was driving down the street one evening and a guy on a motorcycle just literally fell off the thing in front of the car in front of mine. The guy in THAT car got out and as soon as he heard I was a nurse, and that I had called 911 on my cell phone he got into the street and began directing traffic. Two other nurses stopped to help before the ambulance got there. The guy was totally drunk, our only job was to keep him lying down until they arrived. Once when Ma overbalanced in a grocery store parking lot and sat down hard on her butt, I had about 30 people offer to help while I was assessing her, before getting her up again. "Joyce" wrote in message .. . Oh how funny! I do know how frustrating it could be though, but still would be hard to control the laughter. My brothers have no patience for the constant repitition - asking same questions over and over, within minutes of getting an answer. I've given up trying to explain that she isn't doing it on purpose, now just tell them she does it to pull their chains. Currently she is focused on her glasses ... constantly tells all of us she needs new glasses, that the pair she is wearing are ones that someone gave to her years ago. I've told her the changing eyesight is due to cataracts, not quite ready to have anything done on them yet. Then she changes to needing to have knee replacement surgery ... again. NOT gonna happen - will not take the risk of the anesthtic. Do I have the fun restaurant games ahead of me? Right now mom is ok going out, and does love to go (because they don't feed her at the home, ya know. The only meals she gets are those that she sneaks into *office meetings* for). Yet she has put weight on, so go figure. g The only problem we have at restaurants is that she needs to have the menu read to her, tells me what she wants, then tells the waiter something else. And always complains about what she gets. LOL But she hasn't had a bad desert yet! That really is a shame as to the care and respect the elderly get in your nursing homes. I know I've told you, but I do feel we got incredibly lucky. The staff where mom is, is wonderful! Appears to be lots of hugs and genuine caring, lots of attempts at what I call ego-boosting - working on raising mom's level of self-esteem. Why does it vary so much from home to home? While out shopping today, I had two senior ladies get lost in the store, couldn't find the elevator or their car. They didn't realize the store had two levels and two parking lots (both of which were totally packed). I overheard them talking and told them to just follow me as I was heading to the elevator. They acted so surprised that anyone would even give them the time of day ... chatted the entire time with me, and I walked them to the door leading to the upper parking lot. Our area is loaded with fast paced yuppies - rarely give the time of day to seniors and have no patience for them. Help? That's a foreign concept. Heck, last year I saw a wheelchair man tip over when coming out of his home - laid face down in the snow and ice. I was the only car to stop and try to help. The guy told me he was bleeding and I shouldn't help ... I told him I didn't care, we had to get him out of the snow ... at least his face. Called the police when I realized he was just too darned heavy for me to do anything (guess it was dead weight since he couldn't assist me at all). I still am dumbfounded that not one other person stopped ... but all didn't hesitate to slow down and gawk as they drove past. Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:54:16 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Yes, she had put one on, then another over it. I got her to come away by telling her they were "mens" coats (they were). I usually walk her in the mall when it is not open yet? And she gripes the whole way "nothing is open, this is boring, why are we here" and I tell her "for Exercise!" and she says "I don't need exercise" then a few steps farther and we do that all again... It is really neat taking her out to eat. She loves loves loves to go, but will do things like put butter on her knife and lick it off, or put tartar sauce on her vegetables, or bread, and don't even let her slow down at the desserts in a cafeteria or she will pick up two or three and carry them. As in lift them off the plates. One thing about our area, people really respect the elderly who are out in the community, and try to help. I don't know why it doesn't extend to care in the nursing homes. "Joyce" wrote in message .. . Oh Lesanne, I don't know whether to laugh or to cry. My mom is bugging me to take her Christmas shopping, not sure how you do it cuz I'm sure not looking forward to taking her into a store. I know she will want to bring everything home, swears she has no clothing and no food. sigh Was your mom putting one coat on top of the other? hehehe guess sometimes you just gotta laugh, at least hope you were able to later. (My frustrations always turn very humorous when I can finally retell them ... like the missing underwear that was lovingly giftbagged to go to my older brother) Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:25:45 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh, on a lighter note, Ma told me to "drop dead" out of the blue in a store yesterday. She is finally exhibiting some of the meanness I have heard about. I was trying to get her to walk, and she wanted to put on the jackets she was standing near. As in two or three of them. "Fred" wrote in message .. . You have pictured the idylic nature of winter camping - very pure and very quiet. I hope you can bring some of that serenity to whatever is happening. Vacations from caregiving are mandatory - I recall spelling my dad for a week and did not know how he did it as long as he did. It was also when my sister and I made the decision that dad needed full relief or he would die first - it was that simple. Best On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:17:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Oh the bliss envisioned by a mental picture of me, the tent, the space, the silence, the Lack of anyone, anywhere..... We are having some trouble in paradise here with my daughter that has me a bit freaked. I so want to run away from home. I gotta find some help with the home caregiving thing so I can take off once in a while, or things are going to be not good here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Okay. Be that way. Happy camper, huh - try snow camping (G) Chaos - hope you get it under control. Fred On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:11:03 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: I don't want no blinkin gifts buddy.... Snarl. (how was that?) you do know of course that if I get to Jan 1, under 164 I am a total happy camper? But It would be nice to have some space. But heck, things are a little chaotic here in humid land, I dunno what will transpire. "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, this morning was not as good as hoped. But you really have a great chance in about two weeks - we have our work "employee recognition breakfast" early the morning of WI. I will be dressed in jacket, tie, slacks, etc and will have breakfast and then head to WI! Not a great situtation unless I can sit with 300 others eating breakfast and NOT eat breakfast! But maybe it is time to just let you have it as I would really hate to be the one to drive you to desparation. Besides, some others are now giving you a run for the money. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:45:52 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Ah haha. You better be prepared to weigh in shorts I am having a very good week over here. "Fred" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:54:18 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: What did you do with your NEW body while you were rollin around in the snow with the OLD one? Or whats her name? would be the other smart a comment to Ah, the ol' "I did not wake up grumpy, I let her sleep!" (G) Actually, the new body must be in pretty good shape - I remember doing this trip last year and struggling a bit more. I was surprised at how early it was when I stopped for my SECOND lunch (G) Leaving on these trips early - one tends to snack somewhere around 10am with the first lunch and then eat again around noon. that one. I am on a major roll this week feeling SOOOO renewed after living through turkey day and ending up with my scale saying 159 again. I am gonna be hard to beat this week, unless you kept some of your fabulous recent loss......... I do hope I can disappoint you!!! I seem to be holding reasonably well (fingers crossed). Maybe thanksgiving and awful pies helps!!! (G) But clearly this means that I cannot weighin in full regalia. It will be your fault as I shiver in shorts. (g) La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad )OLD FRED?)
LOL! I like your mom more and more, Lee - she sounds delightful. My husband
tells everyone that the only reason we decided to get married was that it didn't make sense for us to screw up two marriages. By marrying each other, we only screwed up one. G Joyce On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:54:18 GMT, "Miss Violette" wrote: My mom used to say that us kids were a set and since whoever left had to take all four neither of them had the guts to do it, they have been married 48 years, I always think I'm not sure I can stand myself for that many years... Lee Joyce wrote in message .. . Again, I swear we are long lost sisters! I always tell the hub the same thing ... managed to take care of myself just fine before you, expect I can do the same if I have to. We currently stay together because we are fighting over who would get the kids ... as in ... YOU do. G Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:55:40 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: FRED! I was talking about MONEY WISE Good grief! As In I don't need the old guys wallet . You know what they say anyway, after a woman is past 50 she is more likely to be shot in the U.S.A. than she is to get married again. ! "Fred" wrote in message .. . (More silence....) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:22:51 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: tee hee, I just have this "father" thing I think. I can pretty much take care of myself. . "Fred" wrote in message news Oh, hoping for an inheritance? (gd&r) Sorry but I just purchased cross-country ski set number 15, I think! (G) Now I need some new bindings for them..... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:14:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: There is THAT. or THOSE. Legs, that is...... Tell you what though, from the advanced age of 55, since I do also love "older" men, Fred is probably too young for me..... "Joyce" wrote in message .. . hehehe - and we've seen the *leg* pics to prove that point! Joyce On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:14:37 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: GAAHHH. Quit teasing, I refuse to google it. And I have parttimers, which is one reason I cleaned up the diet, hoping not to progress to Alzheimers... Just spit it out, how old can you be? And don't think that your age will protect you, men tend to improve with age you know...... "Fred" wrote in message .. . Here's one hint - I have a friend who is 63 and he can hike me into the ground. And another who is over 70 and can, at least, keep up. Actually, I believe that I have mentioned my age before in some thread long ago and far away. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:47:31 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: hmmm the Fifth decade, or could you actually BE old, like 70 or something. Somehow I doubt it, you are too lively, although I did have a friend who was a tennis terror at 85. "Fred" wrote in message .. . I guess it is time to resort to court stuff again - I plead the Fifth. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: So how old are you Fred? You don't Look old. You better be older than I am if you are out there referring to yourself as OLD. Watch it now. La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad (OT - Joyce)
Isn't it funny how we want the mean Mommy back . I guess it is scary to
know they are not ever going to be the way we expect... I don't know. I just know when Ma got all "nice" and clingy it was very very scary for me. Mom loves to shop, gets all excited about new stuff, brings it home, plays with it for 10 minutes, then I find it in the large trash can in the garage. We don't buy a lot of stuff any more. "Joyce" wrote in message ... On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:15:58 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: "Joyce" wrote in message .. . The nasty area homes is really a shame. I have heard a lot of nightmare stories, had somewhat of an idea what to look for when trying to place mom (my sister is also a nurse). Guess we just got lucky, but did opt for a much older, smaller and established home that was within 2 blocks of where we grew up. Nursing staff turnover is very, very low ... which I also take as a good sign. I did look on some website at nursing home ratings, this one appeared (to me) to score very well. Again, just plain ol' dumb luck. ****This sounds like you have a wonderful place for your Mom. I think part of our problem is the culture here. Very "old mexico" in a way. This is both very very Good, and not so good. I am Expected to do what I am doing. The families take care of their own. The people in the nursing homes, either have no family to speak of, or are judged by a lot of people as having "bad" families. Well over 2/3 of the nurses in the nursing homes are from Canada or some other country. And hate it here. The other third are people who cannot get a job anywhere else in the country. Wow, makes me wonder why they stay here if they hate it so much. About half of the staff at mom's nursing home is from other countries, but they do appear to really love what they are doing - are extremely caring and gentle with the residents. I do think that people here still expect families to take care of their own though. I get a lot of judgemental looks whenever I have to tell someone that mom is in a home ... easy to judge when they aren't faced with the same issues. It isn't problem free though ... personal items and clothing seem to be constantly disappearing, which is becoming extremely frustrating. I bring mom's laundry home to do, usually end up with many articles of other residents .. and several pairs of pants I purchased a few weeks ago are gone already. sigh Probably is mom though, not having a clue which room is hers at the moment. I'm sorry your mom won't let you leave her sight, that has to be tough. It's not like we don't lay enough guilt on ourselves - sure don't need anyone else helping in that department. G Is the meanness just part of the disease? *****I take it with a grain of salt and go out anyway when I need to, but it is a consideration. I am going out tomorrow afternoon. She will do what she does (either act like, or genuinely get really confused). She will forget the whole thing by Saturday morning ! Meanness is supposed to be part of the disease, or at least profound personality changes. My Ma was always very sarcastic with me, and we never got along. She was "horrified" by my weight. My sister and she were both very tiny and petite. When Ma first began getting this, she became very afraid and was suddenly extremely "NICE" to me, which believe me, was icky. Now she is beginning to go back to mean, and frankly I am more comfortable with that. I can brave the restaurant trips, but still haven't attempted the shopping. Maybe after the holidays when things calm down, I know how much she misses shopping. Although ... she always tells me that she has just returned from running errands when I visit. g And boy can I relate to the personality changes! Mom was always kind of nasty mouthed when I was younger ... one of those that was never happy unless she was unhappy. Constantly complaining about something, one of us kids always on her sh** list. It wasn't fun, but at least we knew what to expect. At the moment she is really icky sweet and I'm having a tough time dealing with it. Some guilt trips are still being laid, but I really don't think they are conciously done now. I'm not sure which *mom* I prefer ... but I can recognize the *old* one easier. Joyce |
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she is an outstanding human being, and pretty funny too, Lee
Joyce wrote in message ... LOL! I like your mom more and more, Lee - she sounds delightful. My husband tells everyone that the only reason we decided to get married was that it didn't make sense for us to screw up two marriages. By marrying each other, we only screwed up one. G Joyce On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 00:54:18 GMT, "Miss Violette" wrote: My mom used to say that us kids were a set and since whoever left had to take all four neither of them had the guts to do it, they have been married 48 years, I always think I'm not sure I can stand myself for that many years... Lee Joyce wrote in message .. . Again, I swear we are long lost sisters! I always tell the hub the same thing ... managed to take care of myself just fine before you, expect I can do the same if I have to. We currently stay together because we are fighting over who would get the kids ... as in ... YOU do. G Joyce On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:55:40 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: FRED! I was talking about MONEY WISE Good grief! As In I don't need the old guys wallet . You know what they say anyway, after a woman is past 50 she is more likely to be shot in the U.S.A. than she is to get married again. ! "Fred" wrote in message .. . (More silence....) On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:22:51 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: tee hee, I just have this "father" thing I think. I can pretty much take care of myself. . "Fred" wrote in message news Oh, hoping for an inheritance? (gd&r) Sorry but I just purchased cross-country ski set number 15, I think! (G) Now I need some new bindings for them..... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:14:30 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: There is THAT. or THOSE. Legs, that is...... Tell you what though, from the advanced age of 55, since I do also love "older" men, Fred is probably too young for me..... "Joyce" wrote in message .. . hehehe - and we've seen the *leg* pics to prove that point! Joyce On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:14:37 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: GAAHHH. Quit teasing, I refuse to google it. And I have parttimers, which is one reason I cleaned up the diet, hoping not to progress to Alzheimers... Just spit it out, how old can you be? And don't think that your age will protect you, men tend to improve with age you know...... "Fred" wrote in message .. . Here's one hint - I have a friend who is 63 and he can hike me into the ground. And another who is over 70 and can, at least, keep up. Actually, I believe that I have mentioned my age before in some thread long ago and far away. On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:47:31 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: hmmm the Fifth decade, or could you actually BE old, like 70 or something. Somehow I doubt it, you are too lively, although I did have a friend who was a tennis terror at 85. "Fred" wrote in message .. . I guess it is time to resort to court stuff again - I plead the Fifth. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:56:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: So how old are you Fred? You don't Look old. You better be older than I am if you are out there referring to yourself as OLD. Watch it now. La "Fred" wrote in message .. . Well, ahem, within reason. (G) Dragged the OLD body out on a snowshoe trip yesterday. Glorious in the mountains but the snow was definitely not my definition of skiable. On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:58:06 +1300, Erin Marsh wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:34:57 -0800, Fred wrote: Okay, that is it!!!! (G) Aw, c'mon Fred. Admit it, you're loving the attention ;-) |
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nyny not too bad (OT - Joyce)
Yup, I was thinking the same thing last week. I knew how to relate to the *other*
mommy - this nice one is odd. She has also become very clingy, which I don't recall ever once seeing her. That's one nice thing about the nursing home, not really any room for a lot of *stuff* - so not much shopping to really do. We thought a radio would be nice, give her something to listen to and keep up with the news ... it has disappeared several times, this last time appears to be gone forever. But clothing she NEEDS. I had bought enough to go at least 2 weeks, figuring I wouldn't have to take laundry home and bust my butt to get it back the next day ... so she didn't have to go nekid. This weeks laundry I found many articles of other people, and virtually nothing left in her closet. I return what I find, but whoever is getting mom's isn't returning it. It is becoming very frustrating. I am wondering if a lot of *shopping* is going on in the nursing home ... you know, shopping in other people's closets? G Joyce On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Isn't it funny how we want the mean Mommy back . I guess it is scary to know they are not ever going to be the way we expect... I don't know. I just know when Ma got all "nice" and clingy it was very very scary for me. Mom loves to shop, gets all excited about new stuff, brings it home, plays with it for 10 minutes, then I find it in the large trash can in the garage. We don't buy a lot of stuff any more. "Joyce" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:15:58 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: "Joyce" wrote in message .. . The nasty area homes is really a shame. I have heard a lot of nightmare stories, had somewhat of an idea what to look for when trying to place mom (my sister is also a nurse). Guess we just got lucky, but did opt for a much older, smaller and established home that was within 2 blocks of where we grew up. Nursing staff turnover is very, very low ... which I also take as a good sign. I did look on some website at nursing home ratings, this one appeared (to me) to score very well. Again, just plain ol' dumb luck. ****This sounds like you have a wonderful place for your Mom. I think part of our problem is the culture here. Very "old mexico" in a way. This is both very very Good, and not so good. I am Expected to do what I am doing. The families take care of their own. The people in the nursing homes, either have no family to speak of, or are judged by a lot of people as having "bad" families. Well over 2/3 of the nurses in the nursing homes are from Canada or some other country. And hate it here. The other third are people who cannot get a job anywhere else in the country. Wow, makes me wonder why they stay here if they hate it so much. About half of the staff at mom's nursing home is from other countries, but they do appear to really love what they are doing - are extremely caring and gentle with the residents. I do think that people here still expect families to take care of their own though. I get a lot of judgemental looks whenever I have to tell someone that mom is in a home ... easy to judge when they aren't faced with the same issues. It isn't problem free though ... personal items and clothing seem to be constantly disappearing, which is becoming extremely frustrating. I bring mom's laundry home to do, usually end up with many articles of other residents .. and several pairs of pants I purchased a few weeks ago are gone already. sigh Probably is mom though, not having a clue which room is hers at the moment. I'm sorry your mom won't let you leave her sight, that has to be tough. It's not like we don't lay enough guilt on ourselves - sure don't need anyone else helping in that department. G Is the meanness just part of the disease? *****I take it with a grain of salt and go out anyway when I need to, but it is a consideration. I am going out tomorrow afternoon. She will do what she does (either act like, or genuinely get really confused). She will forget the whole thing by Saturday morning ! Meanness is supposed to be part of the disease, or at least profound personality changes. My Ma was always very sarcastic with me, and we never got along. She was "horrified" by my weight. My sister and she were both very tiny and petite. When Ma first began getting this, she became very afraid and was suddenly extremely "NICE" to me, which believe me, was icky. Now she is beginning to go back to mean, and frankly I am more comfortable with that. I can brave the restaurant trips, but still haven't attempted the shopping. Maybe after the holidays when things calm down, I know how much she misses shopping. Although ... she always tells me that she has just returned from running errands when I visit. g And boy can I relate to the personality changes! Mom was always kind of nasty mouthed when I was younger ... one of those that was never happy unless she was unhappy. Constantly complaining about something, one of us kids always on her sh** list. It wasn't fun, but at least we knew what to expect. At the moment she is really icky sweet and I'm having a tough time dealing with it. Some guilt trips are still being laid, but I really don't think they are conciously done now. I'm not sure which *mom* I prefer ... but I can recognize the *old* one easier. Joyce |
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We used to sew labels into my great Aunts clothing. It helped some.
"Joyce" wrote in message ... Yup, I was thinking the same thing last week. I knew how to relate to the *other* mommy - this nice one is odd. She has also become very clingy, which I don't recall ever once seeing her. That's one nice thing about the nursing home, not really any room for a lot of *stuff* - so not much shopping to really do. We thought a radio would be nice, give her something to listen to and keep up with the news ... it has disappeared several times, this last time appears to be gone forever. But clothing she NEEDS. I had bought enough to go at least 2 weeks, figuring I wouldn't have to take laundry home and bust my butt to get it back the next day ... so she didn't have to go nekid. This weeks laundry I found many articles of other people, and virtually nothing left in her closet. I return what I find, but whoever is getting mom's isn't returning it. It is becoming very frustrating. I am wondering if a lot of *shopping* is going on in the nursing home ... you know, shopping in other people's closets? G Joyce On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Isn't it funny how we want the mean Mommy back . I guess it is scary to know they are not ever going to be the way we expect... I don't know. I just know when Ma got all "nice" and clingy it was very very scary for me. Mom loves to shop, gets all excited about new stuff, brings it home, plays with it for 10 minutes, then I find it in the large trash can in the garage. We don't buy a lot of stuff any more. "Joyce" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:15:58 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: "Joyce" wrote in message .. . The nasty area homes is really a shame. I have heard a lot of nightmare stories, had somewhat of an idea what to look for when trying to place mom (my sister is also a nurse). Guess we just got lucky, but did opt for a much older, smaller and established home that was within 2 blocks of where we grew up. Nursing staff turnover is very, very low ... which I also take as a good sign. I did look on some website at nursing home ratings, this one appeared (to me) to score very well. Again, just plain ol' dumb luck. ****This sounds like you have a wonderful place for your Mom. I think part of our problem is the culture here. Very "old mexico" in a way. This is both very very Good, and not so good. I am Expected to do what I am doing. The families take care of their own. The people in the nursing homes, either have no family to speak of, or are judged by a lot of people as having "bad" families. Well over 2/3 of the nurses in the nursing homes are from Canada or some other country. And hate it here. The other third are people who cannot get a job anywhere else in the country. Wow, makes me wonder why they stay here if they hate it so much. About half of the staff at mom's nursing home is from other countries, but they do appear to really love what they are doing - are extremely caring and gentle with the residents. I do think that people here still expect families to take care of their own though. I get a lot of judgemental looks whenever I have to tell someone that mom is in a home ... easy to judge when they aren't faced with the same issues. It isn't problem free though ... personal items and clothing seem to be constantly disappearing, which is becoming extremely frustrating. I bring mom's laundry home to do, usually end up with many articles of other residents .. and several pairs of pants I purchased a few weeks ago are gone already. sigh Probably is mom though, not having a clue which room is hers at the moment. I'm sorry your mom won't let you leave her sight, that has to be tough. It's not like we don't lay enough guilt on ourselves - sure don't need anyone else helping in that department. G Is the meanness just part of the disease? *****I take it with a grain of salt and go out anyway when I need to, but it is a consideration. I am going out tomorrow afternoon. She will do what she does (either act like, or genuinely get really confused). She will forget the whole thing by Saturday morning ! Meanness is supposed to be part of the disease, or at least profound personality changes. My Ma was always very sarcastic with me, and we never got along. She was "horrified" by my weight. My sister and she were both very tiny and petite. When Ma first began getting this, she became very afraid and was suddenly extremely "NICE" to me, which believe me, was icky. Now she is beginning to go back to mean, and frankly I am more comfortable with that. I can brave the restaurant trips, but still haven't attempted the shopping. Maybe after the holidays when things calm down, I know how much she misses shopping. Although ... she always tells me that she has just returned from running errands when I visit. g And boy can I relate to the personality changes! Mom was always kind of nasty mouthed when I was younger ... one of those that was never happy unless she was unhappy. Constantly complaining about something, one of us kids always on her sh** list. It wasn't fun, but at least we knew what to expect. At the moment she is really icky sweet and I'm having a tough time dealing with it. Some guilt trips are still being laid, but I really don't think they are conciously done now. I'm not sure which *mom* I prefer ... but I can recognize the *old* one easier. Joyce |
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the way my mom solved this was to engrave things like lamps and radios with
grandfather's name and ssn, clothes got name and ssn at first then just name, worked prettworked good, Lee Joyce wrote in message ... Yup, I was thinking the same thing last week. I knew how to relate to the *other* mommy - this nice one is odd. She has also become very clingy, which I don't recall ever once seeing her. That's one nice thing about the nursing home, not really any room for a lot of *stuff* - so not much shopping to really do. We thought a radio would be nice, give her something to listen to and keep up with the news ... it has disappeared several times, this last time appears to be gone forever. But clothing she NEEDS. I had bought enough to go at least 2 weeks, figuring I wouldn't have to take laundry home and bust my butt to get it back the next day ... so she didn't have to go nekid. This weeks laundry I found many articles of other people, and virtually nothing left in her closet. I return what I find, but whoever is getting mom's isn't returning it. It is becoming very frustrating. I am wondering if a lot of *shopping* is going on in the nursing home ... you know, shopping in other people's closets? G Joyce On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: Isn't it funny how we want the mean Mommy back . I guess it is scary to know they are not ever going to be the way we expect... I don't know. I just know when Ma got all "nice" and clingy it was very very scary for me. Mom loves to shop, gets all excited about new stuff, brings it home, plays with it for 10 minutes, then I find it in the large trash can in the garage. We don't buy a lot of stuff any more. "Joyce" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:15:58 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote: "Joyce" wrote in message .. . The nasty area homes is really a shame. I have heard a lot of nightmare stories, had somewhat of an idea what to look for when trying to place mom (my sister is also a nurse). Guess we just got lucky, but did opt for a much older, smaller and established home that was within 2 blocks of where we grew up. Nursing staff turnover is very, very low ... which I also take as a good sign. I did look on some website at nursing home ratings, this one appeared (to me) to score very well. Again, just plain ol' dumb luck. ****This sounds like you have a wonderful place for your Mom. I think part of our problem is the culture here. Very "old mexico" in a way. This is both very very Good, and not so good. I am Expected to do what I am doing. The families take care of their own. The people in the nursing homes, either have no family to speak of, or are judged by a lot of people as having "bad" families. Well over 2/3 of the nurses in the nursing homes are from Canada or some other country. And hate it here. The other third are people who cannot get a job anywhere else in the country. Wow, makes me wonder why they stay here if they hate it so much. About half of the staff at mom's nursing home is from other countries, but they do appear to really love what they are doing - are extremely caring and gentle with the residents. I do think that people here still expect families to take care of their own though. I get a lot of judgemental looks whenever I have to tell someone that mom is in a home ... easy to judge when they aren't faced with the same issues. It isn't problem free though ... personal items and clothing seem to be constantly disappearing, which is becoming extremely frustrating. I bring mom's laundry home to do, usually end up with many articles of other residents .. and several pairs of pants I purchased a few weeks ago are gone already. sigh Probably is mom though, not having a clue which room is hers at the moment. I'm sorry your mom won't let you leave her sight, that has to be tough. It's not like we don't lay enough guilt on ourselves - sure don't need anyone else helping in that department. G Is the meanness just part of the disease? *****I take it with a grain of salt and go out anyway when I need to, but it is a consideration. I am going out tomorrow afternoon. She will do what she does (either act like, or genuinely get really confused). She will forget the whole thing by Saturday morning ! Meanness is supposed to be part of the disease, or at least profound personality changes. My Ma was always very sarcastic with me, and we never got along. She was "horrified" by my weight. My sister and she were both very tiny and petite. When Ma first began getting this, she became very afraid and was suddenly extremely "NICE" to me, which believe me, was icky. Now she is beginning to go back to mean, and frankly I am more comfortable with that. I can brave the restaurant trips, but still haven't attempted the shopping. Maybe after the holidays when things calm down, I know how much she misses shopping. Although ... she always tells me that she has just returned from running errands when I visit. g And boy can I relate to the personality changes! Mom was always kind of nasty mouthed when I was younger ... one of those that was never happy unless she was unhappy. Constantly complaining about something, one of us kids always on her sh** list. It wasn't fun, but at least we knew what to expect. At the moment she is really icky sweet and I'm having a tough time dealing with it. Some guilt trips are still being laid, but I really don't think they are conciously done now. I'm not sure which *mom* I prefer ... but I can recognize the *old* one easier. Joyce |
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