Should the morbidly obese ------

You would do well to hate obesity.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Robin King" wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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| Lose the excuses.
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| --
| JC
|
| Lyle's New Ultimate Diet
|
| "1. eat less you fat ****
| 2. exercise more you fat ****"

Lose the hate.

Robin

regardless, still good advice.

Kurt

"Robin King" wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
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| Lose the excuses.
|
| --
| JC
|
| Lyle's New Ultimate Diet
|
| "1. eat less you fat ****
| 2. exercise more you fat ****"

Lose the hate.

Robin

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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:24:19 -0400, "buddhabellybum"
wrote:

regardless, still good advice.

Kurt

It is not the message-it is the delivery that makes you and your
friend idiots.

LV

Remove "intel" from address to reply

Lady Veteran
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"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
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Support bacteria - they're the only culture
some people have." -Stephen Wright
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Ridicule of fat people is never acceptable.
Those who insist on doing this are living
examples of that old Chinese proverb:

Keep mouth closed and be thought a fool:
Open mouth and remove all doubt.

In other words, they are idiots.
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Chris Taylor Jr wrote:
Below


Top 10 reasons fat people are not accepted:

10. They are slow and slothlike, lumbering towards their
destination, blocking you from yours.

I am 365 pounds at 6'3" tall. Not sure what that is medically but I
would call that morbidly obese since I am 140 pounds overweight at
least. although most never guess my weight to be more than 280-300 (I
wish I was that light)

I am faster than most people think. Faster than most people "are"

I also tend to move rather quickly. I do not like "wasting" time and
moveming from point to point any slower than needed is a wasting of
precious time.

9. The(y) cost society millions of dollars in obesity related
diseases.

I cost society nothing. I have not had so much as a common cold for
as long as I can remember (over 20 years) my cholesterol BP etc.. are
all FINE. (fingers crossed)

8. They ruin your dinner out because they are so digusting to
look at as they feed ravenously.

Actually I eat suprisingly little for my size. When I go away on trips
(many) we usually eat at buffets simple because of variety and
affordability. I eat one very large plate of salad (Obsessed with
salad which makes atkins hard) and a normalplate of food. I can never
get through more. I simply am full at that point.

7. They smell like sweat and **** from the inability to reach
themselves.

I never smell. my body can produce some very strong odors (even
before I was overweight) so hygiene is extremely important to me. I
keep deoderant in the car and shower sometimes twice a day if I even
think I am getting the slightest bit smelly and I can reach just fine
thankyou.

6. They don't bathe nearly as often as normal people.

I bath more than the average person does. being oveweight I MUST bath
more often.

5. They complain about everything and are generally rude and
unpleasant since they are so miserable.

I only complain about people like you and the ass hole politicians
who are throwing our freedom and rights away left and right and
nobody is doing anything about it.

4. They are always single-minded, looking for their next trough
of food.

Most of my intake is a matter of convenience. on the run all the time
so I eat on the run. Now I have learned to cook a crap load of food
on sundays and prep it for individual meals throughout the week. I
basically make my own convenience food except its healty.
I hate eating at fast food. I LOVE heaping mounds of vegetables.
something you can not get at fast food. but I also do notusually have
an hour to stop at a restaurant if not longer.

3. At movie theaters and on airplanes they always selfishly
invade your space.

In theaters I usually wait till things are filling up and then pick a
spot where I have a seat to my left and right open. its as
uncomfortable for me as it is for you you know.

2. They rarely try to lose weight and prefer to remain gluttonous
hogs. They usually lie about their diets.

It is not nearly as easy as you think. every GENE in your body
RESISTS any attempt to remove the fat short of cutting it out. your
body WANTS to keep the fat. in HS etc.. I was EXTREMELY active. so I
had a ferocious (sp) appetite. I was huge (6'0" 185 pounds) without
an ounce of fat on me. When I went to college my appetite remained
and my activity level whent from extreme to ZIP

I blew up in under a year.

since then I have been FIGHTING to lose the weight. I can maintain
easy enough without even watching what I eat. 395 for the last 5+
years. (now 365)

Atkins is so far the FIRST method that looks to be possibly
effective. I have so far lost 35 pounds. I quite atkins for a while
(stopped working I now know this was a "stall") as eating LC is VERY
Expensive. never gained even one pound back. still 365 7 months
later. I am LC'ing again and plan to stick with it this time no
matter the cost. eventually my amazingly fortunate immune system
etc.. WILL fail me unless I drop the weight.

hardest thing is excercise. no TIME. (and do not say make time the
amount of time in a day is finite and unalterable) you either have
time or you do not. When I was working I was doing 5 12 hours shifts
a week. that leaves VERY little time for me. Work Drive Sleep Drive
Work Drive Sleep etc.. repeat for 6 out of 7 days. (nights) My
activity level throughout most of a day consisted of sitting at a
desk answering tech support questions on a phone. Not conducive to
losing weight. the only reason I am not COMPLETELY out of shape in
all regards is that my muscles have to work pretty damned hard just
to MOVE me.

I have since been laid off (they are going out of buisness it seems I
hope they survive until the economy picks up again) and now I have a
LOT of time on my hands and I plan to make very good use of it.

1. They get in the way of looking at normal, thin, good-looking
people.


ahh pitty pitty for you.


Very true on all counts. And they are this kind of beast by their
own choosing. If they really exercised some self discipline and
were self-respecting people they would not be morbidly obese.

Self Discipline is only half of it. Losing weight is NOT easy. I
would like to see any normal not overweight person EAT till they gain
30 pounds and then try to lose it. it is NOT easy. your body resists
at every step of the way.

even atkins is a CHEAT. you are TRICKING your body into doing
something it does not want to do (burn fat) by strictly controlling
your diet so it does not know its not getting what it "thinks" it
needs (sugar carbs etc..) and the natural process of switching to fat
stores kicks in.

I hope to have lost 140 pounds by next summer. I also plan next
summer to participate in the MS 150 bike tour. (150 mile bike tour in
NJ) I participated this year as a volunteer ham radio operator and
thought it was the coolest thing I have seen in a while and looks
like a lot of fun. I have a short term goal of 300 by christmas (not
sure if that is possible but I am going to try)

why 300 ? cause then I can stop going to the vet to get weighed (only
scale that will weigh me) and can buy a normal scale (they all stop
at 300)

Gives me even more incentive to drop the weight as I would NEVER make
it (MS 150) at my current weight.

To go on your tact. I hate high metabolism people. they have it so
easy. can eat as much as they want and not gain an ouch. my freaking
brother is like this. he can down a gallon of ice cream and not gain
an ounce and he is the epitomy of lazy. NEVER excercises I GET far
more physical activity in a day than he does. SUCKS.

so bite me.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

Good luck with your program- leave the SSFA types behind and follow
misc.fitness.weights

what is SSFA ?

Is misc.fitness.weights a newsgroup ? (I will probably answer that before
you reply but figured to ask just in case I dead end.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/



Good luck with your program- leave the SSFA types behind and follow
misc.fitness.weights

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
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what is SSFA ?

soc.support.fat-acceptance, a newsgroup

Is misc.fitness.weights a newsgroup ? (I will probably answer that before
you reply but figured to ask just in case I dead end.

Yes. If you look at the top of the window you are viewing this message in,
you'll see that this thread is crossposted to the 'usuals'
(soc.support.fat-acceptance, alt.support.diet.low-carb, soc.singles,
alt.support.diet.weigh****chers, misc.fitness.weights). These groups tend
to get crossposted to when some loser wants to **** in the sandbox and get
the other kids to do the fighting while it sits back and laughs.

Followups set

revek

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:02:09 -0400, "Chris Taylor Jr"
wrote:

what is SSFA ?

Is misc.fitness.weights a newsgroup ? (I will probably answer that before

The headers in your message include:
Path:
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X-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:02:17 GMT (sccrnsc02)

So, you can see that misc.fitness.weights is a newgroup, as is
soc.support.fat-acceptance, and your message has gone to both.

Those in the mfw camp generally laugh at and demean those in any of
the fat acceptance groups. Self-pitying fatasses who won't help
themselves show up and are examined with fascination, sort of like
roadkill. Then they leave. It's good to have a place to run to if
you can't take the heat. But, I get the feeling you're not like that
Chris. You should stick around mfw for a while and see if you like
it. I'll bet you could learn some useful info. I've learned a ton
since I started hanging out in mfw.

So, in the spirit of mfw, train harder, eat less, and welcome aboard.

- HW

Grr I need to keep an eye on that. I hate crossposting unneccessarily I
usually clip out the other NG's

was not paying attention these nights :-)

thanks for the welcome. I have already subscribed to the mfw group.

as for acceptance. I look in the mirror ad am repulsed by my 365 pounds. how
could anyone "accept" that.

Don't want to be a twig but I also would prefer to be NORMAL and 365 pounds
is not normal for anyone except maybe waldo :-)

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"hardworkin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 00:02:09 -0400, "Chris Taylor Jr"
wrote:

what is SSFA ?

Is misc.fitness.weights a newsgroup ? (I will probably answer that before

The headers in your message include:
Path:

sccrnsc02!attbi_slave02!attbi_slave01!attbi_slave5 2!attbi_master51!attbi_fee
d3!attbi.com!204.127.161.155!wn11feed!worldnet.att .net!4.24.21.153!chcgil2-s
nh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed
1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!diablo.voicen et.com!diablo2.voicenet.co
m!nntp.voicenet.com!not-for-mail
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alt.support.diet.weigh****chers:114902 misc.fitness.weights:222740
X-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 04:02:17 GMT (sccrnsc02)

So, you can see that misc.fitness.weights is a newgroup, as is
soc.support.fat-acceptance, and your message has gone to both.

Those in the mfw camp generally laugh at and demean those in any of
the fat acceptance groups. Self-pitying fatasses who won't help
themselves show up and are examined with fascination, sort of like
roadkill. Then they leave. It's good to have a place to run to if
you can't take the heat. But, I get the feeling you're not like that
Chris. You should stick around mfw for a while and see if you like
it. I'll bet you could learn some useful info. I've learned a ton
since I started hanging out in mfw.

So, in the spirit of mfw, train harder, eat less, and welcome aboard.

- HW

5. They complain about everything and are generally rude and
unpleasant
since they are so miserable.

LOL

Seems to me it's not the fat folk doing the whining around here!



Rachel
(New Zealand)

Chris Taylor Jr wrote:


To go on your tact. I hate high metabolism people. they have it so easy. can

try to think of it like this. food is expensive and those
high metabolism people are like a car that gets poor gas mileage.



eat as much as they want and not gain an ouch. my freaking brother is like
this. he can down a gallon of ice cream and not gain an ounce and he is the
epitomy of lazy. NEVER excercises I GET far more physical activity in a day
than he does. SUCKS.

so bite me.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/