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Old March 20th, 2004, 10:48 PM
diane
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I was listening to a talk show this morning ( Dr Hoffman) and he was talking
about the effects of high fructose corn syrups since their introduction in
the 1970's and the obesity trend. His discussion wasn't posted on his
website, but the facts were also in this website I found:
http://www.applesforhealth.com/Healt...g/oecfsf4.html

""" fructose, sweeter than either sucrose or glucose, sidesteps certain key
regulatory processes in the body. For example, it does not stimulate
insulin, which is believed to be part of an important feedback pathway
involved with feelings of fullness.

At the same time, it stimulates formation of fat cells more than other
sweeteners.
"Once inside the cell, it forms the backbone for fat molecules," he said of
a key breakdown product of fructose.

Although Bray acknowledged the epidemic of obesity is the result of many
factors, he added, "I believe (fructose) plays a role."""



Amazing! This is one more supporting item for low carbing.

Diane
Atkins since 12/4/2003
234/208/150 5"8


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Old March 20th, 2004, 11:50 PM
kahout
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Diane,

I was listening to the same program. Dr Hoffman often has interesting
health news, I'm a regular listener myself; I also like his book on
intelligent medicine but I wish he would take time and update it.
Thanks for the link.
Kevin

"diane" wrote in message
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|
| I was listening to a talk show this morning ( Dr Hoffman) and he was
talking
| about the effects of high fructose corn syrups since their introduction in
| the 1970's and the obesity trend. His discussion wasn't posted on his
| website, but the facts were also in this website I found:
| http://www.applesforhealth.com/Healt...g/oecfsf4.html
|
| """ fructose, sweeter than either sucrose or glucose, sidesteps certain
key
| regulatory processes in the body. For example, it does not stimulate
| insulin, which is believed to be part of an important feedback pathway
| involved with feelings of fullness.
|
| At the same time, it stimulates formation of fat cells more than other
| sweeteners.
| "Once inside the cell, it forms the backbone for fat molecules," he said
of
| a key breakdown product of fructose.
|
| Although Bray acknowledged the epidemic of obesity is the result of
many
| factors, he added, "I believe (fructose) plays a role."""
|
|
|
| Amazing! This is one more supporting item for low carbing.
|
| Diane
| Atkins since 12/4/2003
| 234/208/150 5"8
|
|


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Old March 21st, 2004, 12:15 AM
DJ Delorie
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"diane" writes:
Amazing! This is one more supporting item for low carbing.


Or at least low-fructosing.

On carb-up days, I eat about 700-900 grams of carbs, and I have to be
very careful about what type of carbs they are, limiting fructose
intake to a specific amount at a specific part of the cycle.

Fructose has to go through the liver before anything else can use it,
so it's a prime candidate for conversion to other things (like fats)
and repletes liver glycogen preferrably (i.e. it affects ketosis and
other hormones faster).
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Old March 21st, 2004, 04:57 AM
Skinny pre-diabetic-hypoglycemic
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On 20 Mar 2004 19:15:38 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
/snip/

Fructose has to go through the liver before anything else can use it,
so it's a prime candidate for conversion to other things (like fats)
and repletes liver glycogen preferrably (i.e. it affects ketosis and
other hormones faster).


http://www.applesforhealth.com/Healt...g/oecfsf4.html
""" fructose, sweeter than either sucrose or glucose, sidesteps certain
key regulatory processes in the body. For example, it does not stimulate
insulin, which is believed to be part of an important feedback pathway
involved with feelings of fullness."""

Fascinating for us who are trying to get enough calories without having
insulin over-reactions. Do you know how fructose 'sidesteps' insulin?
Perhaps by being slow-release, ie having low Glycemic Load?

Glycemic Load (ie, effect on BG level soon after eating)

18 for Honey (Canada){GR}
11 for Maltose[GR]
10 for Glucose/Dextrose/normal sugar{GR}
7 for 99% Malitol product[GR}
5 for Lactose{GR]
2 for Fructose[GR]
1 for Xylitol[GR]

0 for Glycerol/Gylcerine[M]
0 for Polydextrose[M]

Sources:
[GR] GI /GL tables in THE NEW GLUCOSE REVOLUTION, p. 319
[M] http://www.mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm



Skinny --
pre-diab hypo

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Old March 21st, 2004, 12:14 PM
Jenny
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I've been convinced for years that the substitution of high fructose corn
syrup in sodas and prepared foods is one of the major causes of the "obesity
epidemic" especially in kids.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"kahout" wrote in message
...
Diane,

I was listening to the same program. Dr Hoffman often has interesting
health news, I'm a regular listener myself; I also like his book on
intelligent medicine but I wish he would take time and update it.
Thanks for the link.
Kevin

"diane" wrote in message
...
|
| I was listening to a talk show this morning ( Dr Hoffman) and he was
talking
| about the effects of high fructose corn syrups since their introduction

in
| the 1970's and the obesity trend. His discussion wasn't posted on his
| website, but the facts were also in this website I found:
| http://www.applesforhealth.com/Healt...g/oecfsf4.html
|
| """ fructose, sweeter than either sucrose or glucose, sidesteps certain
key
| regulatory processes in the body. For example, it does not stimulate
| insulin, which is believed to be part of an important feedback pathway
| involved with feelings of fullness.
|
| At the same time, it stimulates formation of fat cells more than other
| sweeteners.
| "Once inside the cell, it forms the backbone for fat molecules," he

said
of
| a key breakdown product of fructose.
|
| Although Bray acknowledged the epidemic of obesity is the result of
many
| factors, he added, "I believe (fructose) plays a role."""
|
|
|
| Amazing! This is one more supporting item for low carbing.
|
| Diane
| Atkins since 12/4/2003
| 234/208/150 5"8
|
|




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Old March 21st, 2004, 03:00 PM
diane
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I always reached for a diet soda, because a regular soda never quenched my
thirst. Man, the evil fruit juice isle at the grocery store. The Capri Suns
I put in my kids lunch every day, the Snapples I drank to feel healthy. It
is in everything, even spagetti sauce & Spagetti-o's!

The whole middle of the grocery store for that matter. They don't know what
to do with all that corn- make fuel out of it, not bad food.

Diane


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Old April 9th, 2004, 08:40 PM
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Jenny wrote:
: I've been convinced for years that the substitution of high fructose corn
: syrup in sodas and prepared foods is one of the major causes of the "obesity
: epidemic" especially in kids.

There's a raft of evidence that supports this line of thinking.
It's explained quite well, and in lay-terms, in the book,
_Fatland: How Americans became the Fattest People in the
World_ by Greg Critser. A kind of "preaching to the choir"
in this ng, but it's fascinating nonetheless.

TammyM
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Old April 10th, 2004, 07:39 PM
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 19:40:40 +0000 (UTC), TammyM
wrote:

Jenny wrote:
: I've been convinced for years that the substitution of high fructose corn
: syrup in sodas and prepared foods is one of the major causes of the "obesity
: epidemic" especially in kids.

There's a raft of evidence that supports this line of thinking.
It's explained quite well, and in lay-terms, in the book,
_Fatland: How Americans became the Fattest People in the
World_ by Greg Critser. A kind of "preaching to the choir"
in this ng, but it's fascinating nonetheless.

TammyM


It is the parents fault for allowing their kids to eat crap all the
time, because it is easier to let the little darlings have anything
they want. That way the kids can't interfere with the parents
lifestyles. It is not the fault of an inanimate object. All I hear
here is excuses.

Sleepy

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Old April 11th, 2004, 09:56 AM
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"Sleepyman" wrote ...
TammyM wrote:
Jenny wrote:
: I've been convinced for years that the substitution of high fructose

corn
: syrup in sodas and prepared foods is one of the major causes of the

"obesity
: epidemic" especially in kids.

There's a raft of evidence that supports this line of thinking.
It's explained quite well, and in lay-terms, in the book,
_Fatland: How Americans became the Fattest People in the
World_ by Greg Critser. A kind of "preaching to the choir"
in this ng, but it's fascinating nonetheless.


It is the parents fault for allowing their kids to eat crap all the
time, because it is easier to let the little darlings have anything
they want. That way the kids can't interfere with the parents
lifestyles. It is not the fault of an inanimate object. All I hear
here is excuses.


Oh dear god I just agreed with you Sleepy ...

It must be the caffeine talking

)

Rachel
(New Zealand)


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Old April 11th, 2004, 02:15 PM
Jenny
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Sleepyman,

Richard A. Anderson, a heavy duty nutritional researcher at USDA Beltsville
Agricultural Research Center was quoted in the AARP magazine this month
stating that the liver processes HFCS differently than glucose so that it
goes directly into fat storage rather than into blood glucose that can be
burned. He states unequivocally that HFCS has a large part to play in the
obesity epidemic.

(He's the guy behind the Cinnamon research in Pakistan, too, BTW).

I'm not making excuses for anyone. I've kept my weight under control almost
all of my life despite having some kind of genetic diabetes. But I have
read widely enough in nutrition/obesity research to be convinced that there
are mechanisms built into normal animals eating normal foods that prevent
obesity unless genetic damage or something else, in this case engineered
foods providing huge amounts of chemicals that in nature are rare which
preferentially metabolize into fats. Trans fat is another form of food
found only in small amounts in nature which the body preferentially turns
into damaging fats.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.4.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm



"Sleepyman" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 19:40:40 +0000 (UTC), TammyM
wrote:

Jenny wrote:
: I've been convinced for years that the substitution of high fructose

corn
: syrup in sodas and prepared foods is one of the major causes of the

"obesity
: epidemic" especially in kids.

There's a raft of evidence that supports this line of thinking.
It's explained quite well, and in lay-terms, in the book,
_Fatland: How Americans became the Fattest People in the
World_ by Greg Critser. A kind of "preaching to the choir"
in this ng, but it's fascinating nonetheless.

TammyM


It is the parents fault for allowing their kids to eat crap all the
time, because it is easier to let the little darlings have anything
they want. That way the kids can't interfere with the parents
lifestyles. It is not the fault of an inanimate object. All I hear
here is excuses.

Sleepy

____________________________________
The True Axis of Evil
Bush - Cheney - Ashcroft - Rumsfeld
____________________________________



 




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