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In article .com, JMA
wrote: Beverly wrote: "Ignoramus22980" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:49:56 GMT, Carol Frilegh wrote: The University of Chicago routinely trained me and innumerable other students to become ruthless and unprincipled Machiavellians. That is precisely why so many neophyte Neo-Con students gravitated towards the University of Chicago or towards Chicago Alumni at other universities. Years later, the University of Chicago b I wonder if I, being a graduate of the University of Chicago, am also a ruthless and unprincipled Machiavellian. -- 223/172.2/180 I can't believe you were ignorant enough to respond to one of these attack posts and didn't trim the damn headers. I can. Jenn That's it Jenn, your preoccupation with Ig is tiresome and dilutes the qualities of your intelligent posts. BFN -- Diva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman |
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Carol Frilegh wrote: In article .com, JMA wrote: Beverly wrote: "Ignoramus22980" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:49:56 GMT, Carol Frilegh wrote: The University of Chicago routinely trained me and innumerable other students to become ruthless and unprincipled Machiavellians. That is precisely why so many neophyte Neo-Con students gravitated towards the University of Chicago or towards Chicago Alumni at other universities. Years later, the University of Chicago b I wonder if I, being a graduate of the University of Chicago, am also a ruthless and unprincipled Machiavellian. -- 223/172.2/180 I can't believe you were ignorant enough to respond to one of these attack posts and didn't trim the damn headers. I can. Jenn That's it Jenn, your preoccupation with Ig is tiresome and dilutes the qualities of your intelligent posts. BFN -- Diva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman See ya! Jenn |
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Carol Frilegh wrote: In article .com, JMA wrote: Beverly wrote: "Ignoramus22980" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:49:56 GMT, Carol Frilegh wrote: The University of Chicago routinely trained me and innumerable other students to become ruthless and unprincipled Machiavellians. That is precisely why so many neophyte Neo-Con students gravitated towards the University of Chicago or towards Chicago Alumni at other universities. Years later, the University of Chicago b I wonder if I, being a graduate of the University of Chicago, am also a ruthless and unprincipled Machiavellian. -- 223/172.2/180 I can't believe you were ignorant enough to respond to one of these attack posts and didn't trim the damn headers. I can. Jenn That's it Jenn, your preoccupation with Ig is tiresome and dilutes the qualities of your intelligent posts. BFN -- Diva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman See ya! Jenn |
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"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message ... In article , Mary M/Ohio wrote: Sorry if this posts twice, but it is not appearing for me -- it showed up for a minute and then said it was no longer available on the server. So I am trying again! I was intrigued with the idea when I first heard it a few years ago (from Dr. Phil, I think) -- that we remain overweight for some "payoff" reason that is usually unconscious. Just as Dr, Phil maintains his fascination with weight issues because for him it's a big pay off. Yes, I'm not enamored with him, but I've learned to "take what you like and leave the rest" in regard to many things in life, including Dr. Phil! Mary |
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"Carol Frilegh" wrote in message ... In article , Mary M/Ohio wrote: Sorry if this posts twice, but it is not appearing for me -- it showed up for a minute and then said it was no longer available on the server. So I am trying again! I was intrigued with the idea when I first heard it a few years ago (from Dr. Phil, I think) -- that we remain overweight for some "payoff" reason that is usually unconscious. Just as Dr, Phil maintains his fascination with weight issues because for him it's a big pay off. Yes, I'm not enamored with him, but I've learned to "take what you like and leave the rest" in regard to many things in life, including Dr. Phil! Mary |
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the "second assassination" from the right - i.e. the use of
scandal to stamp out Kennedy's reputation and legacy. That something was the Church Committee. Belated revelations about the CIA's role in Watergate, and later of the CIA's illegal domestic operations created a critical firestorm demanding a full-scale investigation of the CIA. The fallout from Watergate had produced large Democratic majorities in both houses of congress via the 1974 elections. This majority, combined with some of the moderate Republicans, managed to form special congressional committees. The committee in the Senate was headed by Idaho's Frank Church. Other leading lights on that committee were Minnesota's Walter Mondale, Colorado's Gary Hart, Tennessee's Howard Baker, and Pennsylvania's Richard Schweiker. As writers Kate Olmsted and Loch Johnson have shown, the Church Committee was obstructed by two of the CIA's most potent allies: the major media and friendly public figures. In the latter category, Olmsted especially highlights the deadly role of Henry Kissinger. But as Victor Marchetti revealed to me, there was also something else at work behind the scenes. In an interview in his son's office in 1993, Marchetti told me that he never really thought |
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the "second assassination" from the right - i.e. the use of
scandal to stamp out Kennedy's reputation and legacy. That something was the Church Committee. Belated revelations about the CIA's role in Watergate, and later of the CIA's illegal domestic operations created a critical firestorm demanding a full-scale investigation of the CIA. The fallout from Watergate had produced large Democratic majorities in both houses of congress via the 1974 elections. This majority, combined with some of the moderate Republicans, managed to form special congressional committees. The committee in the Senate was headed by Idaho's Frank Church. Other leading lights on that committee were Minnesota's Walter Mondale, Colorado's Gary Hart, Tennessee's Howard Baker, and Pennsylvania's Richard Schweiker. As writers Kate Olmsted and Loch Johnson have shown, the Church Committee was obstructed by two of the CIA's most potent allies: the major media and friendly public figures. In the latter category, Olmsted especially highlights the deadly role of Henry Kissinger. But as Victor Marchetti revealed to me, there was also something else at work behind the scenes. In an interview in his son's office in 1993, Marchetti told me that he never really thought |
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-Garrison. As
has been shown by Summers, Davis, and David Scheim, being anti- Garrison is always a plus for media exposure. 2) If they found a conspiracy, Ewing's history would guarantee it would be mob- oriented. Another plus for media exposure. 3) As Anson reveals, Ewing has now broadened his character assassination talents from Garrison to the Kennedys (p. 110). Like John Davis, and against the record, Ewing believes RFK was not only in on the Castro plots but controlled them to the point of choosing which mobsters to use. His source on this? A "senior CIA official" (Anson p. 115). Did Ewing follow the Davis example and lunch with Richard Helms? Not since Gerald Posner has a book on the JFK case been as touted as Hersh's. It started in Esquire with a teaser article in its September 1996 issue. In July and September of this year, Liz Smith kept up the barrage of pro-Hersh blurbs in her column. The September 23rd notice stated that Hersh's book would focus on the Kennedys and Monroe and how RFK had Monroe killed. As everyone knows by now, the whole Monroe angle blew up in Hersh's face. When Hersh had to reluctantly admit on ABC that he had been had, he did it on |
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-Garrison. As
has been shown by Summers, Davis, and David Scheim, being anti- Garrison is always a plus for media exposure. 2) If they found a conspiracy, Ewing's history would guarantee it would be mob- oriented. Another plus for media exposure. 3) As Anson reveals, Ewing has now broadened his character assassination talents from Garrison to the Kennedys (p. 110). Like John Davis, and against the record, Ewing believes RFK was not only in on the Castro plots but controlled them to the point of choosing which mobsters to use. His source on this? A "senior CIA official" (Anson p. 115). Did Ewing follow the Davis example and lunch with Richard Helms? Not since Gerald Posner has a book on the JFK case been as touted as Hersh's. It started in Esquire with a teaser article in its September 1996 issue. In July and September of this year, Liz Smith kept up the barrage of pro-Hersh blurbs in her column. The September 23rd notice stated that Hersh's book would focus on the Kennedys and Monroe and how RFK had Monroe killed. As everyone knows by now, the whole Monroe angle blew up in Hersh's face. When Hersh had to reluctantly admit on ABC that he had been had, he did it on |
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date of Collier's work
approximates the time when the Kennedy book idea was originated. Ignoring the shoddy approach and scholarly standards of the work, the New York Times, Washington Post, and New Republic all gave the book prominent and glowing reviews. In the latter case, Martin Peretz placed the book on the August 27, 1984 New Republic cover under the title "Dissolute Dynasty." He then got longtime Kennedy basher Midge Decter to write a long review that branded the saga "a sordid story." Right after this ecstatic reception, in 1985, Horowitz and Collier landed a feature story in the Washington Post as "Lefties for Reagan." Two years later, the pair went on a USIA-State Department sponsored tour of Nicaragua. This was at a time when the CIA was dumping millions into that country in a huge psychological and propaganda war effort. That same year, with lots of foundation money, the pair arranged a "Second Thoughts" conference in Washington. This was basically a meeting of "reformed" sixties liberals bent on attacking that decade and anyone who wished to hold it up as an era of excitement and/or progressive achievement. Peretz attended that conference. Later, they sponsored another conference entitled "Second Thoughts on Race in America." This might have been called the Washington Post take on race in the eighties since it featured such Kay Graham-Ben Bradlee employees as Richard Cohen, Juan Williams, and Joe Klein. Today, these two see themselves as armed guards protecting America from any renaissance of sixties activism after Reagan. They are quite open about this and Kennedy's role in it in Destructive Generation: "Just as Eisenhower's holding action in the Fifties led to JFK's New Frontier liberalism in the Sixties...so the clamped-down Reaganism of the Eighties has precipitated the current radical resurgence...." Is one to conclude that Clinton |
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