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Old August 9th, 2004, 07:12 PM
metonymy
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Heywood Mogroot wrote:


Most anybody committed to losing up to 1%/week of their bodyweight can
do so without undue stress, or serious hunger. I consider most WLS
surgical centers to be one rung below slime on the morality scale.
What a capital waste of our nation's medical resources.



This simply isn't true. Were weight loss that easy, there would not be
an obesity problem is this country.


I've been tracking my calories for years and I can assure you that 2000
calories a day will cause me steady weight gain even when doing hard
aerobic exercise (100 to 120 miles a week of cycling).


I've never lost a pound eating more than 1000 calories a day and
experiencing serious hunger.






--
He who strives always to the utmost,
him we can save.

Goethe Faust Part II
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Old August 9th, 2004, 07:12 PM
metonymy
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Heywood Mogroot wrote:


Most anybody committed to losing up to 1%/week of their bodyweight can
do so without undue stress, or serious hunger. I consider most WLS
surgical centers to be one rung below slime on the morality scale.
What a capital waste of our nation's medical resources.



This simply isn't true. Were weight loss that easy, there would not be
an obesity problem is this country.


I've been tracking my calories for years and I can assure you that 2000
calories a day will cause me steady weight gain even when doing hard
aerobic exercise (100 to 120 miles a week of cycling).


I've never lost a pound eating more than 1000 calories a day and
experiencing serious hunger.






--
He who strives always to the utmost,
him we can save.

Goethe Faust Part II
  #13  
Old August 10th, 2004, 12:41 AM
Heywood Mogroot
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metonymy wrote in message ...
Heywood Mogroot wrote:


Most anybody committed to losing up to 1%/week of their bodyweight can
do so without undue stress, or serious hunger. I consider most WLS
surgical centers to be one rung below slime on the morality scale.
What a capital waste of our nation's medical resources.



This simply isn't true. Were weight loss that easy, there would not be
an obesity problem is this country.


I think we have more of a mass ignorance problem, and that is the root
cause of mass obesity.

How many people know that 3500 kcal adds up to a lb of fat, and that
the corn syrup in cokes gets converted into bad fats by the liver? How
many people recognize that white bread is essentially equivalent to
cotton candy as far as sugar metabolism goes?

How many people have figured out that one 12oz coke/day adds up to 18
lbs of added weight over a year?

I've been tracking my calories for years and I can assure you that 2000
calories a day will cause me steady weight gain even when doing hard
aerobic exercise (100 to 120 miles a week of cycling).


I am certainly no expert, but it looks like your exercise regimen
could be part of the problem. You might need more muscle, and less
exhaustion and caloric stress to your system.

I've never lost a pound eating more than 1000 calories a day and
experiencing serious hunger.


Sure 1000 kcal/day isn't enough to keep one satiated. I'm certainly
not suggesting my diet experiences are the norm, but I think I'm
closer to the norm than you.

Doing a diet wrong (losing muscle and wrecking one's metabolism) can
be worse than not dieting at all, it seems. How fast have you lost
weight in the past? At what weight would you not lose at 1000
kcal/day? What is your lean body weight?

From the OP's account of his failure on atkins:

"I suppose that's why the Atkins diet appealed to me so much. The
Low-Carb diet is a scientific revelation. I lost over 25kg in 18months
(2001), and I was eating heaps too!"

I suspect his particular problem is an unhealthy relationship with
food, not a slow metabolism.

Heywood

232/185/182
  #14  
Old August 10th, 2004, 12:41 AM
Heywood Mogroot
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metonymy wrote in message ...
Heywood Mogroot wrote:


Most anybody committed to losing up to 1%/week of their bodyweight can
do so without undue stress, or serious hunger. I consider most WLS
surgical centers to be one rung below slime on the morality scale.
What a capital waste of our nation's medical resources.



This simply isn't true. Were weight loss that easy, there would not be
an obesity problem is this country.


I think we have more of a mass ignorance problem, and that is the root
cause of mass obesity.

How many people know that 3500 kcal adds up to a lb of fat, and that
the corn syrup in cokes gets converted into bad fats by the liver? How
many people recognize that white bread is essentially equivalent to
cotton candy as far as sugar metabolism goes?

How many people have figured out that one 12oz coke/day adds up to 18
lbs of added weight over a year?

I've been tracking my calories for years and I can assure you that 2000
calories a day will cause me steady weight gain even when doing hard
aerobic exercise (100 to 120 miles a week of cycling).


I am certainly no expert, but it looks like your exercise regimen
could be part of the problem. You might need more muscle, and less
exhaustion and caloric stress to your system.

I've never lost a pound eating more than 1000 calories a day and
experiencing serious hunger.


Sure 1000 kcal/day isn't enough to keep one satiated. I'm certainly
not suggesting my diet experiences are the norm, but I think I'm
closer to the norm than you.

Doing a diet wrong (losing muscle and wrecking one's metabolism) can
be worse than not dieting at all, it seems. How fast have you lost
weight in the past? At what weight would you not lose at 1000
kcal/day? What is your lean body weight?

From the OP's account of his failure on atkins:

"I suppose that's why the Atkins diet appealed to me so much. The
Low-Carb diet is a scientific revelation. I lost over 25kg in 18months
(2001), and I was eating heaps too!"

I suspect his particular problem is an unhealthy relationship with
food, not a slow metabolism.

Heywood

232/185/182
  #15  
Old August 10th, 2004, 04:23 AM
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Good for you!!!!

i want to be banded also but at this time my insurance will not cover
it.

cal

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Old August 10th, 2004, 04:23 AM
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Good for you!!!!

i want to be banded also but at this time my insurance will not cover
it.

cal

  #17  
Old August 10th, 2004, 04:23 AM
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Good for you!!!!

i want to be banded also but at this time my insurance will not cover
it.

cal

  #18  
Old August 10th, 2004, 01:24 PM
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 16:41:44, Heywood Mogroot
wrote:

How many people know that 3500 kcal adds up to a lb of fat, and that
the corn syrup in cokes gets converted into bad fats by the liver? How
many people recognize that white bread is essentially equivalent to
cotton candy as far as sugar metabolism goes?

Thank goodness Coke in the rest of the world is sweetened with sugar!
Not ideal, but better than corn syrup. Yet sweetcorn itself is a
"dieter's friend", I find, as it passes through one virtually unchanged.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday
snaps!
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Old August 10th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Annabel Smyth
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 16:41:44, Heywood Mogroot
wrote:

How many people know that 3500 kcal adds up to a lb of fat, and that
the corn syrup in cokes gets converted into bad fats by the liver? How
many people recognize that white bread is essentially equivalent to
cotton candy as far as sugar metabolism goes?

Thank goodness Coke in the rest of the world is sweetened with sugar!
Not ideal, but better than corn syrup. Yet sweetcorn itself is a
"dieter's friend", I find, as it passes through one virtually unchanged.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday
snaps!
  #20  
Old August 10th, 2004, 01:24 PM
Annabel Smyth
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 at 16:41:44, Heywood Mogroot
wrote:

How many people know that 3500 kcal adds up to a lb of fat, and that
the corn syrup in cokes gets converted into bad fats by the liver? How
many people recognize that white bread is essentially equivalent to
cotton candy as far as sugar metabolism goes?

Thank goodness Coke in the rest of the world is sweetened with sugar!
Not ideal, but better than corn syrup. Yet sweetcorn itself is a
"dieter's friend", I find, as it passes through one virtually unchanged.
--
Annabel Smyth
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/index.html
Website updated 7 August 2004 - for a limited time, be bored by my holiday
snaps!
 




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