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Old August 19th, 2004, 06:13 PM
Linda
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I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have gotten much support
and information from this group (thank you!) But now I've reached the
end of my rope and need some advice, and I thought some of you might
be able to give me some words of wisdom.

I started low-carbing in May 2002, one year ahead of my wedding, at
the weight of 152 (I am 5'6"). By my wedding date, I was 25 pounds
lighter, at 127 (yay!) On my two-week honeymoon in Tahiti, I put on
14 pounds (yikes!), 7 pounds of which I was able to take off the first
week back.

Since then (one year and four months) I have been basically taking one
step forward and two steps back. During my pre-wedding weight loss, I
was pretty much keeping around 30-40 carbs a day. Almost a year ago I
cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that. Once every
couple of months, either on a business trip or a weekend getaway, I
eat whatever I want, gain about 4 pounds, and then over the next few
weeks lose about 3 of them, so I've been slowly going backwards. I am
now at 142. Even when I go for months at a time staying faithfully at
20 grams or less, I can't lose anything, and often gain.

I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
rules, and still…I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is that
all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it. I'm ready
to chuck it all, but I'm afraid to because if I gain weight staying at
20 carbs a day, what's going to happen if I quit? I don't want to be
one of those statistics that gain back everything they lose and then
some.

Can anybody out there give me any advice?

Thank you in advance,
Linda
  #2  
Old August 19th, 2004, 06:23 PM
Cheri
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My best advice is that you have to count calories too, especially when
trying to maintain, at least that's been my experience. Good luck.

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.



I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
rules, and still…I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is that
all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it. I'm ready
to chuck it all, but I'm afraid to because if I gain weight staying at
20 carbs a day, what's going to happen if I quit? I don't want to be
one of those statistics that gain back everything they lose and then
some.

Can anybody out there give me any advice?

Thank you in advance,
Linda



  #3  
Old August 19th, 2004, 06:23 PM
Cheri
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My best advice is that you have to count calories too, especially when
trying to maintain, at least that's been my experience. Good luck.

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.



I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
rules, and still…I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is that
all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it. I'm ready
to chuck it all, but I'm afraid to because if I gain weight staying at
20 carbs a day, what's going to happen if I quit? I don't want to be
one of those statistics that gain back everything they lose and then
some.

Can anybody out there give me any advice?

Thank you in advance,
Linda



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Old August 19th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Roger Zoul
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1) get control of your head. You can't eat everything you want and also not
be fat. You have to decide which one you really want to do. I know it is
hard, but having a love affair with food will make things very difficult.
try to beat it down.

2) start paying attention to how much you're eating, not just carbs. decide
that not matter what, you won't let your weight creep more than 5 lbs over
where you want to be (well, you must be realistic about this - 127 may just
be too little for you. Why not compromise at 135 with 140 being your "i'm
going to quit eating now" point.) Seriously, don't ever let yourself think
that you won't have to struggle to not be fat. That is the plight of a
formerly fat person, sadly.

3) look at your workout program. What are you doing? Perhaps it's time to
revise it - notch up the intensity. Add some real muscle mass to boost your
BMR.

4) you know exactly what will happen if you quit. think long and hard about
that -- try to visualize yourself naked while in front of a mirror. Yep, do
that every morning....

5) quit lurking. hanging out here will help you keep your focus. keeping
focus is very important, believe it or not.

Linda wrote:
:: I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have gotten much
:: support and information from this group (thank you!) But now I've
:: reached the end of my rope and need some advice, and I thought some
:: of you might be able to give me some words of wisdom.
::
:: I started low-carbing in May 2002, one year ahead of my wedding, at
:: the weight of 152 (I am 5'6"). By my wedding date, I was 25 pounds
:: lighter, at 127 (yay!) On my two-week honeymoon in Tahiti, I put on
:: 14 pounds (yikes!), 7 pounds of which I was able to take off the
:: first week back.
::
:: Since then (one year and four months) I have been basically taking
:: one step forward and two steps back. During my pre-wedding weight
:: loss, I was pretty much keeping around 30-40 carbs a day. Almost a
:: year ago I cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that.
:: Once every couple of months, either on a business trip or a weekend
:: getaway, I eat whatever I want, gain about 4 pounds, and then over
:: the next few weeks lose about 3 of them, so I've been slowly going
:: backwards. I am now at 142. Even when I go for months at a time
:: staying faithfully at 20 grams or less, I can't lose anything, and
:: often gain.
::
:: I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
:: really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
:: rules, and still.I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is
:: that all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it.
:: I'm ready to chuck it all, but I'm afraid to because if I gain
:: weight staying at 20 carbs a day, what's going to happen if I quit?
:: I don't want to be one of those statistics that gain back everything
:: they lose and then some.
::
:: Can anybody out there give me any advice?
::
:: Thank you in advance,
:: Linda


  #5  
Old August 19th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Roger Zoul
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1) get control of your head. You can't eat everything you want and also not
be fat. You have to decide which one you really want to do. I know it is
hard, but having a love affair with food will make things very difficult.
try to beat it down.

2) start paying attention to how much you're eating, not just carbs. decide
that not matter what, you won't let your weight creep more than 5 lbs over
where you want to be (well, you must be realistic about this - 127 may just
be too little for you. Why not compromise at 135 with 140 being your "i'm
going to quit eating now" point.) Seriously, don't ever let yourself think
that you won't have to struggle to not be fat. That is the plight of a
formerly fat person, sadly.

3) look at your workout program. What are you doing? Perhaps it's time to
revise it - notch up the intensity. Add some real muscle mass to boost your
BMR.

4) you know exactly what will happen if you quit. think long and hard about
that -- try to visualize yourself naked while in front of a mirror. Yep, do
that every morning....

5) quit lurking. hanging out here will help you keep your focus. keeping
focus is very important, believe it or not.

Linda wrote:
:: I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have gotten much
:: support and information from this group (thank you!) But now I've
:: reached the end of my rope and need some advice, and I thought some
:: of you might be able to give me some words of wisdom.
::
:: I started low-carbing in May 2002, one year ahead of my wedding, at
:: the weight of 152 (I am 5'6"). By my wedding date, I was 25 pounds
:: lighter, at 127 (yay!) On my two-week honeymoon in Tahiti, I put on
:: 14 pounds (yikes!), 7 pounds of which I was able to take off the
:: first week back.
::
:: Since then (one year and four months) I have been basically taking
:: one step forward and two steps back. During my pre-wedding weight
:: loss, I was pretty much keeping around 30-40 carbs a day. Almost a
:: year ago I cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that.
:: Once every couple of months, either on a business trip or a weekend
:: getaway, I eat whatever I want, gain about 4 pounds, and then over
:: the next few weeks lose about 3 of them, so I've been slowly going
:: backwards. I am now at 142. Even when I go for months at a time
:: staying faithfully at 20 grams or less, I can't lose anything, and
:: often gain.
::
:: I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
:: really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
:: rules, and still.I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is
:: that all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it.
:: I'm ready to chuck it all, but I'm afraid to because if I gain
:: weight staying at 20 carbs a day, what's going to happen if I quit?
:: I don't want to be one of those statistics that gain back everything
:: they lose and then some.
::
:: Can anybody out there give me any advice?
::
:: Thank you in advance,
:: Linda


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Old August 19th, 2004, 09:40 PM
The Queen of Cans and Jars
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Linda wrote:

I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have gotten much support
and information from this group (thank you!) But now I've reached the
end of my rope and need some advice, and I thought some of you might
be able to give me some words of wisdom.

I started low-carbing in May 2002, one year ahead of my wedding, at
the weight of 152 (I am 5'6"). By my wedding date, I was 25 pounds
lighter, at 127 (yay!) On my two-week honeymoon in Tahiti, I put on
14 pounds (yikes!), 7 pounds of which I was able to take off the first
week back.

Since then (one year and four months) I have been basically taking one
step forward and two steps back. During my pre-wedding weight loss, I
was pretty much keeping around 30-40 carbs a day. Almost a year ago I
cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that. Once every
couple of months, either on a business trip or a weekend getaway, I
eat whatever I want, gain about 4 pounds, and then over the next few
weeks lose about 3 of them, so I've been slowly going backwards. I am
now at 142. Even when I go for months at a time staying faithfully at
20 grams or less, I can't lose anything, and often gain.

I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
rules, and still…I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is that
all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it. I'm ready
to chuck it all, but I'm afraid to because if I gain weight staying at
20 carbs a day, what's going to happen if I quit? I don't want to be
one of those statistics that gain back everything they lose and then
some.

Can anybody out there give me any advice?


i'd advise you to pull your head out of your ass. at 142 you're not
overweight by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old August 19th, 2004, 09:40 PM
The Queen of Cans and Jars
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Linda wrote:

I've been lurking here for quite a while, and have gotten much support
and information from this group (thank you!) But now I've reached the
end of my rope and need some advice, and I thought some of you might
be able to give me some words of wisdom.

I started low-carbing in May 2002, one year ahead of my wedding, at
the weight of 152 (I am 5'6"). By my wedding date, I was 25 pounds
lighter, at 127 (yay!) On my two-week honeymoon in Tahiti, I put on
14 pounds (yikes!), 7 pounds of which I was able to take off the first
week back.

Since then (one year and four months) I have been basically taking one
step forward and two steps back. During my pre-wedding weight loss, I
was pretty much keeping around 30-40 carbs a day. Almost a year ago I
cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that. Once every
couple of months, either on a business trip or a weekend getaway, I
eat whatever I want, gain about 4 pounds, and then over the next few
weeks lose about 3 of them, so I've been slowly going backwards. I am
now at 142. Even when I go for months at a time staying faithfully at
20 grams or less, I can't lose anything, and often gain.

I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
rules, and still…I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is that
all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it. I'm ready
to chuck it all, but I'm afraid to because if I gain weight staying at
20 carbs a day, what's going to happen if I quit? I don't want to be
one of those statistics that gain back everything they lose and then
some.

Can anybody out there give me any advice?


i'd advise you to pull your head out of your ass. at 142 you're not
overweight by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old August 19th, 2004, 11:35 PM
Doug Freyburger
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Linda wrote:

Almost a year ago I
cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that.


Have you considered trying Atkins? In the book where it says it
is safe to stay at 20 for as long as six months if you satisfy
a long list if qualifications. I notice at least 3 from the
list that you miss, thus you aren't qualified to stay that low.

The ones I notice a 1) It continues to work at 20. 2) You
have "a lot" to lose (and general experience says he means 100+
to mean a lot). 3) Six months except for folks who are under
direct supervision and still have a lot to lose.

There are several other qualifying questions in that section
and you may well fail even more of them.

Less is not more. Remember that you did better at 30-40 than
you are now doing at 20.

Are you still in ketosis? If yes then move up and find your
CCLL by spending a week out of ketosis, then settling in at
5-10 lower than that. Sure, right now you want to quote the
book that CCLL is about loss rate, but your stall just
conclusively disproved that for you.
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Old August 19th, 2004, 11:35 PM
Doug Freyburger
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Linda wrote:

Almost a year ago I
cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that.


Have you considered trying Atkins? In the book where it says it
is safe to stay at 20 for as long as six months if you satisfy
a long list if qualifications. I notice at least 3 from the
list that you miss, thus you aren't qualified to stay that low.

The ones I notice a 1) It continues to work at 20. 2) You
have "a lot" to lose (and general experience says he means 100+
to mean a lot). 3) Six months except for folks who are under
direct supervision and still have a lot to lose.

There are several other qualifying questions in that section
and you may well fail even more of them.

Less is not more. Remember that you did better at 30-40 than
you are now doing at 20.

Are you still in ketosis? If yes then move up and find your
CCLL by spending a week out of ketosis, then settling in at
5-10 lower than that. Sure, right now you want to quote the
book that CCLL is about loss rate, but your stall just
conclusively disproved that for you.
  #10  
Old August 20th, 2004, 12:45 AM
Concordia
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On 19 Aug 2004 10:13:13 -0700, (Linda) wrote:

I started low-carbing in May 2002, one year ahead of my wedding, at
the weight of 152 (I am 5'6"). By my wedding date, I was 25 pounds
lighter, at 127 (yay!) On my two-week honeymoon in Tahiti, I put on
14 pounds (yikes!), 7 pounds of which I was able to take off the first
week back.

Since then (one year and four months) I have been basically taking one
step forward and two steps back. During my pre-wedding weight loss, I
was pretty much keeping around 30-40 carbs a day. Almost a year ago I
cut back to 20 grams a day, and rarely go over that.


What was the reason you decided to cut back to 20 -- sounds like you
were doing well with 30-40, so why the change? Also, are you or were
you following any particular plan?

Once every
couple of months, either on a business trip or a weekend getaway, I
eat whatever I want, gain about 4 pounds, and then over the next few
weeks lose about 3 of them, so I've been slowly going backwards. I am
now at 142.


That likely puts you at a size 10 and about a 23 BMI. Not model thin,
but not fat either.

It may be a wise move to maintain the 142 for now and work with what
you've got. In fact, it would be one heck of an accomplishment if you
could do just that. Add some serious weight training to your exercise
routine, if you haven't done so already. Work up to it, of course.
Building some significant muscle mass will help *considerably*.

Even when I go for months at a time staying faithfully at
20 grams or less, I can't lose anything, and often gain.


A year is a darned long time to stick to 20 carbs/day, and can
frequently be counterproductive. Try increasing your carbs a bit and
eating a much wider variety and quantity of vegetables, not just
salads.

I feel so frustrated, and deprived and angry at passing up the food I
really want to eat, exercising 3 times a week, following all the
rules, and still…I gained two pounds this week! What the heck is that
all about? I eat meat, cheese, salad, and that's about it.


I'd imagine this draconian eating plan you've had yourself on for
almost a year now is probably not helping in controlling the
occasional weekend binging either. Time to start moving towards
something you can live with long-term.

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