Whey, protein - I'm confused!

Please could someone unconfuse me here? I own some soy flour (which I use
for pancakes) and some soy protein (which becomes smoothies), but I keep
seeing delicious-looking recipes for whey protein. Can I substitute either
of the things I have for this, or is it another kind of beast altogether?

And is it called something else in England?

Thanks,

Nicky.

--
HgBA1C 10.5/6.4/6 Weight 95/82/72
1g Metformin, 75mg Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

: Please could someone unconfuse me here? I own some soy flour (which I use
: for pancakes) and some soy protein (which becomes smoothies), but I keep
: seeing delicious-looking recipes for whey protein. Can I substitute either
: of the things I have for this, or is it another kind of beast altogether?
:
: And is it called something else in England?
:
: Thanks,
:
: Nicky.


Nicky, you COULD look this up in a dictionary. You would find soy flour is
from the soy bean whereas whey is a milk product. You need to do some
research.

Pat in TX

But he also mentioned soy protein which is more processed than soy flour.
From various recipes I have seen I would guess that whey, soy or egg protein
powder would be pretty much exchangeable. I don't know if soy protein has
as pronounced a flavor as soy flour, some people are turned off by it. I
don't think he could look it up in a dictionary, these protein extracts are
much more processed than flours.

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Pat stated
|| Please could someone unconfuse me here? I own some soy flour (which
|| I use for pancakes) and some soy protein (which becomes smoothies),
|| but I keep seeing delicious-looking recipes for whey protein. Can I
|| substitute either of the things I have for this, or is it another
|| kind of beast altogether?
||
|| And is it called something else in England?
||
|| Thanks,
||
|| Nicky.
|
|
| Nicky, you COULD look this up in a dictionary. You would find soy
| flour is from the soy bean whereas whey is a milk product. You need
| to do some research.
|
| Pat in TX

"FOB" : But he also mentioned soy protein which is more processed than soy
flour.
: From various recipes I have seen I would guess that whey, soy or egg
protein
: powder would be pretty much exchangeable. I don't know if soy protein has
: as pronounced a flavor as soy flour, some people are turned off by it. I
: don't think he could look it up in a dictionary, these protein extracts
are
: much more processed than flours.

He could sure look it up on the Internet, though.

Pat in TX

"FOB" : But he also mentioned soy protein which is more processed than soy
flour.
: From various recipes I have seen I would guess that whey, soy or egg
protein
: powder would be pretty much exchangeable. I don't know if soy protein has
: as pronounced a flavor as soy flour, some people are turned off by it. I
: don't think he could look it up in a dictionary, these protein extracts
are
: much more processed than flours.

He could sure look it up on the Internet, though.

Pat in TX

Things like this are very confusing, especially when people are from
different countries. That's what this group is for! (Just ignore rude
people, anyone can wander into usenet.)

Whey is from milk. It is the protein part, with carbs and fat (cream)
removed. Some whey 'supplements' are pure whey, 'whey protein isolate'. I
doubt if this could be used as a flour substitute, but it is very good for
drinks. It has almost no flavor. Adding chocolate powder and cream makes it
a good no-carb hot chocolate. It's a very conveneient way to get ones
morning protein.

Other 'whey protein powders' may include various other ingredients, some of
them carbs. One poster here, Jenny, has a site with some recipies,
including pancakes made with a 'protein powder' that includes several
ingredients; I think its brand is 'Precision Engineered'.

Soy products are quite different in origin, they are from soybeans. Some of
them may be used in the same way as whey products.


On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 21:02:17 +0000 (UTC), Nicky wrote:

Please could someone unconfuse me here? I own some soy flour (which I use
for pancakes) and some soy protein (which becomes smoothies), but I keep
seeing delicious-looking recipes for whey protein. Can I substitute
either
of the things I have for this, or is it another kind of beast altogether?

Whey is different in origin, but in some recipies the soy products might
work.


And is it called something else in England?

I thought 'whey' was an old English term, for one of the parts that milk
seprates into. Of course the whey we buy as supplements is dried.

'Curds and whey'? I think in yogurt the thin bitter part is the whey.


Good luck,
Skinny

"FOB" wrote in message
om...
But he also mentioned soy protein which is more processed than soy flour.
From various recipes I have seen I would guess that whey, soy or egg
protein
powder would be pretty much exchangeable. I don't know if soy protein has
as pronounced a flavor as soy flour, some people are turned off by it. I
don't think he could look it up in a dictionary, these protein extracts
are
much more processed than flours.

Thanks, FOB. I'll try experimenting. Soy protein is easy to buy here, but
I've never seen whey.

Nicky
(female : )


--
HgBA1C 10.5/6.4/6 Weight 95/82/72
1g Metformin, 75mg Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

"Skinny" wrote in message
...
Things like this are very confusing, especially when people are from
different countries. That's what this group is for! (Just ignore rude
people, anyone can wander into usenet.)

Thanks, Skinny : )


Whey is from milk. It is the protein part, with carbs and fat (cream)
removed. Some whey 'supplements' are pure whey, 'whey protein isolate'. I
doubt if this could be used as a flour substitute, but it is very good for
drinks. It has almost no flavor. Adding chocolate powder and cream makes
it
a good no-carb hot chocolate. It's a very conveneient way to get ones
morning protein.

Mmm, yes, that's what I want - or at least something that doesn't mess up my
morning bgs, or interfere with thyroxine absorption - which I guess whey
might do?

I'm just going to have to keep looking until I find a container of the
stuff, so I can read the label!

Nicky.

--
HgBA1C 10.5/6.4/6 Weight 95/82/72
1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

The "pure whey protein isolate" was kind of hard to find.
I got some Whey Protein Isolate made by Bioplex Nutrition. I found it in a
local store, but their website is www.bioplexnutrition.com

The label on my Bioplex jar (bought locally) lists only one ingredient:
"Pure microfiltered whey protein isolate". I didn't find a listing at their
site that matched it.

It mixes pretty easy into plain water, then I can add whatever. (Sometimes
with too much powder and too little liquid, things turn into Elmer's
Glue.... :-) Or it seems ok when mixing, then turns into pudding in the
microwave. But with enough water, no problem. 3 scoops (20 grams protein
each) mixes fine with one up of water (8 oz). I make 3 or 4 cups of morning
chocolate out of that, thinning it further with water.

Once I tried using chai spices (rough ground powders) instead of chocolate
(cinnamon, cardamon, cloves, blk pepper, nutmeg, etc). And added cream.
This made a drink so rich I wasn't hungry for hours!




On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 20:17:44 +0000 (UTC), Nicky wrote:
/snip/


It has almost no flavor. Adding chocolate powder and cream makes
it
a good no-carb hot chocolate. It's a very conveneient way to get ones
morning protein.

Mmm, yes, that's what I want - or at least something that doesn't mess up
my
morning bgs, or interfere with thyroxine absorption - which I guess whey
might do?


BG's vary, but I expect this stuff is 100% protein. Never heard of thyrox
whatsis.


Skinny

"Nicky" wrote in message ...
Please could someone unconfuse me here? I own some soy flour (which I use
for pancakes) and some soy protein (which becomes smoothies), but I keep
seeing delicious-looking recipes for whey protein. Can I substitute either
of the things I have for this, or is it another kind of beast altogether?

And is it called something else in England?

Thanks,

Nicky.


Curds and Whey: the protein fractions of milk. Casein is the "curds."
Whey is popular amoung athletes. Medical studies have shown benefits
for the immune system, improved body composition (fat vs. muscle) from
whey ingestion, etc.