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29/01/2007 - Higher intake of fats is associated with lower body
weight, says new research from Sweden that offers an alternative side
to the role of fat intake in the rise of obesity.

The research also correlated higher BMI with higher sugar intake.
Researcher Malin Haglund Garemo, a dietician from Gothenburg
University in Sweden, said that more studies are planned to
investigate if obesity was being caused by an early increase in
insulin, and not fat.

"Such results would go against the common perception that fat causes
increased insulin production as a result of insulin resistance," she
said.

The rate of childhood obesity is set to double by the end of the
decade, according to recent forecasts by the International Obesity
Task Force (IOTF). The alarming figures on childhood obesity estimate
that by 2010 almost 287 million kids will be obese, and the overall
obese population could rise to 700 million by 2015.

Garemos dissertation study focussed on 182 healthy four-year-olds in
Gothenburg and examined eating habits and lifestyles. Twenty per cent
of the children were classified as being overweight based on their
body mass index (BMI greater than 25 kg per sq. m and less than 30 kg
sq. m), and two per cent were obese (BMI greater than 3030 kg sq. m).

"Most of the children in our study come from good socioeconomic
backgrounds. If the study had reflected all four-year-olds in Sweden,
more children would probably have been overweight," said Haglund
Garemo.

Diets, socio-economic, lifestyle and health questionnaires were
completed by the parents of the children, and analysis of the
children's body build showed that weight increases was a result of the
body storing more fat, but those who ate the most fat were not the
ones who weighed most. Instead, children who ate less fat had higher
BMIs, reports Haglund Garemo.

Startlingly, a fourth of all energy requirements of the children was
coming from "junk food" (candy, ice cream, cookies, and sweet
beverages), despite the overall energy intakes being in accordance
with Nordic nutrition recommendations (NNR 2004).

"Most children had higher intake of saturated fat and sucrose than NNR
2004, while the intake of polyunsaturated fat - especially omega-3
fatty acids, vitamin D and iron were lower than recommended in most
children," wrote Haglund Garemo.

"Every third child in the study ate far too little unsaturated fat,
above all too little omega-3. These children had significantly higher
body weight. This supports other studies that show that obese children
have shortages of omega-3," she said.

Haglund Garemo also reported that many of the four-year old girls in
the study were already displaying signs of the metabolic syndrome, a
condition characterised by central obesity, hypertension, and
disturbed glucose and insulin metabolism. The syndrome has been linked
to increased risks of both type 2 diabetes and CVD.

Indeed, the research indicated that children with the highest insulin
levels gained the most weight since birth.

"Risk factors for the metabolic syndrome can be identified already in
healthy 4-year olds, especially in girls," she said.

The Swedish Research Council published the research findings.

***

The "Swedish Paradox"?

TC

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Here are the vital factors found in the research, it is the now familiar
good vs. bad fat observation. Polyunsaturated fats from fish and plant
sources not amount of fat is the key point. The subject line is
misleading, pure spin to be frank. The entire point can be found in the
title of the article as the first line below in these parts of the
article:

Not Enough Of The Right Fats Can Make Children Overweight


The key is in the amount of unsaturated fat that a child consumes and
omega-3 in particular. Omega-3 is found in fatty fish and vegetables.


A third of the children in the group were not eating enough
unsaturated fat, and by far the greatest deficiency was the level of
omega-3 fat in their diet, according to lead researcher and Dietician
Malin Haglund Garemo.


Other studies have also suggested a link between lack of omega-3

and=20
obesity, she said.

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On Jan 29, 5:01 pm, wrote:
Here are the vital factors found in the research, it is the now familiar
good vs. bad fat observation. Polyunsaturated fats from fish and plant
sources not amount of fat is the key point. The subject line is
misleading, pure spin to be frank. The entire point can be found in the
title of the article as the first line below in these parts of the
article:


Polyunsat fat is found in pork, chicken and other meats too.

Do you have a problem with the concept that not all fats are bad and
not all animal fats are bad? And do you have a problem wuth the idea
that animal sourced foods are actually healthy? Or do you hold the
same ideas as Ancel Keyes?

Where exactly do YOU sit on the animal fats debate?

TC






Not Enough Of The Right Fats Can Make Children Overweight
The key is in the amount of unsaturated fat that a child consumes and
omega-3 in particular. Omega-3 is found in fatty fish and vegetables.


A third of the children in the group were not eating enough
unsaturated fat, and by far the greatest deficiency was the level of
omega-3 fat in their diet, according to lead researcher and Dietician
Malin Haglund Garemo.


Other studies have also suggested a link between lack of omega-3

and=20
obesity, she said.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


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Old January 30th, 2007, 03:12 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Polyunsat fat is found in pork, chicken and other meats too."

Yes, but far less omega3 sourced fish and plant fats, which was the
finding of the article. Olive oil has the most monounsaturated fat and
has other health things going for it also.

"Do you have a problem with the concept that not all fats are bad and
not all animal fats are bad? And do you have a problem wuth the idea
that animal sourced foods are actually healthy? Or do you hold the same
ideas as Ancel Keyes?"

No problem at all, I agree with keyes that grape nuts is a tasty cerial.
Moderation is always the best approach for all things unless such as in
diabetes one must limit some foods, both carbs and saturated fats in my
view based on research. Some research suggests that diabetes is as much
a disorder of fat metabolisim and that saturated fats have a higher risk
attached.

"Where exactly do YOU sit on the animal fats debate?"

As above.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 03:17 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:14:47 -0500, wrote:



On Jan 29, 5:01 pm, wrote:
Here are the vital factors found in the research, it is the now familiar
good vs. bad fat observation. Polyunsaturated fats from fish and plant
sources not amount of fat is the key point. The subject line is
misleading, pure spin to be frank. The entire point can be found in the
title of the article as the first line below in these parts of the
article:


Polyunsat fat is found in pork, chicken and other meats too.

Do you have a problem with the concept that not all fats are bad and
not all animal fats are bad? And do you have a problem wuth the idea
that animal sourced foods are actually healthy? Or do you hold the
same ideas as Ancel Keyes?

Where exactly do YOU sit on the animal fats debate?

TC

And why did they ignore the fact that the kids who had the lowest amount
of "good fats" also had the highest amount of sugar/junk food
consumption. Instead of their conclusion being that not enough "good
fats" is bad, why couldn't it be that too much sugar is bad? Why not
attack the sugar content of the diet instead of the fat content? It
couldn't be that attacking sugar content means nothing while attacking fat
content means more dollars for research?


--
Bob in CT
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Old January 30th, 2007, 04:05 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Jan 30, 9:17 am, "Bob in CT" wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:14:47 -0500, wrote:

On Jan 29, 5:01 pm, wrote:
Here are the vital factors found in the research, it is the now familiar
good vs. bad fat observation. Polyunsaturated fats from fish and plant
sources not amount of fat is the key point. The subject line is
misleading, pure spin to be frank. The entire point can be found in the
title of the article as the first line below in these parts of the
article:


Polyunsat fat is found in pork, chicken and other meats too.


Do you have a problem with the concept that not all fats are bad and
not all animal fats are bad? And do you have a problem wuth the idea
that animal sourced foods are actually healthy? Or do you hold the
same ideas as Ancel Keyes?


Where exactly do YOU sit on the animal fats debate?


TCAnd why did they ignore the fact that the kids who had the lowest amount

of "good fats" also had the highest amount of sugar/junk food
consumption. Instead of their conclusion being that not enough "good
fats" is bad, why couldn't it be that too much sugar is bad? Why not
attack the sugar content of the diet instead of the fat content? It
couldn't be that attacking sugar content means nothing while attacking fat
content means more dollars for research?

--
Bob in CT- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


Agree with you Bob.

From the report:


"but those who ate the most fat were not the
ones who weighed most. Instead, children who ate less fat had higher
BMIs, reports Haglund Garemo"

The above is the central fact that stands conventional wisdom on it's
head. You can further refine it, and say healthy fats are better than
others, which few would argue with. However, that isn't going to do
much good, when the accepted wisdom is still that dietary fat is what
causes obesity and the answer is more low fat food.


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Old January 30th, 2007, 10:03 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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wrote:
:: On Jan 30, 9:17 am, "Bob in CT" wrote:
::: On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:14:47 -0500, wrote:
:::
:::: On Jan 29, 5:01 pm, wrote:
::::: Here are the vital factors found in the research, it is the now
::::: familiar good vs. bad fat observation. Polyunsaturated fats from
::::: fish and plant sources not amount of fat is the key point. The
::::: subject line is misleading, pure spin to be frank. The entire
::::: point can be found in the title of the article as the first line
::::: below in these parts of the article:
:::
:::: Polyunsat fat is found in pork, chicken and other meats too.
:::
:::: Do you have a problem with the concept that not all fats are bad
:::: and
:::: not all animal fats are bad? And do you have a problem wuth the
:::: idea
:::: that animal sourced foods are actually healthy? Or do you hold the
:::: same ideas as Ancel Keyes?
:::
:::: Where exactly do YOU sit on the animal fats debate?
:::
:::: TCAnd why did they ignore the fact that the kids who had the
:::: lowest amount
::: of "good fats" also had the highest amount of sugar/junk food
::: consumption. Instead of their conclusion being that not enough
::: "good fats" is bad, why couldn't it be that too much sugar is bad?
::: Why not attack the sugar content of the diet instead of the fat
::: content? It couldn't be that attacking sugar content means nothing
::: while attacking fat content means more dollars for research?
:::
::: --
::: Bob in CT- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
::
:: Agree with you Bob.
::
::: From the report:
::
:: "but those who ate the most fat were not the
:: ones who weighed most. Instead, children who ate less fat had higher
:: BMIs, reports Haglund Garemo"
::
:: The above is the central fact that stands conventional wisdom on it's
:: head. You can further refine it, and say healthy fats are better
:: than others, which few would argue with. However, that isn't
:: going to do much good, when the accepted wisdom is still that
:: dietary fat is what causes obesity and the answer is more low fat
:: food.

The only unhealthy fat that I know about is the trans-fat.


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"I find it hard to believe that diabetes is a disorder of fat
metaboliusm and that sat fats relate to a higher risk in the absence of
carbs. Thus, I'm dubious of such research."

The research is related to what risk factors are associated with
metabolic disorder and diabetes. The fat link comes in with what
happens to beta cells and other cells related to level of insulin
resistance. Obviously it is then that glucose metabolism enters the
picture. As in most things biological there is no one straight line set
of actions but an interaction and feedback of variables that occurs.
Both fat and glucose are involved and act upon the actions of each
other.

Here is one example abstract illustrating this:


[_] 1: Med Sci Monit. 2006 Dec 18;13(1):RA12-17 [Epub ahead of print]

High fat diet modulation of glucose sensing in the beta-cell.


Type 2 diabetes is primarily associated with beta-cell
failure,
insulin resistance and elevated hepatic glucose production.
The
islet beta-cell is specialized for the synthesis, storage
and
secretion of insulin. Beta-cell failure is characterized by
the
inability of the beta-cell to secrete sufficient insulin in
response to glucose, which ultimately results in
hyperglycemia-
the clinical hallmark of Type 2 diabetes. Impairment in
glucose
sensing contributes to beta-cell dysfunction. The
facilitative
glucose transporter, GLUT-2, and glucose phosphorylating
enzyme, glucokinase, are key for glucose sensing of the
pancreatic beta-cell, the initial event in the pathway for
glucose-stimulated insulin secretion. There is an increase
in
dietary fat intake, particularly saturated fat, in both the
developing and Westernized world, which predisposes
individuals
to become obese and to potentially develop insulin
resistance,
beta-cell dysfunction and Type 2 diabetes. A high fat diet
is
known to reduce both GLUT-2 and glucokinase expression
thereby
impairing glucose-stimulated insulin secretion.
Furthermore, a
high fat diet and specific free fatty acids, induces
oxidative
stress and apoptosis which reduces beta-cell mass and
compromises beta-cell function. Glucose sensing is the
initial
event of glucose-stimulated insulin secretion therefore it
is
imperative to maintain adequate expression levels of GLUT-2
and
GK for ensuring normal beta-cell function. The development
of
pharmaceutical agents that improve glucose-stimulated
insulin
secretion may replenish expression of these glucose sensing
genes after their attenuation by high fat feeding.

PMID: 17179917 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] Related Links

+ Dissociated insulinotropic sensitivity to glucose and
carbachol in high-fat diet-induced insulin resistance in
C57BL/6J mice. [Metabolism. 1997] PMID: 9005977
+ Altered beta-cell distribution of pdx-1 and GLUT-2 after a
short-term challenge with a high-fat diet in C57BL/6J mice.
[Diabetes. 2002] PMID: 11815473
+ Inhibition of glucagon secretion. [Adv Pharmacol. 2005]
PMID: 16492545
+ Diabetogenic impact of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids on
pancreatic beta-cell function and the regulation of
endogenous glucose production. [Endocrinology. 2003]

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Old January 31st, 2007, 02:57 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On 30 Jan 2007 21:58:37 GMT, wrote:

"I find it hard to believe that diabetes is a disorder of fat
metaboliusm and that sat fats relate to a higher risk in the absence of
carbs. Thus, I'm dubious of such research."

The research is related to what risk factors are associated with
metabolic disorder and diabetes. The fat link comes in with what
happens to beta cells and other cells related to level of insulin
resistance. Obviously it is then that glucose metabolism enters the
picture. As in most things biological there is no one straight line set
of actions but an interaction and feedback of variables that occurs.
Both fat and glucose are involved and act upon the actions of each
other.

Here is one example abstract illustrating this:


[_] 1: Med Sci Monit. 2006 Dec 18;13(1):RA12-17 [Epub ahead of print]

High fat diet modulation of glucose sensing in the beta-cell.


Type 2 diabetes is primarily associated with beta-cell
failure,
insulin resistance and elevated hepatic glucose production.
The
islet beta-cell is specialized for the synthesis, storage
and
secretion of insulin. Beta-cell failure is characterized by
the
inability of the beta-cell to secrete sufficient insulin in
response to glucose, which ultimately results in
hyperglycemia-
the clinical hallmark of Type 2 diabetes. Impairment in
glucose
sensing contributes to beta-cell dysfunction. The
facilitative
glucose transporter, GLUT-2, and glucose phosphorylating
enzyme, glucokinase, are key for glucose sensing of the
pancreatic beta-cell, the initial event in the pathway for
glucose-stimulated insulin secretion. There is an increase
in
dietary fat intake, particularly saturated fat, in both the
developing and Westernized world, which predisposes
individuals
to become obese and to potentially develop insulin
resistance,
beta-cell dysfunction and Type 2 diabetes. A high fat diet
is
known to reduce both GLUT-2 and glucokinase expression
thereby
impairing glucose-stimulated insulin secretion.
Furthermore, a
high fat diet and specific free fatty acids, induces
oxidative
stress and apoptosis which reduces beta-cell mass and
compromises beta-cell function. Glucose sensing is the
initial
event of glucose-stimulated insulin secretion therefore it
is
imperative to maintain adequate expression levels of GLUT-2
and
GK for ensuring normal beta-cell function. The development
of
pharmaceutical agents that improve glucose-stimulated
insulin
secretion may replenish expression of these glucose sensing
genes after their attenuation by high fat feeding.

PMID: 17179917 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] Related Links

+ Dissociated insulinotropic sensitivity to glucose and
carbachol in high-fat diet-induced insulin resistance in
C57BL/6J mice. [Metabolism. 1997] PMID: 9005977
+ Altered beta-cell distribution of pdx-1 and GLUT-2 after a
short-term challenge with a high-fat diet in C57BL/6J mice.
[Diabetes. 2002] PMID: 11815473
+ Inhibition of glucagon secretion. [Adv Pharmacol. 2005]
PMID: 16492545
+ Diabetogenic impact of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids on
pancreatic beta-cell function and the regulation of
endogenous glucose production. [Endocrinology. 2003]


You know, until you figure out how to quote correctly and do a better
job of pasting in information, I'm not going to bother reading your
posts any more.

Jo Anne
 




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