You guys are awesome!

I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success, not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either reporting a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but rather a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us, but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

Yes we are and so are you :-)

Thanks

- Ralph

Willow Herself wrote:
I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success, not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either reporting a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but rather a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us, but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

Thanks for your post Willow.

Considering that you are a leader, I had personally hoped to hear more from
you, but I also understand that you are very busy.

Your posting is really welcomed. Thanks,

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-280.8lbs
Loss to date=78.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Willow Herself" wrote in
message news I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success, not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either reporting a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but rather a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us, but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

what he said, Lee
Uncle Bonzi wrote in message
oups.com...
Yes we are and so are you :-)

Thanks

- Ralph

Willow Herself wrote:
I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success,
not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either
reporting a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan
to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure
this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but
rather a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us,
but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

I try very hard to be a "member" here, not a leader. There's 2 reasons for
this...

1- The main reason is that I don't want to be "the leader" in here.. I do
that enough already. The challenge of being a leader, is that you have to
"know better" all the time. You're there to help people, and your own
struggles, issues, victories matters only in how it will help your members.
There's no place for your own plan as a leader cause it's all about the
members.

Staff are members too, and it's hard to go to a meeting as a member for me
since I do a lot of fills for other leaders. Every time I walk in a group in
my area, they see the leader, not the girl who's trying to keep a grip on
her weight... ;o)

2- WW is a business, I know there are a lot of ppls doing the program
without going to meetings, and as an employee, I owe loyalty to my
employers. WW staff aren't very well paid, and any penny lost by the company
because people steal the program, is cut from the staff.. the CEO isn't
gonna cut HER salary for any loss, instead, mileage isn't being paid anymore
to the little dummy at the bottom of the line (that's us, leaders and
receptionists).

I'm not going to give "leader support" for free online, because I feel like
it's punishing those work for WW full time and depend on it for survival and
benefits. I work part time now, and live off my DH salary... but I have lots
of my friends who are trying to live on WW alone.. believe me.. it's not
easy.

All of this said, I'll help if I can, and have gone a little farther than I
probably should with members here, but I'm here as a MEMBER, not a leader.

Will~


"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your post Willow.

Considering that you are a leader, I had personally hoped to hear more
from
you, but I also understand that you are very busy.

Your posting is really welcomed. Thanks,

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-280.8lbs
Loss to date=78.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Willow Herself" wrote in
message news I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success,
not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either reporting
a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but rather
a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us, but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

;o)

"Stormmee" wrote in message
...
what he said, Lee
Uncle Bonzi wrote in message
oups.com...
Yes we are and so are you :-)

Thanks

- Ralph

Willow Herself wrote:
I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success,
not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either
reporting a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan
to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure
this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but
rather a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us,
but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

Amen...

On Oct 17, 10:58 am, "Willow Herself"
wrote:
I try very hard to be a "member" here, not a leader. There's 2 reasons for
this...

1- The main reason is that I don't want to be "the leader" in here.. I do
that enough already. The challenge of being a leader, is that you have to
"know better" all the time. You're there to help people, and your own
struggles, issues, victories matters only in how it will help your members.
There's no place for your own plan as a leader cause it's all about the
members.

Staff are members too, and it's hard to go to a meeting as a member for me
since I do a lot of fills for other leaders. Every time I walk in a group in
my area, they see the leader, not the girl who's trying to keep a grip on
her weight... ;o)

2- WW is a business, I know there are a lot of ppls doing the program
without going to meetings, and as an employee, I owe loyalty to my
employers. WW staff aren't very well paid, and any penny lost by the company
because people steal the program, is cut from the staff.. the CEO isn't
gonna cut HER salary for any loss, instead, mileage isn't being paid anymore
to the little dummy at the bottom of the line (that's us, leaders and
receptionists).

I'm not going to give "leader support" for free online, because I feel like
it's punishing those work for WW full time and depend on it for survival and
benefits. I work part time now, and live off my DH salary... but I have lots
of my friends who are trying to live on WW alone.. believe me.. it's not
easy.

All of this said, I'll help if I can, and have gone a little farther than I
probably should with members here, but I'm here as a MEMBER, not a leader.

Will~

"Eddie-Type2" wrote in .net...

Thanks for your post Willow.

Considering that you are a leader, I had personally hoped to hear more
from
you, but I also understand that you are very busy.

Your posting is really welcomed. Thanks,

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-280.8lbs
Loss to date=78.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Willow Herself" wrote in
messagenews I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success,
not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either reporting
a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but rather
a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us, but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

Thanks for understanding.. means a lot to me!

Will~

"Uncle Bonzi" wrote in message
oups.com...
Amen...

On Oct 17, 10:58 am, "Willow Herself"
wrote:
I try very hard to be a "member" here, not a leader. There's 2 reasons
for
this...

1- The main reason is that I don't want to be "the leader" in here.. I
do
that enough already. The challenge of being a leader, is that you have to
"know better" all the time. You're there to help people, and your own
struggles, issues, victories matters only in how it will help your
members.
There's no place for your own plan as a leader cause it's all about the
members.

Staff are members too, and it's hard to go to a meeting as a member for
me
since I do a lot of fills for other leaders. Every time I walk in a group
in
my area, they see the leader, not the girl who's trying to keep a grip on
her weight... ;o)

2- WW is a business, I know there are a lot of ppls doing the program
without going to meetings, and as an employee, I owe loyalty to my
employers. WW staff aren't very well paid, and any penny lost by the
company
because people steal the program, is cut from the staff.. the CEO isn't
gonna cut HER salary for any loss, instead, mileage isn't being paid
anymore
to the little dummy at the bottom of the line (that's us, leaders and
receptionists).

I'm not going to give "leader support" for free online, because I feel
like
it's punishing those work for WW full time and depend on it for survival
and
benefits. I work part time now, and live off my DH salary... but I have
lots
of my friends who are trying to live on WW alone.. believe me.. it's not
easy.

All of this said, I'll help if I can, and have gone a little farther than
I
probably should with members here, but I'm here as a MEMBER, not a
leader.

Will~

"Eddie-Type2" wrote in
.net...

Thanks for your post Willow.

Considering that you are a leader, I had personally hoped to hear more
from
you, but I also understand that you are very busy.

Your posting is really welcomed. Thanks,

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-280.8lbs
Loss to date=78.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Willow Herself" wrote in
messagenews I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success,
not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either
reporting
a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan
to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure
this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but
rather
a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us,
but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

I fully agree with the position you take Willow, but I think you
misunderstood my comments.

I'm not trying to sound like I'm whining, but I guess I'm just a little
disappointed that you find time to respond to others posting in here, but
you seem not to respond to any of mine. It's a trend I've noticed for a
long time.

I know I can't (or shouldn't, or won't) beg for support, but I just feel
that you continually don't post any support or comments to any of my
postings.

It's nothing personal, so please don't take any offense...........it's just
something that I've noticed since I've been in this group.

I just thought that, as a leader outside of this group, you might have been
the one person that "might" go out of their way to give most in this group
(if not all) the support we are all looking for. I feel a little left out -
but hey, maybe I've offended you in some way in the past and don't realize
it?

As I said, please don't take any offense to my comments..........I know that
no one in here is obligated to post or reply to every single post, but most
of us do..........

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-280.8lbs
Loss to date=78.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Willow Herself" wrote in
message . net...
I try very hard to be a "member" here, not a leader. There's 2 reasons for
this...

1- The main reason is that I don't want to be "the leader" in here.. I do
that enough already. The challenge of being a leader, is that you have to
"know better" all the time. You're there to help people, and your own
struggles, issues, victories matters only in how it will help your members.
There's no place for your own plan as a leader cause it's all about the
members.

Staff are members too, and it's hard to go to a meeting as a member for me
since I do a lot of fills for other leaders. Every time I walk in a group in
my area, they see the leader, not the girl who's trying to keep a grip on
her weight... ;o)

2- WW is a business, I know there are a lot of ppls doing the program
without going to meetings, and as an employee, I owe loyalty to my
employers. WW staff aren't very well paid, and any penny lost by the company
because people steal the program, is cut from the staff.. the CEO isn't
gonna cut HER salary for any loss, instead, mileage isn't being paid anymore
to the little dummy at the bottom of the line (that's us, leaders and
receptionists).

I'm not going to give "leader support" for free online, because I feel like
it's punishing those work for WW full time and depend on it for survival and
benefits. I work part time now, and live off my DH salary... but I have lots
of my friends who are trying to live on WW alone.. believe me.. it's not
easy.

All of this said, I'll help if I can, and have gone a little farther than I
probably should with members here, but I'm here as a MEMBER, not a leader.

Will~


"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your post Willow.

Considering that you are a leader, I had personally hoped to hear more
from
you, but I also understand that you are very busy.

Your posting is really welcomed. Thanks,

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-280.8lbs
Loss to date=78.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs

"Willow Herself" wrote in
message news I've been catching up reading posts... and though I don't have time to
respond to everything, I wanted to point something out.

This group is a heck of a great place to be. I'm reading "reports" from
pretty much everybody, and I am soooo impressed by everybody's success,
not
only in weight loss, but in... attitude? mentality?

I'm not sure how to explain it, but everybody posting is either reporting
a
loss, a controlled gain, or a "I got out of control, but here's my plan to
get back on track". The very few post about "not being able to figure this
out just now" aren't whinning rant about how unfair life is... but rather
a
"Gee I still need to work on this, any idea anybody?"

Everybody is solution oriented, well aware that it's up to each of us, but
that we can support and help each others out..

I love this place.. just thought I'd let you know!

Will~

I have never deliberately avoided answering to you. I don't answer to more
than about 5% of what I read, and you'll notice that I'll post a storm for a
few hours.. and then disapear for days... I also "mark as read" a lot since
there's no way I could read everything.. I have more time now, but I've been
working up to 16 meetings a week, scheduled 2:30h per meeting.. and more (as
you probably know, most WW staff work a lot more than the scheduled time)..

Our schedule probably just don't fit.. I've read and enjoyed many of your
posts.

My previous explanation's goal was to avoid exactly this, I feel no
responsability here "as a leader" to support more, to go out of my eay to
help everybody... It isn't very fair, I think, to expect that of me. I try
to support as much as I can, and yes, there are members here that I talk to
more than others, Lee for exemple, simply because I feel closer to them. I
also tend to connect better to "maintainers" who have made goal (where's
Lesanne???) because they're in the same situation I am. I just relate
better to them.

It's the same way that in a meeting room, if you're a member (not staff)
you'll talk to some people more, some less, and some you just didn't happen
to.. not for any other reasons that it "didn't happen". Doesn't mean you
don't like them, or that you are avoiding them, just that it hasn't
happened..

Don't worry, I'm a big mouth, if I've got anything against you, I'll let you
know.. heheh

Will~


"Eddie-Type2" wrote in message
...
I fully agree with the position you take Willow, but I think you
misunderstood my comments.

I'm not trying to sound like I'm whining, but I guess I'm just a little
disappointed that you find time to respond to others posting in here, but
you seem not to respond to any of mine. It's a trend I've noticed for a
long time.

I know I can't (or shouldn't, or won't) beg for support, but I just feel
that you continually don't post any support or comments to any of my
postings.

It's nothing personal, so please don't take any offense...........it's
just
something that I've noticed since I've been in this group.

I just thought that, as a leader outside of this group, you might have
been
the one person that "might" go out of their way to give most in this group
(if not all) the support we are all looking for. I feel a little left
out -
but hey, maybe I've offended you in some way in the past and don't realize
it?

As I said, please don't take any offense to my comments..........I know
that
no one in here is obligated to post or reply to every single post, but
most
of us do..........

Eddie
Weight June05-359.0lbs
Current Weight-280.8lbs
Loss to date=78.2lbs
Goal Weight-180.0lbs