Zero points food

Ah yeah, that's what I have. I was just thinking that maybe cottage cheese
would be healthier. - But then 2 points for a tub of soft cheese doesn't
sound that much (unless you buy smaller tubs than me!)... Yup, methinks rice
cakes are the way to go. I especially like the ones with sesame seeds in -
they add an extra niceness to the flavour.

Su



"krys" wrote in message
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dunno - not something I eat a lot of - i just work it out when I do buy
it.
i tend to top my rice cakes with Sainsbury's soft cheese - it's like
philadelphia - but is 2 points for the tub!!! I use 3 rice cakes, 1/2 pt
of
the cheese, and 1/2pt worth of wafer ham. Add a bit of mustard, marmite,
whatever.....and voila - a nice filling snack for 2 points

--
krys

UK 157/128.4/126
Started March 1st 2001
GOAL August 16th 2001
...going down?...

"Su" wrote in message
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Yeah rice cakes are ace! I like them with that soft cheese stuff and
cucumber... but I know that's probably a lot of points? How many points
is
cottage cheese?

Su

Also, the Mr Frosty will distract you from eating because it's so much fun
anyways!


"Geoff" wrote in message
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"Su" wrote in message
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Maybe you should get a Mr. Frosty, and then you could eat ice slush when
you
have the munchies. They can't be many calories eh?

Is that the kids ice lolly maker thing?

"Anny Middon" wrote in message
y.com...
I've given some thought to this, Geoff, and I now believe that perhaps
Weight Watchers isn't the right diet for you. It's the right plan for
those
of us here, but I firmly beleive there is no plan that's right for
everyone.
And there are three strikes against it for you:

1. You don't want to go to meetings.

What have meetings got to do with the points method though? I'm not with WW,
I'm using their points method because having a target to work towards is a
good idea.

2. You're not satisfied with the amount of food you can eat for your
point
target.

Of course I'm not satisfied-Who is? If I was satisfied with the amount of
food, I wouldn't be fat in the first place.

3. You're unwilling or unable to eat nearly all vegetables and fruits.

I can and do eat some fruits but I do not like vegetables and I can't help
that.

Anny, I'm doing the best I can and this is the only way I've found that
gives me any hope at all. Then I read someone tell me that it isn't the
right diet for me and it makes me feel like crying, it really does. I've
just come back from my daily walk which leaves me in one hell of a state
that most people here will never comprehend, and I read a post telling me
that I'm not doing the right thing. I am in a real state with my weight and
finally had the guts to try something that's really hard for me, and I AM
managing, so why are people trying to put me off? You'll probably say that
you aren't trying to put me off, but it really does come across that way.

This one is a double-whammy since it means that you can't make your food
intake more satisfying by eating zero-point veggies, and you can't
regularly
meet the goal of 5 servings of fruit and vegetables per day.

I didn't know there was such a goal to be honest. I can't do anything about
that anyway.

As an aside I'll ask: Have you considered doing Atkins or another
low-carb
approach?

I've heard too many bad things about that. It's also too restrictive.

My main advice to you though is this: You've said that you're willing to
spend some money if necessary. In that case, I think you should consult
with a professional dietician to get a diet plan that's right for you.

What would a dietition tell me to do? He/she would list a load of things to
eat, which would include 90% of things that I do not like. I don't want or
need to be patronised by a dietition telling me I need to lose weight, to
eat vegetables, to get exercise. I am very well aware of all that and I'm
just doing my best with these points.

Periodic revisits with the dietician will help you keep on track and allow
for adjustment to your diet as needed.

You make it sound so simple.

Geoff.

"Su" wrote in message
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Also, the Mr Frosty will distract you from eating because it's so much fun
anyways!

Hehe. I think I'll stick to ice cube munching.

IMNHO, WW seems to be one of the most flexible, adaptable plans around. Just
look at the wide variety of people who post here, and there are millions
more who don't!

As someone else suggested earlier in this thread, starting one step at a
time is a good way to get going. You've already done the following:
Realized you want to make a change (this is probably the biggest, hardest
steps)
Looked at your food intake, both calorie-wise and nutrition-wise
You posted here, seeking information
You took a walk today.
I'm sure there are more things you've done that you have not posted about.

So far, these are all positive steps. Small changes add up to big ones. Do
one thing toward your goal. (Did you set a goal? I don't mean a weight
necessarily, but is there something you'd like to do? Fit in a movie seat?
Walk without getting out of breath? Tie your shoes? G) Do that one thing
again tomorrow. When you are ready, do more things, one at a time. This is
not a race. (thank goodness, cuz I hate competition!)

You might find it helpful to write down your reasons for wanting to change.
Then, on bad days, you can take out your list and renew your decision.

Again, this is all my opinion, offered without being asked, free to be
discarded just as easily.
--
Wendy
http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm
De-Fang email address to reply
"Geoff" wrote in message
...
"Anny Middon" wrote in message
y.com...
I've given some thought to this, Geoff, and I now believe that perhaps
Weight Watchers isn't the right diet for you. It's the right plan for
those
of us here, but I firmly beleive there is no plan that's right for
everyone.
And there are three strikes against it for you:

1. You don't want to go to meetings.

What have meetings got to do with the points method though? I'm not with
WW,
I'm using their points method because having a target to work towards is a
good idea.

2. You're not satisfied with the amount of food you can eat for your
point
target.

Of course I'm not satisfied-Who is? If I was satisfied with the amount of
food, I wouldn't be fat in the first place.

3. You're unwilling or unable to eat nearly all vegetables and fruits.

I can and do eat some fruits but I do not like vegetables and I can't help
that.

Anny, I'm doing the best I can and this is the only way I've found that
gives me any hope at all. Then I read someone tell me that it isn't the
right diet for me and it makes me feel like crying, it really does. I've
just come back from my daily walk which leaves me in one hell of a state
that most people here will never comprehend, and I read a post telling me
that I'm not doing the right thing. I am in a real state with my weight
and
finally had the guts to try something that's really hard for me, and I AM
managing, so why are people trying to put me off? You'll probably say that
you aren't trying to put me off, but it really does come across that way.

This one is a double-whammy since it means that you can't make your food
intake more satisfying by eating zero-point veggies, and you can't
regularly
meet the goal of 5 servings of fruit and vegetables per day.

I didn't know there was such a goal to be honest. I can't do anything
about
that anyway.

As an aside I'll ask: Have you considered doing Atkins or another
low-carb
approach?

I've heard too many bad things about that. It's also too restrictive.

My main advice to you though is this: You've said that you're willing
to
spend some money if necessary. In that case, I think you should consult
with a professional dietician to get a diet plan that's right for you.

What would a dietition tell me to do? He/she would list a load of things
to
eat, which would include 90% of things that I do not like. I don't want or
need to be patronised by a dietition telling me I need to lose weight, to
eat vegetables, to get exercise. I am very well aware of all that and I'm
just doing my best with these points.

Periodic revisits with the dietician will help you keep on track and
allow
for adjustment to your diet as needed.

You make it sound so simple.

Geoff.

"Fred" wrote in message
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Just one comment about "enough to eat"

That is the one thing I can say about WW. I never really did feel
that I was being starved or even, really hungry. Because the points
are generally aimed at your current weight with some reduction
obviously to have you lose weight, they tend to allow enough food.
Clearly, you were on track - when hungry you can turn to zero point
foods - that does not appear to work for you since veggies constitute
most of those zero point foods. The other thing is to find bulky low
point foods. I don't know the british system but here that would be
things like canteloup, pineapple, strawberries. You would then
allocate points during the day to allow those fruit-point items to
fill you up between meals. Or maybe more protein would satiate you
better for longer intervals.

I think Anny was only trying to point out that WW's points work great
and are simple but for them to work you need to be somewhat (not
perfectly) satisfied and for that, they have some definite suggestions
like veggies, milk, water, fruits, etc. It is NOT merely the
simplicity of points. It is a program.

Anyone who can lose weight without even feeling hungry is very lucky indeed.
With the type of food I like and don't like I'm going to find that
impossible.

I understand that WW is a program but I'm not following that, I'm following
the points system on my own and it is working for me so why not?

Geoff.

"frood" wrote in message
m...
IMNHO, WW seems to be one of the most flexible, adaptable plans around.
Just
look at the wide variety of people who post here, and there are millions
more who don't!

Hi Wendy and thanks for replying.

As someone else suggested earlier in this thread, starting one step at a
time is a good way to get going. You've already done the following:
Realized you want to make a change (this is probably the biggest, hardest
steps)
Looked at your food intake, both calorie-wise and nutrition-wise
You posted here, seeking information
You took a walk today.
I'm sure there are more things you've done that you have not posted about.

Yes I walk just about every day and have been for about 2 years now. It's
only the last few weeks I've tried dieting, although I've tried SO many
times before. 3 weeks is pretty good though for me to still be going strong.

I realised I wanted to make a change about 20 years ago by the way.

So far, these are all positive steps. Small changes add up to big ones. Do
one thing toward your goal. (Did you set a goal? I don't mean a weight
necessarily, but is there something you'd like to do? Fit in a movie seat?
Walk without getting out of breath? Tie your shoes? G) Do that one thing
again tomorrow. When you are ready, do more things, one at a time. This is
not a race. (thank goodness, cuz I hate competition!)

I don't really have a goal at the moment. I don't find long-term goals are
very helpful for me. One thing that happened a few days ago though was that
the scales we have here actually didn't say 'overload' when I stood on them!
So that was great. I don't know how much I've lost because of that
unfortunately but at least I can track it now, and I will do so on a weekly
basis.

You might find it helpful to write down your reasons for wanting to
change.
Then, on bad days, you can take out your list and renew your decision.

It's a good idea but to be honest I am very aware of it. I'm very
over-weight, so it's not just a few pounds I need to lose. My life is
totally ruled by my weight problem so the reasons for losing it are on my
mind constantly, all day every day. My weight affects just about everything
I do, or should I say don't do.

Again, this is all my opinion, offered without being asked, free to be
discarded just as easily.

No problem, and I appreciate you giving it.

Geoff.

Hello I just did some checking on where beets lay in the food
categories..........................I am very very HAPPY to report that I
found out from my Dr. that beets are in the vegie category. I am doing the
happy dance : ) LOL (Beets are my fave, I could eat them for breakfast,
lunch and supp)
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"Fred" wrote in message
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As long as we are clarifying....

Beets????

Other root "veggies?"

On Fri, 28 May 2004 19:56:52 -0400, "tulsaNgreg "
wrote:

Sweetheart.........I hate to be the one to break the news to you BUT,
potatoes are not a vegie they are a carb along with corn and peas they
are
also condidered carb/bread group. And to be eaten sparingly.
I know it sucks: )



"Geoff" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

I don't belong to Weight Watchers but my Mother does so I've got a lot
of
information from her.

2 weeks ago I started counting my points and I keep a log of it all on
my
own database. For my first 2 weeks my week total has been higher than
my
target, but considering the way I used to eat I think I'm actually
don't
quite well. Also, the daily target I've chosen is for someone weighing
less
than me, but it's the maximum that's mentioned on the chart in the WW
Handbook (which stupidly doesn't give daily points for people who are
anything more than just a bit fat!).

My main problem, as with all previous diets, is that I barely like any
food
that's good for me. That isn't by choice of course, it's just the way I
am
and I can't do anything about it. The main problem is that I don't like
vegetables. The only sort of vegetables I can eat without feeling like
I
want to be sick is potatoes (if they are a vegetables? I think they're
supposed to be).

I can eat some fruit but it seems I only like the fruit with higher
points.
The main fruit I'll eat is bananas but at 1.5 points that isn't
something
I
can eat 10 of without it affecting my diet. The problem I have is that
I
need to eat SOMEthing, and if I feel like giving up (like I do right
now)
I
need to eat a lot of it. I don't know of any zero points food that I
actually like (or can even put up with). The best I sometimes do when I
really need to eat, is to munch on Rivetas with yeast extract. Yeast
Extract
is zero points but Rivetas are still 0.5 points each. They taste like
saw-dust but I don't mind them and it's something to put in my mouth
and
take the desperate starving feeling partially away.

Has anyone got any ideas what I could munch on please that's either
zero
points of close to it, that isn't vegetables?

Thanks,
Geoff.

Sorry I wasn't intending to criticise at all, I was really trying to help.
I wish you all the best.
--
Nathalie from Belgium
134.1/95/minigoal 94.1/ Goal 68 Kg
295.6/209.5/minigoal 207.5/Goal 150 pounds
WNM: 216.3/209.5/203 lbs
98.1/95/92 kg
"Geoff" wrote in message
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"Nathalie W" wrote in message
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Hey Geoff,

I was wondering : maybe if you could tell us what you really like, or
maybe
give us an idea of how a day's menu looks like for you, we could able to
give you some suggestions ?


Hi Nathalie. Well what I used to eat is terrible things like burgers,
chips,
bread, cakes, biscuits (cookies if you're American), etc. All just bad
things like that. I do love chicken though so that's a good thing. Please
don't tell me that the things I mentioned are bad because I know all that
already.

If I told you what I ate daily at the moment everyone would have a good
laugh and lecture me on how I must change it! I know all the things that
are
bad for me and what is good for me. My original post was just for
suggestions on zero points food in the hope that someone would suggest
something I wouldn't mind eating.

The way I see it now is that I hardly like anything, but at least I am
trying my best to lose weight by eating the same old stuff every day. I
don't like veggies or sauces or anything that people are suggesting. There
have been a few suggestions I will try but nothing that involves veggies.
It's all very well for people to critisise me for that but please try to
understand that a lot of what people are writing is actually putting me
off
bothering because I'm made to feel like I HAVE to eat certain things. At
my
stage on life (I'm 35) and at my weight, if I don't do something about it
then I'll probably die before too long. That is the facts of it and I'm
not
going to pretend otherwise. So, I am doing the only thing I can in order
to
lose the weight. I cannot force myself to like food that has previously
made
me feel sick. So many posts here, even though I've said that I can't eat
vegetables, suggest all these various vegetables I should eat. Well I just
can't! Yes maybe one day I could, but right now I cannot do it. If I could
not find anything else to eat that would help me lose weight then fair
enough, I would be forced to try more things, but I am managing on the
plain
boring stuff day after day. I am sticking to my points very well (although
not perfectly) and have done so for 3 weeks now. That is not much short of
a
miracle going by my previous diet attempts. I do not feel like I am able
to
try new things. I want to but I can't bring myself to do it and the more
pressure I receive, the worse I feel because it just makes me angry that
people don't try to understand me better.

Please believe me Nathalie-There is nothing you could suggest I eat that I
would like. I was hoping at first somebody would know of the sort of food
I
like that I could munch on when I really feel hungry, but I realise now
that
such food doesn't exist. The best thing that helps me is water with ice
cubes because I like the water, it's good for me, plus I can munch on the
ice cubes when the water has all gone.

Geoff.

"Nathalie W" wrote in message
...
Sorry I wasn't intending to criticise at all, I was really trying to help.
I wish you all the best.

I no you weren't Nathalie, it's ok.

Geoff.