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I am a Nurse Practitioner in a Cardiology office and would like to recommend
this approach to some of my patients. For both weight loss and management of Diabetes. It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. I have recommended to some to purchase a book either Atkins or one of the others that are available. I'm trying not to do commercials for anybody. Atkins happen to be the one I'm most familiar with. I would like to be able to put something in their hands before they leave though. Does anyone know if there is hand out type information on the web or elsewhere that is available to get people started. Thanks John |
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"John Jessup" wrote:
I am a Nurse Practitioner in a Cardiology office and would like to recommend this approach to some of my patients. For both weight loss and management of Diabetes. It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. I have recommended to some to purchase a book either Atkins or one of the others that are available. I'm trying not to do commercials for anybody. Atkins happen to be the one I'm most familiar with. I would like to be able to put something in their hands before they leave though. Does anyone know if there is hand out type information on the web or elsewhere that is available to get people started. Thanks John I don't have any info for you, but Bless you! As far as I'm concerned, carbs are the enemy r/t Diabetes and this hasn't been directly addressed much in the medical field. I hope you come up with something that works for the office. |
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"John Jessup" writes: It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. "The Ketogenic Diet - A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner." I let one of my daughter's friend's parents borrow my copy when their kid started LC, they found it very helpful at understanding what's going on. At least get yourself a copy. http://www.ketogenic-diet.com/ Also, give them a card with this website on it: http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/results.asp That covers most of the medical and scientific stuff. PLUG You may point them at my humble little page also if you wish: http://www.delorie.com/health/ I've tried to make it short but generally useful for getting started, although it's more for detail-oriented people (lots of printable forms). /PLUG You could also print up a single page containing the web sites for the popular LC diets and such, like Atkins, SBD, protein power, etc. The ASDLC FAQ has lots of pointers. Oh, point them at that also ;-) |
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:44:05 -0500, "John Jessup"
wrote: I am a Nurse Practitioner in a Cardiology office and would like to recommend this approach to some of my patients. For both weight loss and management of Diabetes. It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. I have recommended to some to purchase a book either Atkins or one of the others that are available. I'm trying not to do commercials for anybody. Atkins happen to be the one I'm most familiar with. I would like to be able to put something in their hands before they leave though. Does anyone know if there is hand out type information on the web or elsewhere that is available to get people started. Thanks John John, first of all, what does your cardiologist that you work for suggest when implementing a diet? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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I've put together a site that discusses quite a few topics that arise a lot
on this newsgroup but don't appear in the diet doctor books. Realistic weight loss goals, assessing whether your blood sugar is heading towards diabetes, reasons for sudden weight loss or gain, what happens when you crash off the diet and how to get back on, a realistic approach for people with diabetes that helps them avoid burn out, etc. http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Hope this helps! -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/...0Diagnosed.htm "John Jessup" wrote in message ... I am a Nurse Practitioner in a Cardiology office and would like to recommend this approach to some of my patients. For both weight loss and management of Diabetes. It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. I have recommended to some to purchase a book either Atkins or one of the others that are available. I'm trying not to do commercials for anybody. Atkins happen to be the one I'm most familiar with. I would like to be able to put something in their hands before they leave though. Does anyone know if there is hand out type information on the web or elsewhere that is available to get people started. Thanks John |
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On 05 Feb 2004 15:54:52 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
"John Jessup" writes: It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. "The Ketogenic Diet - A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner." I let one of my daughter's friend's parents borrow my copy when their kid started LC, they found it very helpful at understanding what's going on. At least get yourself a copy. http://www.ketogenic-diet.com/ Also, give them a card with this website on it: http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/results.asp That covers most of the medical and scientific stuff. PLUG You may point them at my humble little page also if you wish: http://www.delorie.com/health/ I've tried to make it short but generally useful for getting started, although it's more for detail-oriented people (lots of printable forms). /PLUG You could also print up a single page containing the web sites for the popular LC diets and such, like Atkins, SBD, protein power, etc. The ASDLC FAQ has lots of pointers. Oh, point them at that also ;-) Whoa, hold on ther DJ. I know you are all "locarbied up with enthusiasm", but you could get this guy fired telling him to use ketogenic diets written by a layman. Why not let's first find out what his cardiologist is recommending before we put this poor soul on inadvertent unemployment. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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Last Shot At The Mu_n writes: Whoa, hold on ther DJ. I know you are all "locarbied up with enthusiasm", but you could get this guy fired telling him to use ketogenic diets written by a layman. Why not let's first find out what his cardiologist is recommending before we put this poor soul on inadvertent unemployment. I'm going to assume that their office will collaborate on whatever solutions he comes up with and review whatever they decide to give to patients. Not everyone is a self-centered moron. |
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Last Shot At The Mu_n wrote:
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:44:05 -0500, "John Jessup" wrote: I am a Nurse Practitioner in a Cardiology office and would like to recommend this approach to some of my patients. For both weight loss and management of Diabetes. It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. I have recommended to some to purchase a book either Atkins or one of the others that are available. I'm trying not to do commercials for anybody. Atkins happen to be the one I'm most familiar with. I would like to be able to put something in their hands before they leave though. Does anyone know if there is hand out type information on the web or elsewhere that is available to get people started. Thanks John John, first of all, what does your cardiologist that you work for suggest when implementing a diet? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. Would suggest that John do a google search of SMC for the relevant discussions about low-carbing for heart patients. Key words: (1) Hyperketonemia (2) Lipid peroxidation (3) Dr. Barry Sears FYI Note: I am aware that I am responding to a cross-posted message. Because the author of the message to which I am responding did not request that the header be trimmed, I have not trimmed it. If you are upset about reading this message, a few suggestions: (1) Yell at Mu ;-) (2) Report Mu to his ISP ;-) (3) Killfile this thread. (4) Killfile me. (5) Read about free speech. This discussion(s) is related to the 2 pound diet approach (2PD) which is described completely at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp Though Dr. Chung invented this approach, he did not initiate the Usenet discussion(s). His participation in this discussion(s) has been voluntary and has been conducted in the spirit of community service. His motivation has been entirely altruistic and has arisen from his religious beliefs as a Christian. Jesus freely gave of Himself to better the health of folks He touched: http://www.heartmdphd.com/healer.asp From the outset, it has been clear that there are those who are vehemently opposed to the 2 pound diet approach. They have debated Dr. Chung on every perceived weakness of the 2 pound diet approach and have lost the argument soundly at every point: http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtlossfaqs.asp These debates are archived on Google in their entirety within this discussion thread(s). However, instead of conceding gracefully that they've lost the argument(s), certain parties have redirected their hatred of the 2 pound diet approach toward its author. The rationale appears to be "if you can not discredit the message then try to discredit the messenger." Initially, these folks accused the messenger of "trolling." A "troll" is someone who posts under the cloak of anonymity messages with no redeeming discussion value and with the sole purpose of starting "flame" wars. These hateful folks lost credibility with this accusation when the following observations were made: (1) Dr. Chung has not been posting anonymously. (2) The 2PD has been on-topic for the Usenet discussion groups hosting the discussion(s). (a) Those who are failing low-carbing can dovetail LC with the 2PD to achieve near-ideal weight. (b) Obese diabetics improve their blood glucose control when their weight becomes near-ideal. (c) For (b) see: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V5D042C47 (3) Dr. Chung did not start the discussion(s). (4) The 2 pound diet approach is 100% free (no profit motive). (5) Dr. Chung's credentials are real and easily verified on-line (including jpegs of the actual diplomas). Full of hatred, frustration, and desperation, certain individuals have tried to attack Dr. Chung's credentials knowing full well that they were attempting to libel him. One notable example is Mr. Pastorio: http://www.heartmdphd.com/libel.asp When the full light was cast on Mr. Pastorio's libelous statements, the hateful folks hiding in the darkness of anonymity only hissed louder in support of their fallen hero. Fortunately, those who have been following this discussion(s) either actively or as lurkers can easily dismiss the hisses, for what they are, using the on-line third-party resources at: http://www.heartmdphd.com/profile.asp where Dr. Chung's credentials can be verified many times over and libelous claims that credentials were bought are easily and summarily debunked. Moreover, readers need only make the following observations concerning the anon posters who continue to hiss (ie JC Der Koenig and Mack): (1) They are anonymous and thus they expect to have no credibility (or accountability). (2) They are by their Usenet history courtesy of Google, unsavory characters. (3) They have not added anything to the discussion(s) except to deliver one-sided insults. (4) They complain about alleged cross-posts from Dr. Chung by cross-posting. (5) They do not complain about cross-posts from folks who attack the 2PD or its author. and conclude that these anon posters deserve only their kill file. It is my hope that the above brings new readers of this thread up to speed. It will remain my pleasure to continue the discussion(s) about the 2PD above the din of hissing from the peanut gallery. Servant to the humblest person in the universe, Andrew -- Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist http://www.heartmdphd.com/ -- Who is the humblest person in the universe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?L21532147 |
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On 05 Feb 2004 16:29:34 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
I'm going to assume that their office will collaborate on whatever solutions he comes up with and review whatever they decide to give to patients. You can assume what you want, in your craze to promote low carb, but when you interject your ideologies directly into a cardiologists' office, without knowing whether or not that is acceptable much less ethical, not asking that question first is absurd. You're a laymen. Lay there. Not everyone is a self-centered moron. Not everyone with lowcarbitis responded so hastily, without thinking first, as you just did. This isn't "play time" on Usenet this instance. This is real time introduction of potentially harmful information by folks who have no credentials or qualifications to do so. And that specifically is aimed right at you, DJ. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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On 05 Feb 2004 15:54:52 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote:
"John Jessup" writes: It would be helpful to have some written information to give them while they are here. "The Ketogenic Diet - A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner." I let one of my daughter's friend's parents borrow my copy when their kid started LC, they found it very helpful at understanding what's going on. At least get yourself a copy. http://www.ketogenic-diet.com/ Also, give them a card with this website on it: http://www.lowcarbresearch.org/lcr/results.asp That covers most of the medical and scientific stuff. PLUG You may point them at my humble little page also if you wish: http://www.delorie.com/health/ I've tried to make it short but generally useful for getting started, although it's more for detail-oriented people (lots of printable forms). /PLUG You could also print up a single page containing the web sites for the popular LC diets and such, like Atkins, SBD, protein power, etc. The ASDLC FAQ has lots of pointers. Oh, point them at that also ;-) Whoa, hold on ther DJ. I know you are all "locarbied up with enthusiasm", but you could get this guy fired telling him to use ketogenic diets written by a layman. Why not let's first find out what his cardiologist is recommending before we put this poor soul on inadvertent unemployment. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap950909.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. |
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