Back and question

I've been here before, about this time last year, but under a different
name. I found this group very helpful, so after a very tough personal
time, I'm back and right on track continuing my weight loss. Last year I
was pretty succesful, lost 10lb altogether, but gained it right back
during all the stress.

So here's my question: what is it with my abs that they refuse to
cooperate? I'm not aiming for six-packs, that will never happen, but in
spite of low-fat diet, regular exercise for well over 2 months now, the
fat in my abs area is not budging. I've lost maybe one inch, no more. I do
pilates 3 times a week, cardio and weights 2 times a week, and eat no more
than 2000 cals (no lo-carb, that's not an option for me, just medium
carbing...). I know this is the most difficult area to loose fat, but is
it really *that* hard?

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--Boemsi
207 - 197 - 180

If I can 'jump' inhere, I'm just wanting a little 'menu' of what a day
of low carbing would mean. I know low carb except I'm not sure if I'm
comletely informed with this.
glo

If I can 'jump' inhere, I'm just wanting a little 'menu' of what a day
of low carbing would mean. I know low carb except I'm not sure if I'm
comletely informed with this.
glo

Thanks i for info . I'm doing okay except tat I'm gaining this 5 or 6
lbs and than losing it over & over again. I'm kind of doing a low carb
patern MOST of the time and your menu is 'interesting ' except that I
eat a small amount of meat and no pork but it is only for health
reasons. IBS is my ever present problem.
Anyway, I appreciate the 'feed back' as I keep trying to add to my low
carb eating plan.

glo

Thanks i for info . I'm doing okay except tat I'm gaining this 5 or 6
lbs and than losing it over & over again. I'm kind of doing a low carb
patern MOST of the time and your menu is 'interesting ' except that I
eat a small amount of meat and no pork but it is only for health
reasons. IBS is my ever present problem.
Anyway, I appreciate the 'feed back' as I keep trying to add to my low
carb eating plan.

glo

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:26:26 +0000, Ignoramus29819 wrote:

how tall are you?

I'm about 5'11", my BMI is just above 27.

Assuming some normal height and muscularity, at 197 lbs, you can
hardly expect to have flat abs. Flat abs show when fat, covering
them, becomes thin, which could only come with general fat loss.

I don't believe for a second that I would ever have a flat stomach, and I
don't really care for it either. Just a few inches of my hips, so I can
fit in a smaller clothes size again. In spite of losing 10lb, I haven't
dropped a single size because my hip/abs region don't budge...

Why is low carb not an option for you?

I've tried and got so fed up with the limitations that I gave up after two
weeks. The results I got simply were not worth the effort, I could never
make it a lifestyle. Besides, I don't believe in it.

I was eating too much carbs, that's for sure, so this time I minimized my
carbs to a level I feel comfortable with, and it works. I also pay
attention to GI, avoiding foods with high GI and making sure I get loads
of fiber.

FYI, here is a typical day:
breakfast: non-fat yogurt with 0.5 cup Kashi GoLean, cup of juice
snack : apple
lunch : zucchini and mushrooms with gorgonzola, pasta, diet coke
snack : non-fat yoghurt with fruit
dinner : black bean chili (vegetarian), non-fat sour cream, cheese
desert : none, twice a week I allow a scoop of regular ice cream

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-- Boemsi
207 - 197 - 180

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:26:26 +0000, Ignoramus29819 wrote:

how tall are you?

I'm about 5'11", my BMI is just above 27.

Assuming some normal height and muscularity, at 197 lbs, you can
hardly expect to have flat abs. Flat abs show when fat, covering
them, becomes thin, which could only come with general fat loss.

I don't believe for a second that I would ever have a flat stomach, and I
don't really care for it either. Just a few inches of my hips, so I can
fit in a smaller clothes size again. In spite of losing 10lb, I haven't
dropped a single size because my hip/abs region don't budge...

Why is low carb not an option for you?

I've tried and got so fed up with the limitations that I gave up after two
weeks. The results I got simply were not worth the effort, I could never
make it a lifestyle. Besides, I don't believe in it.

I was eating too much carbs, that's for sure, so this time I minimized my
carbs to a level I feel comfortable with, and it works. I also pay
attention to GI, avoiding foods with high GI and making sure I get loads
of fiber.

FYI, here is a typical day:
breakfast: non-fat yogurt with 0.5 cup Kashi GoLean, cup of juice
snack : apple
lunch : zucchini and mushrooms with gorgonzola, pasta, diet coke
snack : non-fat yoghurt with fruit
dinner : black bean chili (vegetarian), non-fat sour cream, cheese
desert : none, twice a week I allow a scoop of regular ice cream

--
-- Boemsi
207 - 197 - 180

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:14:00 +0000, Ignoramus5937 wrote:

I am also 5'11", my BMI is 24.0, I weight 172.8 lbs and while my
stomach is relatively flat, there is still a bit of spare tire and my
abs are not at all ripped.

If I could reach that point, I'd be very happy. Good for you!

Are you a vegetarian? How much protein do you get per day? Do you feel
excessively hungry?

No, I'm not vegetarian, but I do limit my intake of animal protein. I just
don't like meat too much. Fish is another matter, but my partner is
allergic to that, so we hardly eat it. I usually get at least 60g protein
during a day, but hardly more than 100g. I'm not at all excessively
hungry, rather the contrary.

Anyway, 10 lbs lost is not that much, so, as you lose weight further,
you would see your clothes size drop. How do you exercise?

Twice a week I do elliptical for 30 minutes, one day in combination with
weights for the upper body muscles, the other day with low impact biking
for fat burn. Three times I week I do Pilates for the core and lower body
muscles. I do notice that I have gained a lot of strength over the last
months, and muscle tone is much better. Now I'm slowly moving more towards
fat burn rather than muscle building.

Guess I need to be patient... Thanks for all the help!

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-- Boemsi
207 - ... - 180

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:03:19 -0400, (Gloria) wrote:

Thanks i for info . I'm doing okay except tat I'm gaining this 5 or 6
lbs and than losing it over & over again. I'm kind of doing a low carb
patern MOST of the time and your menu is 'interesting ' except that I
eat a small amount of meat and no pork but it is only for health
reasons. IBS is my ever present problem.
Anyway, I appreciate the 'feed back' as I keep trying to add to my low
carb eating plan.

glo

Glad to know you're still here on asd glo, even if we haven't seen you
post much lately. I know all there is to know about gaining and
losing the same few pounds, I've done it often enough. Then something
happens and I just take off and stick with my WOE for weeks, until the
next time. I hope you are coming to a WOE that you can stick with
too.

janice
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"Ignoramus5937" wrote in message
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Boemsi,

I would keep doing what you are doing, but add strength training, find
a way to eat more protein -- you eat pretty low -- and be
patient. Maybe you can use whey protein of some sort, it tastes like
condensed milk when you dissolve it. Myself, I like meat, but there
are healthy sources of protein other than meat, like eggs, whey
protein, etc.

i

And tofu!

Jenn